Where to take a cutting for cloning

[Core]

i use a techniek that i learnd from jorges caventes....its fullproof...imo

cut clone at the bottom of the plant...the higher you cut of the plant the longer it wil take to root...cut clones with minimum 1 set of leaves....when you did cut the clone with at least 1 set of leaves....take the stem...cut it for 1 a 1.5 cm in the middle....wet the stem where you did cut....and put it in rootpowder.....take you pot with soil and plant it .....
water it with 3/4 full strenght of rootjuice.......after dryup....then start feedingscedule..

100% survival rate untill now and i knew jack about cloning....


i have to say there are many goog methodes..this is just my M.O.

 

[Guest]

Budleydoright check out the NPK of Olivias products,cloning solution and gel.The cloning solution is .06-.13-.07 and the cloning gel is .08-.13-.07.As you can see the phosphorous is doubles in both products,the reason being this is what the cuttings are lacking.A heavy dose of tiger bloom before taking cuttings definately increases you chances of healthy cuttings,not just rooted cuttings.You can root them in plain water with no phosphorus before during or after,but I like to have healthy cuttings from the start.

I remember this discussion on overgrow and the olivias argument....

http://www.4hydroponics.com/nutrients/thrivealivered.asp

Here is a product I use.... The red formula has a rooting hormone(Thrive Alive B1 Red Label - fortified with alpha-naphthalene acetic acid) and the npk is 1-1-1.5

so it doesnt have 2 times more P....


NPK: 1-1-1.5

Thrive Alive Red is ideal for both hydroponic and soil applications facilitating vigorous and healthy root development for both cuttings and established root systems. Presoak rooting medium with Thrive Alive Red to reduce transplant shock.

Thrive Alive B-1 Red, from Technaflora, is highly effective, safe, affordable, and easy-to-use organic all-purpose plant tonic. It stimulates rapid and lush vegetative growth. The professionally balanced formulation contains vitamins, hormones, macro and micro nutrients cultured in premium quality organic British Columbian sea kelp.

 

[Guest]

Hey bro,I dont remember any literature on the subject but man if I depended on it being written in stone,I'd have missed out on a lot of good info.I just learned it from some of the older growers on OG when I first joined.Thrive alive is not just a cloning product,its for veg growth and transplants also,Olivia's is strictly for cloning.I am curious now as to the NPK of other cloning gels and powders,post them here folks

 

[jcsmooth]

I just checked my cloning gel, but it didn't specify n-p-k values/ratios
I use Wilson's liquid root stimulator w/ fungicide. You can buy it at pretty much any Canadian Tire in....well....Canada. Always had great success with it. The only information they have on the bottle is that this is guaranteed:
Indole butric acid 0.4%
5-ethoxy-2-trichloromethyl-1,2,4-thiadiazole 0.01%

I think that pretty much clarifies EVERYTHING

I think I'll buy a bottle of Thrive Alive instead of Superthrive next time around. I've seen some strange growth my superthrive when I used a bit too much of it. It makes roots explode though along with easing shock...it's just so strong.

JC

 

[Dan42nepa]

i used shultz take root... no NPK rating either.. but its day 3 and no wilting or yellowing of leaves for 12 cuttings.

 

[Dan42nepa]

i used shultz take root... no NPK rating either.. but its day 3 and no wilting or yellowing of leaves for 12 cuttings.

BTW i am using budleys cloning method.. (bottled water ice cube tray)

 

[Guest]

I guess only some rooting hormones contain NPK ratings

 

[Mad Scientist]

cut clone at the bottom of the plant...the higher you cut of the plant the longer it wil take to root...

If you need more cuttings than the lower branches of your moms can provide, you can also try to girdle the main stem. This will cause auxine levels to rise in the upper part of the plant, making the cuttings taken from this part root more quickly.

 

[jcsmooth]

If you need more cuttings than the lower branches of your moms can provide, you can also try to girdle the main stem. This will cause auxine levels to rise in the upper part of the plant, making the cuttings taken from this part root more quickly.

Can you explain girdle? Do you actually mean take some string and tie it tightly around the main stem? Never heard of such a practice, but cloning is all about experimenting to find what works best for you.

JC

 

[Mad Scientist]

Yeah exactly as you describe. I must admit I haven't tried this myself, but I've seen a friend of mine do it and his cuttings really do root at the same pace as cuttings from lower branches would. I think it may be explained in Robert Clarke's book also. I'm no professional botanist, but the girdling should stop auxine from flowing down and spreading out. And auxines are essential in forming roots, so this technique should cause cuttings from the upper part of the plant to root a lot quicker.

I can't explain all ins and outs, but I've seen the proof that makes this theory quite plausible.

 

[jcsmooth]

Thanks for the info Mad Scientist, and I'll have to try it out next round.

Right now my peat pellets are soaking in some water, so once they're big and fluffy it's cuttin' time! This will prove to be a worthy study break from finals, ya?

Wish me luck.
JC