I've been researching for over a year and a hhlf and I feel I'm finally ready to grow. I just have a couple questions. When should I plant, I've heard two contradicting things, some people say to get huge plants you should start in may and others say you should start like in jan-February for monsters. The last frost in my area is about march 25. I'm planning on starting my plants early inside about 15 days before the last frost and then hardening them off to be outside when they're about 25 days old. Any thoughts? Thank you very much
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When to plant??
- Thread starter Kushman12
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Sounds good
I'm in a different climate to you but the best advice I can give is to just do it. Don't purchase seeds for your first few grows perhaps, source something easy to work with, bag seed, clones from mates. Learning whilst doing is the best way. You might go wrong but you will learn more from your mistakes then any amount of reading up. I wish you good luck man. Just keep them out of those cold days, unless you want them to flower up and re veg a little, (makes for monsters if that is what you are after).
gorilla ganja
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Really depends on strain and latitude your growing at.
If you put them out and the night hrs of darkness are long enough they will begin to flower and as the daylight lengthens till summer solstice they will reveg.
Do some research on light hrs that your strain will begin to flower and try and put them out when the daylight is longer so they don't flower on you.
Good luck and may all your buds be huge.
Peace GG
If you put them out and the night hrs of darkness are long enough they will begin to flower and as the daylight lengthens till summer solstice they will reveg.
Do some research on light hrs that your strain will begin to flower and try and put them out when the daylight is longer so they don't flower on you.
Good luck and may all your buds be huge.
Peace GG
You could start indoors now, under 12/12(light/dark) lighting. I'd wait until April 1st or so to put them outdoors. Be careful of late frosts.
Far as buying seed. They're expensive. You can get some good sensi bud from schwag/regular/mid bag seed. I wouldn't recommend buying seed from a seedbank and using them outdoors if you're extremely novice at growing. Though if you have money to burn, its up to you.
Far as buying seed. They're expensive. You can get some good sensi bud from schwag/regular/mid bag seed. I wouldn't recommend buying seed from a seedbank and using them outdoors if you're extremely novice at growing. Though if you have money to burn, its up to you.
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Robrites
If March is your last frost, I'd say aim for two-footers and start them so you can plant outdoors on Mothers Day.
Don't listen to this guy ^^^, 12/12 will force flower the plants and that's a waste of time.
The real question is, how large of plants can you move outside? If your backpacking them in you'll not want super large plants. Under weak veg lights a node a week is normal growth. Larger lights and they'll grow faster and larger. There are so many things to consider when timing and size are crucial.
Figure how your plants are going to grow, rate and size according to your set up. Then figure they go outside in the ground when the stores in your area are selling tomato plants.
Yup don't listen to me...
For starting seedlings to put out around April 1st-15th 12/12 will be fine. ( research how long it takes cannabis sativa sativa and cannabis sativa indica to mature enough to flower [ I think I used 14/10, 16/8 or 18/6 light cycle for my veg/seedlings, though thats been 6-7yrs ago and I don't quite remember] )
If he were to start them on 24/0 or 16/8 then put outdoors when the natural light cycle is building up to 14/10(by late June). It wouldn't be an increase in light to promote veg growth. (ignore this)
After light hits 14/10 then drops down to around 12 is when indica/sativa strains flower. Some ruderalis strains will flower under constant light..
Anyway I'm just too stoned to know my ass from a hole in the ground.
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try a 15 hour veg cycle then put outside....yeehaw..start now
I veg under 18hrs a day for my outdoor. plants wont start flowering unless there is less then 14.5 hrs of light a day. you can use this chart to see how the hours ramp up and down in your area.
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/Dur_OneYear.php
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/Dur_OneYear.php
I'll change my suggestion. 14/10, 16/8 lighting for seedlings.
There is a mature rate(age) at which plant will start(from seedling) to flower under 12/12 light, I can't remember the time frame.
Any who, I'm the kind of person who did all the things everyone said not to do.
There is a mature rate(age) at which plant will start(from seedling) to flower under 12/12 light, I can't remember the time frame.
Any who, I'm the kind of person who did all the things everyone said not to do.
Thank you all so much, I was also wondering, what night temps will stunt the growth of seedlings, outdoors. Also has anyone heard of the horizontal planting method described by silverback here, it's also called layering. You take a 12"-16" plant and cut off the branches on one side then peel the skin slightly and add some rooting agent, plant it sideways so the branches face up. The result is a big bush.
gorilla ganja
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google horizontal planting. Common method for tomatoes and landscaping bushes.
Peace GG
Peace GG
MelloYello
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Start 1/3 of them on 4/20,5/20 and 6/20. I bet your 6/20 come out best quality.
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I have had plants under 24 and 18 veg start to flower when put out in early spring... 15 hrs works for me....yeehaw
^^^this... especially if this is your first go round. It'll give you the experience you need to make this decision in the years to come.
Far as veg cycle indoors goes...
Find the amount of daylight hours at the time you plant outdoors.
Then, match that to your light cycle to start your seeds.
Hybrids start flowering anywhere from 16/8 to 14/10 day/night, ime. I had one variety, breed around 55N that triggered flowering at anything under 18 hours.
Even within a pack of seeds you might see some plants start flowering as soon as mid july and as late as beginning Sept.
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Robrites
Some people's kids.
chronosync
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They are trying to integrate the plant into a natural photoperiod so it dont wig like my girl on hers.
I've always focused on keeping their temps up if I'm planting early and don't want early spring flowering. But using this flowering process can help if you know what you're upto. I like to cover them all. Keeps them in veg quite nicely where I'm from and early spring flowering is a massive problem here. I've planted out half a foot babies, 1 foot babies, even 3 feet babies. Clone and seed. They all react slightly different but I can keep them out of flowering if I' trying. A feed a little high in nitrogen will help, making sure those plants aren't going to get root bound in little pots is another way to prevent that flowering shit. If your raising them on lights, chances are because of the temp drops they will do a little flowering when you chuck them outside, keep that in mind and you'll be away.
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Here is a real guerrilla answer.
Please dont get caught up into light cycles. You can grow a 10 lb plant but if it gets pulled it still dont put smoke in your pipe.
Focus on security . There is nothing wrong starting June 1st when there is plenty of native vegetation . June and July are your big veg months for most latitudes. Spend you valuable time looking for a secure location and let the other stuff take a back seat.
