When was the last time fan leafs got you stoned?

[EclipseFour20]

Not that I smoke leaf--but I recall various research papers stating leaf can have a greater CBN to THC ratio than buds. I am sure they were talking about sugar leaf--not the big ass fan leaf that grows to the size of one's hand.

Years ago, I ran chocolope that was killer and full of sweet/syrupy melon flavor and I gave the trim to a collective--instead of using it to make dry ice hash, they rolled joints with it. Wanna laugh? In reading the on-line reviews from that collective, the membership went crazy over those joints...lol, smokin trim, go figure. Certainly did not say much about their membership...is what I concluded. I certainly can distinguish a joint rolled from "trim" vs "flower" vs "leaf"....it is not "rocket science".

Cheers!

 

[Gry]

Anything with visible trichs gets tossed into the save container for extractions. Am in full agreement with the waste not want not. The idea of tossing hash plant in a blender with watermelon to improve the flavor sounds pretty interesting to me. The thought of having some the sats from southeast asia that are so strong that the leaves are viable at harvest sounds real nice too.

 

[gekolite]

1966

 

[dddaver]

Not that I smoke leaf--but I recall various research papers stating leaf can have a greater CBN to THC ratio than buds. I am sure they were talking about sugar leaf--not the big ass fan leaf that grows to the size of one's hand.

Cheers!

I thought THC is a cannabinoid.

"The most notable cannabinoid is the phytocannabinoid ∆9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the primary psychoactive compound of cannabis.[2][3] Cannabidiol (CBD) is another major constituent of the plant, representing up to 40% in extracts of the plant resin."

Did you mean CBD to THC ratio? I think I read somewhere about leaves usually having better ratios too. That is why I use some. Juicing might be better than smoking that harsh shit.

 

[EclipseFour20]

I thought THC is a cannabinoid.

"The most notable cannabinoid is the phytocannabinoid ∆9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the primary psychoactive compound of cannabis.[2][3] Cannabidiol (CBD) is another major constituent of the plant, representing up to 40% in extracts of the plant resin."

Did you mean CBD to THC ratio? I think I read somewhere about leaves usually having better ratios too. That is why I use some. Juicing might be better than smoking that harsh shit.

You are right that CBD is a major constituent of the cannabis plant, but I do mean CBN not CBD as cited in this study: http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/bulletin/bulletin_1997-01-01_1_page008.html

"The concentration of D9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabinol (CBN) in cannabis plant material (marijuana) of different varieties stored at room temperature (20-22o Celsius (C)) over a four-year period was determined. The percentage loss of THC was proportional to the storage time. On average, the concentration of THC in the plant material decreased by 16.6% ±7.4 of its original value after one year and 26.8% ±7.3, 34.5% ±7.6 and 41.4% ±6.5 after two, three and four years, respectively. A relationship between the concentration ratio of CBN to THC and the storage time was developed and could serve as a guide in determining the approximate age of a given marijuana sample stored at room temperature."

This actually makes sense, as THC decreases (the denominator in the equation) and since the concentration of CBN (the numerator) degrades slower--the ratio of CBN to THC will naturally increase as THC degrades.

That said (from wiki): "Cannabinol (CBN) is a weak psychoactive cannabinoid found only in trace amounts in Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica.[5] It is mostly a metabolite of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).[6] CBN acts as a weak agonist of CB1 receptors but has a higher affinity to CB2 receptors, with lower affinities in comparison to THC.[7][8] Because of its somewhat selective CB2 agonism, it is used experimentally as an immunosuppressant."

BTW, years ago while researching various degradation issues of cannabis (flowers and connies), I stumbled on this study...and it stuck with me that THC (from vegetative matter) degrades rather fast: 16.6%, 26.8%, 34.5% and 41.4% for years years 1-4...but when connies are properly made (stabilized) the THC degradation can be less than 10% a year.

Good to know there are few other people that "know more than the average bear!"

Cheers.

 

[-aka-]

does running the leaves through bubblebags count?? Peace

 

[therevverend]

Good question. About 20 years ago. I didn't know a lot. First good grow I ever saw outdoors. Dude let me strip as many fan leaves off his nearly finished Jamaican. I got to keep the ones I picked. Back then they actually got me stoned. Saved me from a cigarette addiction. Every day before and after work I'd roll some drum and smoke it. Started liking it. Then I got that shake and did the same thing. Realized it was a hell of a lot better so I started growing.
But I've been getting high off shake all summer. Been using males in place of basil in sauces. Tomato sauce sometimes but I got ripped off my ass with a big greasy male and a coconut green curry. Had a bunch of leftovers so I spent a couple days toasted. The fat in the coconut milk converted the THC into a usable form.

 

[master chine]

Lool few week ago loool
No more bud

 

[dddaver]

You are right that CBD is a major constituent of the cannabis plant, but I do mean CBN not CBD as cited in this study: http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/bulletin/bulletin_1997-01-01_1_page008.html

"The concentration of D9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabinol (CBN) in cannabis plant material (marijuana) of different varieties stored at room temperature (20-22o Celsius (C)) over a four-year period was determined. The percentage loss of THC was proportional to the storage time. On average, the concentration of THC in the plant material decreased by 16.6% ±7.4 of its original value after one year and 26.8% ±7.3, 34.5% ±7.6 and 41.4% ±6.5 after two, three and four years, respectively. A relationship between the concentration ratio of CBN to THC and the storage time was developed and could serve as a guide in determining the approximate age of a given marijuana sample stored at room temperature."

This actually makes sense, as THC decreases (the denominator in the equation) and since the concentration of CBN (the numerator) degrades slower--the ratio of CBN to THC will naturally increase as THC degrades.

That said (from wiki): "Cannabinol (CBN) is a weak psychoactive cannabinoid found only in trace amounts in Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica.[5] It is mostly a metabolite of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).[6] CBN acts as a weak agonist of CB1 receptors but has a higher affinity to CB2 receptors, with lower affinities in comparison to THC.[7][8] Because of its somewhat selective CB2 agonism, it is used experimentally as an immunosuppressant."

BTW, years ago while researching various degradation issues of cannabis (flowers and connies), I stumbled on this study...and it stuck with me that THC (from vegetative matter) degrades rather fast: 16.6%, 26.8%, 34.5% and 41.4% for years years 1-4...but when connies are properly made (stabilized) the THC degradation can be less than 10% a year.

Good to know there are few other people that "know more than the average bear!"

Cheers.

I guess this is a little late, but sorry about that man. I guess I just misread it. You clearly said CBN.

 

[paper thorn]

well, back in 79 I had a big old Oaxacan momma that I would roll the fans like cigars. the cigars didn't hit very good, so I'd cut them into chunks big enough to put in a one hit bong bowl.
Got plenty high.

 

[Jon 54]

1988

Jon 54

 

[whatsmells]

when I was a kid. some 35 odd years ago

 

[MRsistatumbleweed]

Never even as a youngster just gave me a headache..

 

[Skeeterass]

Its been years.. but back then sometimes you couldn't find anything and took what you could get. I was glaf to have it. I mostly smoked it in a bong when I could. It did the job. The branch tips and the top can be fairly potent even.