Where are Nepalese Sativas?

[Syd]

I've read the old catalogues posted by the dear Capt.Crip and -one more time- I've wondered the same question: where are the nepali sativas and/or why they desappeared from the market? They were described as giant and powerful plants but what I see today are just nepali indicas crosses or pure nepali indicas. Crossed with other sativas just for lowering the flowering phase. It has its sense without doubts but ... ... I've never found an answer to this question: where are they and why everybody stopped to use and produce'em since '80s ?

 

[BeAn]

Hey dude, good idea.. ive often wondered the same thing, but i remember reading somewhere about the Nepali Sativa being widespread with hermaphroditism.... maybe if this is true could it be a possible hypothesis?

Maybe not the only reason if at all, anyone got any ideas??

Keep it green!

EDIT: The Thai's of the old days have contributed to a lot of strain's that we have now, and they are renound for they're Hermies.. hmmm... They are well known but why not the Nepali's??

 

[Goyakla]

I belive that "Himylain Gold " from GHS has some Nepali Sativa in it may by North Indian ?
Anyway a hell of a good smoke

 

[Syd]

EDIT: The Thai's of the old days have contributed to a lot of strain's that we have now, and they are renound for they're Hermies.. hmmm... They are well known but why not the Nepali's??

I agree, mate. I love SE Asian strains and I've read and tested a lot of things about their qualities and the supposed tendencies to become hermies. I say "supposed" just 'cause I had some good results outdoor with Thai genetics but I can't swear they were pure. Anyway Thais are still in the market (true or fake or skunkized or anything they were) but Nepali don't. So what's the problem?
Just tell me...anybody...something logical...'cause there must be a logical reason.
There are good people who wanna preserve landraces from S.America and Asia like Zamalito or dubi...just to mention the first ones that come in my mind now (no offence for all the others) but the question remains the same. Why not Nepali?
Plus Nepal is a relatively quiet country (compared to the other producer countries) and it wouldn't be so hard to travel in it, looking for seeds and genetics.

Well.....I'm full of Pinot and I gotta take a pause from my PC. See ya tomorrow, mates

 

[Haps]

I love the blue nepalese, don't know if or when Reef will offer it again.Here are a couple.
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[Thule]

There is bangi haze which is 50% nepali sativa. But that's all I've found to date. Maybe the genetics have just gotten replaced by indica ones.

 

[Syd]

Christ...how much my English sucks after some Italian white wine? ;-)

@ Goyakla: I had very bad experiences with GH Himalayan Gold and I generally don't trust in anything GH says in its descriptions. BTW I really don't wanna start a discussion about GH in this thread, so please forgive me if I prefer to stop the subject.

@ Haps: Never tried but I'm curious. ... I'm always curious about what I don't know.

I've seen the Shiva's Joy by Herbaria that's a pure nepalese indica and the Nepali by Bluehemp but it's not told if or how much is indica or sativa.
I even got some Reeferman OPC that's a Nepali indica hybrid... to test and ...taste... ... ... but I still want my answer: Y not Nepali?

Mmmmh, I just remebered that I got some pics from OG of a Nep. Sativa. I'll be back in few mins.

 

[Syd]

 

[BeAn]

Those red stems look so cool!

 

[Syd]

Only if it's natural.
I've seen red stems caused by a cat who liked to piss on the pots. The plants were burned by the overdose of nitrogen and the taste was neutral like american chikens.

 

[BeAn]

Well yeah i spose your right..when its a defieciency or a toxicicity its not so good.

^^She's all natural..


Be safe dude!

 

[Highlighter]

Besides the 'Bangi Haze', ACE also offers 'Guerilla' :

"This beautiful F1 cames to cross two of our best highland sativas: the generous, compact and fast Leshoto from the south-African mountains and the exotic Nepalese from the Kathmandú Valley.

The aroma is a blend between different mediterranean spices such as rosemary, anise with forest fruit details and woody and incensed hints.

We strongly recommend this strain for cold climates and grows in high zones, where this sativa finishes with amazing red and purple colours along the stem and buds. High mold resistance."

The strain 'Purple Peace' is also half nepalese sativa (X Viking). The breeder sent some beans out a few yrs. back. Totally an outdoor strain.

Hope that helps!

