Where to buy electric Y?

[sneakyninja]

As part of a grow I have been helping design the resevoir will be used for 2 flower rooms that are on a flip flop and so the rez will basically also be flip flopped. Does anyone know where I could get an electronically controlled Y or something that would allow me to take the flow of my nute solution coming out of the pump and direct it to one side of the Y and then be able to electronically (via timer/growtronix) switch it to the other side?

Thanks

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

why dont you try this...
ill assume you are E&F or NFT'ing...

plumb up both tubs into the same res.
and just run it 24/ if nft and 10/50 (on/off) if its ebb

 

[yamaha_1fan]

Running one rez for two rooms is not the best idea. It would be best to run seperate rezes.

But if you want one, you would need some type of manifold with valves that would regulate where the water went and when. Seems kind of complex if the feeding schedule is different between night and day.

The other option would be to use two pumps, one for each room. Then put each pump on its own timer. Very simple but you have the cost of an extra pump

 

[Guest]

Lawn Sprinkler Valves with timers, 2 pair, one on each side of the WYE. Richdell and RainBird are a few. They are available in 3/4" and larger, with 3/4" being the common denominator.

Hope this helps, not very spendy either.

TyStik

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

yamaha... nice 2 pumps!!!

you could run an oversized res for two rooms why not? root rot is an issue, but if kept in check...

i run my NFT's 24/7 nothing wrong with that wouldnt need 2 pumps either..

 

[Ganja Guerilla]

Lawn Sprinkler Valves with timers, 2 pair, one on each side of the WYE. Richdell and RainBird are a few. They are available in 3/4" and larger, with 3/4" being the common denominator.

Hope this helps, not very spendy either.

TyStik

That is the sound of a hammer hit a nail right on the head.... perfect solution for you right there.

 

[sneakyninja]

Thanks for that solution Tystik, didnt think of that one. The reason for wanting to run a single oversized rez is a plan to use growtronix along with metering pumps to dispense nutrients and ph up/down. The cost of the extra equipment to do this with 2 seperate rez's is more than the budget can handle right now.

Do you guys think a 300 gallon rez is enough for 14 3'x3' tables (7 in each room, each table with 9 plants)? bearing in mind I also have the ability to do water top up and nutrient top up via computer if it becomes necessary.

 

[BlindDate]

yamaha... nice 2 pumps!!!

If it took someone else to think this then maybe you should not grow.

Sprinkler valves require pressure to operate. Use a solenoid valve from Granger. Also, what is wrong with running both sides at the same time? I have the same situation, who cares if the lights are off on one side.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

Thanks for that solution Tystik, didnt think of that one. The reason for wanting to run a single oversized rez is a plan to use growtronix along with metering pumps to dispense nutrients and ph up/down. The cost of the extra equipment to do this with 2 seperate rez's is more than the budget can handle right now.

Do you guys think a 300 gallon rez is enough for 14 3'x3' tables (7 in each room, each table with 9 plants)? bearing in mind I also have the ability to do water top up and nutrient top up via computer if it becomes necessary.

thats a big res. but 7 tables...??
you might need a chiller if the drip lines are long/black....or res/nute gets warm... sounds like u got good gear on the res though.
run NFT 24h or ebb on a repeater timer.... 5 on 20 off... etc...

 

[PharmaCan]

sneakyninja - What you are looking for is an electronically controlled Ortega valve. Google "Ortega valve" and you should find what you are looking for.

PC

 

[sneakyninja]

Keep changing my mind between ebb/flow tables and ebb/flow buckets, either way it will be 9 plants per 600w, and 63 plants per room. Right now i'm hooked on buckets again because of a picture i saw earlier with an INSANE amount of rooting, I can't find it but some of you will have seen it and know what i'm talkin bout im sure.

I plan on getting in the optimum number of ebb/flow's during lights on and i'm sure if I flooded all the tables every time that would be entirely too many for the side with the lights off.

Tubing will all be 1" PVC as will all fittings to allow for rapid flooding and drainage.

I'll look into ortega valves now and report back, thanks PC.

