Which cross sounds better?

[Guest]

I am deticating my winter (when conditions here are optimal) grows to some f2's and other crosses for the next few years. These beans will be organic and serve many puposes, mainly to get some good genetics going around my area, but some will go out to close/distant friends too, as well as some stashed away.

I have only been growing for a few years, but as I learned with growing, experience beats anything you'll ever read... so I have decided to make some beans, properly at that (I research everything I attempt as much as I can). I don't calim to be a professional or take any credit for any of these genetics, I am working with class A genetics basically done for me, however I can still spread the love around... right?

Right now I am just circulating ideas.....

With my space I can only do one at a time without having things get out of hand so my question is which cross sounds most interesting for this winter. These are the strains I am definatley going to do, so pick one of the above, thanks.

Strawberry D X DJ Short True Blueberry (Berry Diesel)


OR?

Strawberry D X BOG Super Sweet Cindy05 (Sweet Strawberry Diesel)

^ Or vise versa


I can't decide but these two are what it comes down to... if you don't post at least vote!

 

[masterlow37]

Blueberry Cough

Blueberry Cough

I'm no breeder, yet i would imagine the Bog cross w/SC would produce a wider range (variety) of offspring

 

[Guest]

I'm no breeder, yet i would imagine the Bog cross w/SC would produce a wider range (variety) of offspring

^ Yep. Something I was thinking about, thanks for the input. Sorry Lucky 7 , I too love the c99, but popularity wins... so hopefully it will get a few more votes....

Wow thank you guys so much for all the votes! I have a few people really wanting the super weet cross, but obviously right now there is more interest in working with the blueberry, but we will see at the end of poll date! I'll probably make a few plants full of seeds, and send a few into seedbay for anyone that is interested.

I think i have most of my 'tester' growers lines up to do a diary, unfortunatley they will be getting their seeds when everyone can too, so who knows what these beans will bring... they will be very very cheap don't worry.

Only reason they won't be freebies is I only want people who are actually interested in growing them to recieve them, not just anyone... maybe they should be a 'request' only freebie?

 

[morganlefay]

Sweet Berry sounds the tastiest.

peace

 

[HawGods]

bog...still doing his thing...??

 

[Alex-F]

Crossing stuff to the Blueberry just opens so many doors.

 

[Guest]

I like Berry Diesel, sounds nice.

Good luck!

 

[Jack Crevalle]

Bump the berry diesel, strawberry blueberry mmmm

 

[Johnny Chimpo]

Crossing stuff to the Blueberry just opens so many doors.

 

[Bacchus]

Are you working with clones only? If not use the same male on both lines.

 

[Guest]

The results are as I expected. Strawberry D X True Blue Berry should open up all kinds of shit. If I was a breeder I would explore and stabilize, but unfortunatley I am not.

The sweet cindy was a recent pack I won on seedbay, so no, BOG isn't back or anything don't get exited now!

As far as how I am doing this, it won't involve any clones. Pollen will be taken from the 4 best males out of 15 Strawberry Diesel beans (or up to five, in case there is more or less than 4, I guess). Then out of one pack of True Blueberry (10 seeds), ALL females will be pollinated, so the # of beans I end up with is really hard to say.Doing it this way ENSURES all phenos will come through.

On that note I am not going to use only the best male (bottlenecking I think is the breeder term...?..? not sure) for two reasons, as I have come to understand it, but I am trying to learn very basic stuff for my first run, so these could be off...

1. The main purpose of using only one male is because you want traits to be passed on. This is also for people who want to work with multiple generations to essentially have a P1, or a whole new stabilized breed or what not...but basically, if you want to actually WORK with the strain for years on end to produce a fatass strain would be a reason for doing it this way... which brings me to my next point...

2. If I only used one male, only some traits would be passed on, therefore you would cut down the different phenos that come about, which is good if that is what your looking for (above post) but I want ALL pheno's of this hybrid to be found in these beans.

Packs will be made in quantities of 15-20 (to ensure a winner in each pack) for around.. lol... $5.00? I just want poeple who WANT to grow them have them. They might be a request only freebie I dunno, not really looking to go into that until the time comes.

