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WHICH 1 IS A WINNER
- Thread starter CAVOSZIA1
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Ease up on multiple threads about your prospective order please.
All the ones you list are excellent and all very much different, your all over the map in all catagories.
For your first grow with quality genetics any one of them will kick your ass but also being a first grow, you could just as likely scrap the whole run for one reason or another.
Starting in hydro and going to soil is ass backwards as far as ease of grow and experience needed. You should look hard at soil before you get knee deep in hydro with $100 genetics.
What kind of hydro setup?
My suggestion would probably be to get AK-48, Cindy99, and K2 from Nirvana and get to gettin or maybe bagseed
Basic Diesel - sativa dom
LUI - Indica dom
Wonder99- hybrid
C99 - Sat dom most of the time I think
Tex
All the ones you list are excellent and all very much different, your all over the map in all catagories.
For your first grow with quality genetics any one of them will kick your ass but also being a first grow, you could just as likely scrap the whole run for one reason or another.
Starting in hydro and going to soil is ass backwards as far as ease of grow and experience needed. You should look hard at soil before you get knee deep in hydro with $100 genetics.
What kind of hydro setup?
My suggestion would probably be to get AK-48, Cindy99, and K2 from Nirvana and get to gettin or maybe bagseed
Basic Diesel - sativa dom
LUI - Indica dom
Wonder99- hybrid
C99 - Sat dom most of the time I think
Tex
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basic diesel... will yeild insane... and be potent as hell i'd think.. c99 and wonder 99 would both be potent as hell... wonder 99 yeilding more... c99 being much stronger to the sativa side... c99 is primarily sativa...lui has sweet tooth in it i think?/// dont rememebr the other part... tex was right... imo go with c99 you can get gypsy's f2's... ak 48 =ak47 f2....k2 being a relative of the white widow... gso go with those 3... one being indica... one sativa... and one being like one hit shit more sat than indica... but a good inbetween..
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sounds like you need Nirvana! NL, white widow, or white rhino, or aurora indica will do all that for cheap bro
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NL5xBigBud. Easy for growing, decent yeild and potency. Not sure what Gypsy charges for em. A bargain at whatever the price. LOL Seedbay addict here. Or ya could go there, read all the strains and descriptions get a good handle on what you think will work for you. And who knows, ya may settle for TRC Gold Monkey. Think the opening bid is 90.00 Point being there are a lot of choices out there, and we can't say for certain what will work best in yours. That's pretty much your decision to make. If the above choices in the poll are the ones ya want, pick one and grow with it. Any of em would be good if ya can grow em good. Have fun and good luck.
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It's a weed, no harder or easier to from strain to strain. Some like different amounts and frequencies of ferts but for the most part it just grows.
2+ a plant, I assume is 2 o's and you can hit that and way better depending on your setup, size of plant, and skill level.
SOG style clones grown from a mother plant? or Just let the seedling grow and flower un-topped? you mean fill a 2x2 or a 4x4 table full of clones?
You are askin the wrong questions, start with the growin side and forget about all the little details of one strain over another.
How are you going to grow the strain? (good place to start)
Hydro or soil? if hydro, what style and size. if soil, are goin to use a premix or prep the soil using BOG's recipe or similar for soil?
What nutreints are ya thinkin about? organic or chemical or somewhere in between?
Is this a closet grow, if so what kind of setup(lights, fans, vents'etc.. what size light(most quick bigger yields are going to require 400+ watt light or better, minimum)
What went wrong in your previous grows? have you corrected or read up on the cause of the poor results?
You can look up strain info until your blue in the face but if you kill the seedlings or have poor results from lack of growing skills it doesn't matter what you buy. Again I would stay cheap until ya get a successful grow out of the way.
Tex
2+ a plant, I assume is 2 o's and you can hit that and way better depending on your setup, size of plant, and skill level.
SOG style clones grown from a mother plant? or Just let the seedling grow and flower un-topped? you mean fill a 2x2 or a 4x4 table full of clones?