 

[wannabeebreeder]

swiss miss from nirvana was decent it said it grew quick but it took fereva in florida about 5 months to finish it coulda went longer but unfortunately i had to move.. it smelled like dank tropical fruit but didnt smell up the house...


keep blazin all....

 

[beancounter]

I'm not sure, but I think that OG Bub's Nepal HashPlant IBL is mostly sativa, but a fairly fast one.. Unfortunately it's an unreleased line, and Bub was busted, but some stock was saved and it may become avaliable one day.

I'm gonna start some very soon, and I wanted to tag this thread so i can come back and post up some pics..


I'll also be starting up some Nepali from Blue Hemp but it's listed as mostly indica, altho the plants pictured don't have a typical indica appearance.. I'll post up pics of both later.

 

[Raco]

Besides the 'Bangi Haze', ACE also offers 'Guerilla' :

"This beautiful F1 cames to cross two of our best highland sativas: the generous, compact and fast Leshoto from the south-African mountains and the exotic Nepalese from the Kathmandú Valley.

The aroma is a blend between different mediterranean spices such as rosemary, anise with forest fruit details and woody and incensed hints.

We strongly recommend this strain for cold climates and grows in high zones, where this sativa finishes with amazing red and purple colours along the stem and buds. High mold resistance."

The strain 'Purple Peace' is also half nepalese sativa (X Viking). The breeder sent some beans out a few yrs. back. Totally an outdoor strain.

Hope that helps!

Hola Highlighter,
I´ve grown both Bangi Haze and Guerrilla,with great results :smile:

 

[Syd]

Thanks everybody for stoppin' here.

Hola Raco, do you have any pics of those plants?

 

[la mano negra]

Hola
nepalese sativa

 

[dubi]

High Syd!

Thank you very much to post my old kathmandu pics! After the OG fall and my hard disk failure i lost many old pics and the nepalese kathmandu were one of them.

Nepalese kathmandu sativa represents the classic wild himalaya sativa phenotype. She grows tall, lanky and asymetric with dark purple/pink pigmentation. Her appearance is delicate but resists very nice wind and cold.

The aromas are truely special. She flowers with a sweet wild strawberry aroma. The taste is hashy, sweet, spicy with a strong hazy/incense influence in the smoke of some females. The high is progressive, expansive and clean. Not specially overpowering but nicely focused and without ceiling. Flowering time is around 13 weeks, finishing around late November in pure form.

It was one of the firsts landraces i worked with.I smoked later haze hybrids like kali mist or jack herer for the first time and found similar incense aromas. I thought haze had nepalese influence ehhehehe

The seeds were recollected by a friend in a little village close Kathmandu. They are the smaller seeds ive seen in a cannabis strains along with some wild north indians too.

I love nepalese and north indian sativas, they have unique and different aromas and tastes to offer. There's a huge diversity of growing structures, flowering times, aromas, kind of highs etc ...

The cause of the genetic diversity could be the inbreeding process that each isolated population could suffer in the great diversity of himalayan micro climates, stabilizing different expression in different zones.

We have hundreds of commercial strains but sadly very few have genes from North Indian and Nepal.

We at ACE have been breeding with different nepalese sativas being the nepalese kathmandu the first one.

 

[dubi]

Mexican x nepalese kathmandu

Mexican x nepalese kathmandu

Here's the first F1 hybrid i did with the nepalese.

I crossed a early and clear mexican adapted to my zone with a first generation nepalese kathmandu male.

Pure Nepalese kathmandu ovaries are incredible little producing very little seeds.

Strain with small seed have less vigour in the root system and first growing stages. That's why i used the nepalese kathmandu as a father, so the mexican can provide her fat ovary for seed hybrid production.

The mexican x nepalese F1 grew super vigorous. Quite more symetrical thanx to the mexican influence but still quite tall and lanky. The flowers had a mexican appearance but the aroma and pistils had an exotic nepalese influence. The high was excellent and complex.

Here are some pics of the hybrid growing in soil, almost perfect conditions.








Mexican x nepalese starting to flower




passing mid flowering


and finished

 

[Syd]

Hola Dubi,
thanks to you for all these infos about Nepalis. Your "forest" of hybrids is really beautiful. I hope one day to see many more Nepali sativas or just Nepali dominant strains available for growers. Sativas that perform well in non tropical environments are always more than welcome.