My test growers have all promised me a cut of their best pheno that comes out of this (my only request from them), out of those I will choose one and maybe, just MAYBE in the near future (if there is interest, and if I find some more time) there might be a more stabilized, uber tasty , Berry Diesel available to all.

How about some home grown eye candy for the hell of it?

1.5 month old Sour D IBL 16 days flowering:



2 month old NYCD, trained 16 days flowering:

 

[Guest]

Bump.

I'm going to shoot for 75 votes

Vote dammit.

 

[milo_xxx]

Damn. I was hoping the sweet cindy would be the best. I have grown so many blueberry. but not any cindy
but I have not grown any Strawberry Diesel either.
but anyway, I will definately be picking up a pack when they are released.

I like your style of breeding,

Doing it this way ENSURES all phenos will come through

what about breeding the Strawberry Diesel females with the True Blueberry males? lol.

keep up the good work!!

peace

 

[Americangrower]

Wheres the Straw D x Straw D choice???

I would use the blueberry for breeding as it is a proven winner. The problem is all 3 strains already carry hermie traits.. even Rez's picture of Straw D (back when they were available)had a nanna, thats why I bought the Lisa Marie.

But WTF go for it, you could find that next elite mom..

I went with Sour D in my crosses..got 4 Sour D(female) x C99 (male) 1st 12/12 night

Ran out of veg room for them

 

[aeric]

I voted true blue, but there are some undesirable recessive traits to weed out. I would open pollenate both sides of the cross and select parents from that larger population, possibly even get some more seeds from the seedbank. It's more work and more time but you could be kicking yourself for not doing it later when your one or few males don't work out, since you already seem willing to spend some time on them might as well do them right. With plenty of light and a soiless medium in veg you could push out each generation pretty quickly. Soil will slow you down cumulatively.

 

[Guest]

Let me give a few quick replies...:

I voted true blue, but there are some undesirable recessive traits to weed out. I would open pollenate both sides of the cross and select parents from that larger population, possibly even get some more seeds from the seedbank. It's more work and more time but you could be kicking yourself for not doing it later when your one or few males don't work out, since you already seem willing to spend some time on them might as well do them right. With plenty of light and a soiless medium in veg you could push out each generation pretty quickly. Soil will slow you down cumulatively.

Yes, there will be many so-so pheno's along with the good pheno's. I only grow soil so yes time is an issue here, but most importantley I am not a breeder. Not even close. Think of someone just letting their males stay in their garden and popping out beans for the hell of it. Kind of what I am doing here, just a a slightly more 'informed' way....

If I spend more than a year studying breeding a bit more and working with a strain, bet your ass that a pack will NOT be 5$, therefore I think it is best done the most simple way. You may have to plant more beans to find a more stable, killer pheno- but they will basically be free #1, and #2 your getting 15-20 seeds per pack to find her.

If someone wants to take on stabilizing it and working with it further have at it, but I am looking for only 1 killer pheno, blueberry dominant.

Wheres the Straw D x Straw D choice???

Oh yes, along with Berry Diesel packs, there will also be packs of Strawberry D f2's. I think someone is already posting some on seedbay but I will have a few hundred, so we will see. That is one reason why I am using the Strawberry D as the males in the breeding, for f2's. I am using the blueberry as a mom because I am hoping the female pheno's will be slighty blueberry dominant, with undertones of strawberry and disesel, but there is no telling how many different pheno's might pop up!

Also, nice fucking pictures bro! Some sour diesel x c99 sounds like a superb sativa smoke (have you had any yet?)! Whose c99 did you end up using? You don't happen to need any 'test' gorwers eh?

Damn. I was hoping the sweet cindy would be the best. I have grown so many blueberry. but not any cindy

Well, this is still in debate, but I am thinking a few packs of BOGc99XStrawD might be in order. VERY few will be made if any at all though, they will also be listed. My foucs will be the other cross. I am hoping to get an original Grimm Bro c99 clone by next winter and cross with that. Glad to know your going to try a pack, I know you'll definatley be getting your 5-10 (not sure what minimum is) dollars worth + a whole lot more.


Like I said the MAIN purpose of this project if to get decent bud going around here, thanks for all your guys's input!