 

[sneakyninja]

Didn't succede in finding any electric ortega valves, however during my search I did turn up this site: http://stcvalve.com/Solenoid_Valve.htm

Problem is I have no idea whatsoever what half of it means, i'm going to continue to read and see if I can figure it out but if anyone else can decipher it and give me a model name I would be extremely appreciative.

Edit: Found this: http://www.jandy.com/html/products/valves/jva.php

So i guess a combination of something like that and an ortega valve would work perfectly for what I'm trying to do.

 

[PharmaCan]

My mom has some kind of non-manual Ortega valve on her pool equipment, if that helps.

Are these the roots you are talking about? They are pretty insane. If my memory serves me correctly, it was a user named xcrispi over at CanCom that grew this plant.



Enjoy!

PC

 

[sneakyninja]

My mom has some kind of non-manual Ortega valve on her pool equipment, if that helps.

Are these the roots you are talking about? They are pretty insane. If my memory serves me correctly, it was a user named xcrispi over at CanCom that grew this plant.



Enjoy!

PC

Yep, those are the roots, had to quote the picture just so people can see it twice.

 

[yamaha_1fan]

I considered using sprinkler valves but gave up. I admit I didnt do much research. I am pretty sure the timers that are used for sprinklers are not going to match hydro applications. They usually have 1-2 on/off times per day, not 6-7 like in hydro.

I think the trick is to figure out how to control those valves.

Do you have a seperate veg room?

Blind Date, most people running e&F feed during lights on, and maybe once at night. Not all, but most, maybe some, maybe just a few....

 

[yamaha_1fan]

Can the growtronix directly control these valves?

You may find it easier to let the GT control two pumps then trying to mess with the valves.

You may also find it easier to skip the GT. Its on my list but I get by w/o it. I check PH every few days and adjust. I find with a 200 gallon rez, it stays stable for a while. I also dont top off and my PPM's stays stable for the whole grow with just a couple rez changes. The plants may do better with more rez changes but the $$$ is tight and nutes for 200 gallons aint cheap.

 

[sneakyninja]

Do you have a seperate veg room?

Yep, planning on going clone>veg for 2 weeks>in to the buckets

When I get 2 1/2 weeks from harvest pull a new batch of clones from the mothers so that they will be ready to go in a day or 2 after harvesting the flowering plants.

It's gonna be a lot of work around flower time with trimming then immediately transplanting the vegging plants in to the buckets.

I'm planning on using the GT to control the valve yes, if i'm not able to make that work then i'll just put it on a timer but I see no reason that I couldn't make it work. The GT is the crucial part of the setup for me, It'll allow me to keep EVERY parameter of the room perfect with minimal effort. It'll be controlling: Dehumidifier, A/C, CO2 Generator, nutrient dosing, water top off, security, safety (in case of flood, fire etc.), flood times, triggering the flip flop, and doing just about everything possible. My goal (remains to be seen if it will happen) is to enter the room once every 2 weeks. I'm planning on using XP's remote desktop to allow me to access control of the growtronix and view 10 webcams that i'm going to be placing in there without using the internet which to me is an added security risk w/ webcams.

 

[yamaha_1fan]

The only issue I see is the varying voltage types of the valves and if the GT hardware can actually trigger the valves. I have no idea. From what I have seen, the software is capable of it though

I have looked into GT and I really want it. Sounds like you will have a good show going.

Harvest time is always busy. Usually means new clones, tranplanting rooted clones/vegged plants to flower room and all the trimming

 

[PharmaCan]

sneakyninja - Have you done much cloning? It takes 1 - 2 weeks for the cutting to grow roots, so at 2 1/2 weeks you will only have a couple days of veg time that you can be sure of on a regular basis. If you are planning on actually vegging the plants before you put them in the system, you might want to consider taking the cuttings a little sooner. (Don't mean to treat you like a noob - LOL. But I do a lot of cloning and what you were saying about vegging just didn't sound right so, trying to be helpful.)

PC

 

[yamaha_1fan]

good catch PC. You can go flower in 2-3 weeks but not how you are growing. flowering a clone after 2-3 weeks would for a SOG. You wouldnt get full use of 9 plants per 3x3 table after 3 weeks from clone

Why not go bigger tables and less of them?