You are askin the wrong questions, start with the growin side and forget about all the little details of one strain over another.
How are you going to grow the strain? (good place to start)
Hydro or soil? if hydro, what style and size. if soil, are goin to use a premix or prep the soil using BOG's recipe or similar for soil?
What nutreints are ya thinkin about? organic or chemical or somewhere in between?
Is this a closet grow, if so what kind of setup(lights, fans, vents'etc.. what size light(most quick bigger yields are going to require 400+ watt light or better, minimum)
What went wrong in your previous grows? have you corrected or read up on the cause of the poor results?
You can look up strain info until your blue in the face but if you kill the seedlings or have poor results from lack of growing skills it doesn't matter what you buy. Again I would stay cheap until ya get a successful grow out of the way.
Tex
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They are all winners.
They are all winners.
Yeah man TK said it. Lots of variety there in plant type (amongst the strains)and phenotype (within the strains as most are hybrids) and quality of high (none are weak but will produce a variety of different effects from a narcotic to a stimulant to a trippy spacy kinda fuzzy feeling). Do you want to hit the golf ball, be the golf ball, fantasize about the golf ball or watch the people on TV hit the golf ball while you sit on the couch? This is what you need to ask yourself....What Do I Really Want My Weed to BE....decide that and get back to us.
They are all winners.
Yeah man TK said it. Lots of variety there in plant type (amongst the strains)and phenotype (within the strains as most are hybrids) and quality of high (none are weak but will produce a variety of different effects from a narcotic to a stimulant to a trippy spacy kinda fuzzy feeling). Do you want to hit the golf ball, be the golf ball, fantasize about the golf ball or watch the people on TV hit the golf ball while you sit on the couch? This is what you need to ask yourself....What Do I Really Want My Weed to BE....decide that and get back to us.
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Once you get your systen and the strain dialed in, then you may see 2lbs. a light.
Where did that number come from anyways? I think bucket grows are the only ones pulling that kind of wieght because that some hard shit when rapid running clones in a sog setup.
What kind of plant count? how long in veg before ya flip the lights? is that (1) 1000w bulb over each 4x4 table basically? You may look at just 2 lights on a light mover to cut expense and heat.
My 4x4's will hold 32 - 5.25" pots when completely full to the max(sog style) but the yeild is less than when I run 20-25 pots on the same 4x4 table. Even if you pulled an once to once and a half off each plant it's close to the 2 lbs. but tough to do. If you veg and prune for an extended time you can double that output easily and that is still with the 20+ plants not the 32. 32 pots in there just doesn't work that well in real life. Smaller plants maybe but once they start to kick they kick and take up alot of canopy space.
Basic Wonder just hit the the growers hands in the last couple of months, consequently there are not finished grow reports and feedback accumulated yet. I bet there is plenty in 90 days or so though
There is a Petrol grow thread in Rez's forum
Tex
Where did that number come from anyways? I think bucket grows are the only ones pulling that kind of wieght because that some hard shit when rapid running clones in a sog setup.
What kind of plant count? how long in veg before ya flip the lights? is that (1) 1000w bulb over each 4x4 table basically? You may look at just 2 lights on a light mover to cut expense and heat.
My 4x4's will hold 32 - 5.25" pots when completely full to the max(sog style) but the yeild is less than when I run 20-25 pots on the same 4x4 table. Even if you pulled an once to once and a half off each plant it's close to the 2 lbs. but tough to do. If you veg and prune for an extended time you can double that output easily and that is still with the 20+ plants not the 32. 32 pots in there just doesn't work that well in real life. Smaller plants maybe but once they start to kick they kick and take up alot of canopy space.
