Which fan would you have?

[Ca++]

I was thinking this kind of package. They come in all sizes. On the deck, face up. I would like fresh air to come in, and do a few donuts, before passing through. If I feed in fresh above the fan, it could take that, along with air from the tent, and help mix them.

I have the 6" core, left from an AC to EC conversion. I just don't want AC anymore though. It's variacs and humming, just seem unnecessary. I'm buying German now.

 

[Ca++]

Need to check my order, as I don't remember ordering the oscillating one.
Low vibration
Either 45 or 90 degrees of turn, by just tapping the switch again. You can turn it by hand when not in swivel mode. Taking away that age old job of stopping them just where you want them. However, I can hear the pinion isn't the biggest. I may force it fast later, to see if there is a clutch, or a snapping sound as my mood drops.
I set it to speed 3 (of 10) and gave it a double tap for auto speed increments. It went speed 3, speed 2, speed 1. Speed 2, speed 3, then back to 2. Showing me I can choose any maximum speed, and have to step down from there to 1, and back up again.
After power failure, it comes back on.
usb for the controller.

On them first few power settings, it's running lower than a typical 2 or 3 speed. On full it blows well. Nothing outstanding, but the lower noise on lower settings is useful, and the low vibration on all settings is useful to.

What I don't like is the clip. It's only for poles.

 

[944s2]

Just a thought Ca++,,,
imho Honeywell are a very good make,,,
only replaced mine after 6yrs or so,,,,
it performed so well when constantly on for months at time,,,,,

 

[Ca++]

Yes, the Honeywell, Dimplex and Expelair fans all seem related. It just seems to be floor one's I come across, but all have lasted a while. They have all been a bit loud and over-performing for their size to. I have not put them in strange positions, to really see how they will last.

Most fans used as designed, will last alright. The oscillating one's are the only ones to self destruct, and it doesn't seem to matter who's. It's clip fans where we see the most problems. As rarely as they used as designed. They appear to be suited to any angle, but actually need to be as a level as a typical desk or floor fan. That is why the move to BBs is important for these. Nobody is bothering with stand and desk fans yet, as they don't need BBs. Though the desk fans with wall mount, really could benefit from them. It's the odd things we do with clip fans, that make them need the bearings that can be used at any angle, and there high temperature credentials matter to, for HID users. For me it's also about the noise, and particularly the mechanical humming the police tell people to listen for.


I don't think the public are ready for these yet. They are going to keep buying the £15 one every year, and just see a few more speed settings as unimportant. Some people have these, but it is mostly people buying into the full ecosystem. Lights and everything, to a main controller. Then the US people are less phased by the £37 price tag, and tbh, the US do tend to buy the most expensive and presume their must be a reason. Here at £65, I can see why people would pay £15 regularly. The hope of finding one that works, won't fade. It's like air pumps. Everyone sells a few models, just to keep selling you another. Never giving you your forever pump. It's not in their interest.
I could do a good price, but still I just don't see people reading the box, and understanding what they are looking at.

 

[beethoven]

I'm growing one or two plants at a time, no need for movement.(oscillation) I've also had reliability issues with oscillating fans, they can fail or become noisy...Not good for being discrete.

 

[Ca++]

The sample took about a week before it started to click at one end of it's travel. I was a little surprised as it's an entirely different design. Using a separate motor, and some means of having the arc at 45 or 90, electronically. A click is a click though.

I actually like it. It's cumbersome of course. Taking up far too much space to easily be used below the canopy. However it's coverage is good.

I'm back to ordering the P14. Cheaper, quieter, and still need turning down. They fit in more places, wire in groups, and are only 12vdc.

What keeps coming to mind, is how to make the P14 PC case fan, oscillate. I feel sure a 3D printed solution is being developed by someone. I'm held back by the fan being so good, it's only 1.3w and so compact. How do I compete with that. Not too big.. not too powerful.. too noisy.. and last 10 years. I might need a pencil.

 

[TheGhostoftheNorthside]

25 yrs of indoor only missed 1 run..the osculating ones break faster alot faster. Click click click

 

[TheGhostoftheNorthside]

Vornado or clip on fans for tentpoles for huts

 

[beethoven]

25 yrs of indoor only missed 1 run..the osculating ones break faster alot faster. Click click click

Yes ! the click click click sound, I know it too well....

 

[Ca++]

It's odd how they click. That the gears would rather cam out, then drive the oscillation. Perhaps it's a lube problem, as I don't recall seeing any.

The cheap clip fans are the opposite, and their heads sink because of the greasy plastics used in the brackets. Simply fixed with a paper washer.

They really are rubbish. Designed to last the few months of summer, and no more. Fan heaters follow a similar path.

 

[Gry]

I like the tall thin fans, I stick two of them in the tent one across from the other, left on
a low setting, they do a nice a job of keeping things moving.

 

[Ca++]

I like the tall thin fans, I stick two of them in the tent one across from the other, left on
a low setting, they do a nice a job of keeping things moving.

I just seem to find those with a single fan, that looks like a lawn mower. One that's never well balanced. If I ever get chance, I would like to rebuild one with a number of case fans. Keeping just the rotation mechanism.
I'm surprised we don't see more of them, but perhaps I'm not alone with these noise concerns

 

[leprechaunleaf]

All of the oscillating fans I've tried have failed over time. I've decided to stick with a standard fan. My space is small enough that a single fan without oscillation can do the job.

 

[Ca++]

While maneuvering, I held the fan such that it would blow up n down, rather than side to side. Instant fail. Didn't even try to lift it's own weight. Just made the noise of gears camming out.