Basic Wonder just hit the the growers hands in the last couple of months, consequently there are not finished grow reports and feedback accumulated yet. I bet there is plenty in 90 days or so though
There is a Petrol grow thread in Rez's forum
Tex
DankBank
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CAVOSZIA1 said:
AN is a great product. It's also extremely complicated for a first, second, or third show grower. I know people who've been trying to dial the 2+ program in for over a year, and still don't feel they're where they want to be. Many dead plants in the process of getting there. I admire your courage, but you're getting in way over your head.
Try using some 400 watters for those tables. You're going overkill with 3000 watts in my opinion (although I don't grow tables.. just a few plants in dirt for this here guy).
I have (and have used) over 10 different AN products.
Carboload
Sensizym
Big Bud
Overdrive
Pirhana Powder
Tarantula
the list goes on... can't remember them all.
When I used the full 2+ program I mixed a little too hot and killed 1/2 my plants the first time I did it (this is devastating when you only have 6 plants to begin with!!)
Seriously... slow down and start a little easier. Try a simple 2 part nute program before getting into the 2+.
Last advice - if you ignore what I said AT LEAST mix the AN at no more than 2/3 recommended strength. The directions get you to PPM levels far beyond what they predict. I think they want you to use up the product fast & buy more, so the dial you in with huge strengths. Also I should mention that after abandoning the 2+ program and just using a FEW AN products (very sparingly) I got much better results.
Good luck,
DB
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Petrol's not available.
Basic Diesel's an indi-sat hybrid (M39 x Sour Diesel) it'll be more potent than LUI,and the yields should be equitable.
Wonder99's an indi-sat hybrid (C99 x William's Wonder) and probably won't yield quite as close to LUI as BD will,but will easily surpass LUI in potencey.
(Don't get me wrong,LUI's got a single,great (imo) pheno,(The 'Ortega' pheno) but finding it is another story....)
I wouldn't waste my time or money on AN nutes,imo a TOTAL waste....
Thassall,for now.
Ciao!
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Basic Diesel's an indi-sat hybrid (M39 x Sour Diesel) it'll be more potent than LUI,and the yields should be equitable.
Wonder99's an indi-sat hybrid (C99 x William's Wonder) and probably won't yield quite as close to LUI as BD will,but will easily surpass LUI in potencey.
(Don't get me wrong,LUI's got a single,great (imo) pheno,(The 'Ortega' pheno) but finding it is another story....)
I wouldn't waste my time or money on AN nutes,imo a TOTAL waste....
Thassall,for now.
Ciao!
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well i am hard headed so ill be sticking w/ the 3 1000 w lights, between the 4' x 8' and the 4' x 4' there will be 45 plants i will flip em at 9" too 10" i am really shooting for 5 p's between the 3 lights and i am pretty sure im goin 4 the basic diesel any pure sour diesel around REZDOG
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Here is some Sour D listings as well other Rez stock that is currently available
http://www.seedbay.com/browse.php?id=19
5 lbs from 45 Sour D plants flippin at 10"-12" that is a lofty goal for sure, it will probably be closer to 2.5 to 3 lbs dried and that's after you get your system and the strain dialed in.
If your taking 45 clones from a select mother of Sour D or Basic D, your at least three to four months out before you flower the first clone. For 45 at once you probably want two or three mothers to get all the 45 cuts all at once.
Good growin
Tex
http://www.seedbay.com/browse.php?id=19
5 lbs from 45 Sour D plants flippin at 10"-12" that is a lofty goal for sure, it will probably be closer to 2.5 to 3 lbs dried and that's after you get your system and the strain dialed in.
If your taking 45 clones from a select mother of Sour D or Basic D, your at least three to four months out before you flower the first clone. For 45 at once you probably want two or three mothers to get all the 45 cuts all at once.
Good growin
Tex
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ya im with Tex on this get ur self some $20 genetics from nirvana... White Rhino or ICE or AK48 IMO.
Janis Joplin
New member
Does Sour D have that distinctive Pine Sol aroma? Seems like most of the great indica dominant strains I grow have a variation of that same smell when cured. Or could it be the dead skunk? Where is that damn Texas Kid when you need him?
