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When to make soil ammendment/preparation for outdoor guerilla growing ?

DuskrayTroubador

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DT any reason you are watering in nutes (read your thread) rather than building season long growth sustaining soil or using a time release nute? It could really cut down on your work and times needed to visit your sites

I can only carry in so much to amend soil, both in the physical sense and cost sense. Hauling in amendments, if you're going to build self-sufficient soil, is a LOT of work and costs a lot. Not to mention I can't use blood meal, bone meal, etc. because I'll have animals digging everything up.

As for time-release nutes, I've heard of them fucking shit up with releasing nutes at incorrect times, such as excess nitrogen during flower. I don't know if this is true or not.

I also feed my girls HEAVY. Spontanica especially will eat up all the nutes you can throw at her. During stretch I'm feeding 2x the recommended dose at 2x the recommended rate and they could eat more! I don't know if I could get that much food to them using time-release without burning them before stretch.

That, and in my environment I have to be out there removing mini greenhouses, opening up the tops of chicken-wire cages, sprayign for insects, spraying a variety of (safe) fungicides, etc. I figure I'm out there a bit anyway.


hello guys ! how are you ? :)


@ DuskrayTroubador, i read your thread too and it was a great grow, beautiful plants, crazy about the bear visit, i will be very interested if you could share some quick smoke report/ feedback on the strains your grew specialy the spontanica, i was interested in this strain along with KC33, leda uno, and TNR but i choose leda uno because its was a bit earlier and maybe with a bit more potency basing on other outdoor growers experience. Do you found the spontanica fems to be homogenous ? you were the first grower i saw growing KC brains fems, i have ordered a 10 seeds pack of leda uno fems, i hope the germination ratio will be as good as you, 3/4 for you if i remember well.

Maybe you could add an organic fertilizer to the soil it will help a lot but if you just add some worm casting i dont think your soil will be very very hot, depending how many worm casting you will add and your native soil. 10% high quality worm casting is good. personally in your case i will build a quality soil mix using the native soil, some organic well balanced fertilizer mix for flower or tomatoes/strawberry ferts, 10% worm casting, perlite, some guano high in P, and adjust the pH of the soil if necessary with maerl/lithothamne/dolomite lime. i will plant the very young plants in a seedling mix and dig a hole of approximatly 4 liters and fill the hole with a soil mix stronger than your seedling mix (like some biobizz all mix for example) but less strong than the quality mix. so 3 soil mix.

Another thing maybe and please take it as a grower friendly advice for your security and not a negative criticism at all, its about your security, i saw some electric poles in your pics, if you can, plant each plant in a separate plot, it will be more stealth than many plants put together.

The Green Poison FV was dank as fuck, the Spontanica is pretty potent as well. It keeps me stoned off my ass. The Special Queen is solid as well.

The Spontanica fems aren't all the same. All the seeds germinated IIRC. I remember fucking up when I went to plant somehow, but I can't remember exactly. The plants however showed some variety. Two were pretty similar, one finished a week and a half, maybe two weeks after the others. This one was also the biggest one, tipping the scale at about 2lbs dry.

The Spontanicas finish before Leda Uno does, I think.

I definitely want to use earthworm castings, some bat guano might be good, too. Insect frass is the chit (pun intended), so I recommend that. I watered it in last year, and will be mixing it into the soil and watering it in this year. Anything else you'd recommend?

As for the power lines, you're right. I'm not using that plot again next year. In fact, I'm probably never going to use either spot again; I'm probably going to somewhere completely different for this upcoming season. I probably won't figure out where with enough time to get there and properly set up with the luxury of a pre-season; I'm most likely gonna have to get there and hit the ground running.

EDIT: I also want to plant clover as a cover crop, but I don't think I'll have any time to let it germinate and grow before putting germinated seeds in the holes too. Mulch instead? Kygiacomo recommended using leaves instead of mulch, which I kinda like.
 
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Gizmo

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hello DT, thank you very much for the feedback on the Spontanica, the Leda Uno should be a little earlier following KC Brains site, it says 9-11 weeks outside for the Spontanica or an harvest end of september until half october (at 52°N i suppose), your experience seems to match the breeder description on the different phenotypes ripening date, Leda Uno is said to be a 8-10 weeks outside or end of september. here's a pic of a beautiful Leda Uno grown outside by an another grower.

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You must have been very happy with your Spontanica 2lbs plant, the plants you showed at the end of your thread were beautiful.

I looked at insect frass because i didn't know it but could not find the NPK content, its a nutrient or an additive ?

I have a limited experience on outdoor growing and soil preparation but the best recommendation i could give you is as i said a nice organic fertilizer like DCM organic fertilizer 7-6-12+4Mgo and Guano Kalong guano 2-15-2. Stabilizing the pH of your soil is a important thing too. DCM is a Belgian company but at your local gardening shop they must have approximatly the same type of organic nutrients mix for flowers/strawberies/tomatoes.

Planting clovers is a good idea, maybe with a little luck you could find a four-leaf clover phenotype under your guerilla plants, if not you will still have a nice selection of Cannabis phenotypes to console yourself :biggrin:
I think i will just pick some local plants and put them at the bottom on my plants maybe with a stone or two on it.
 
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Shallow and wiiiiiiide gizmo. Well watered roots love to go searching horizontally. Mulch well as it gets warmer too keep that top layer alive and well and your big girls will love u for it. Goodluck
 

Gizmo

Member
hello guys !

I hope you are all well, thank you hobbyhorse, in the end i will begin with smaller size holes as i have many things to buy, i will try some 2 feet large and one foot deep hole.
Im doing a little list of what i will need to my guerilla grow, i don't know if i will be ready to begin this year because i need some more preparation and im pretty busy with family life right now but anyway, time will tell soon.

The spot where i will grow seems to be a good one, but still with some fishermans, bird watchers and some people doing kayaking during the summer so i must always be very careful.

It will be a small grow, 10 fems seeds, KC Brains Leda Uno, if i have bad germination rate 5 females are all i need.

As i already said i will use the native soil who is a sandy soil type and will make some amendments.

here's the list :

- pruning saw (to clean the vegetation)
- green chicken wire
- copper mesh (against slugs and snails)
- military foldable shovel
- green tarp (to mix the soil)
- heavy duty 3 gallons bucket (to water the plants)
- some roots stimulator
- organic liquid fertilizer for vegetative phase
- organic liquid fertilizer for flowering phase
- small peat pots
- pH test kit
- seedling soil mix
- a bag of biobizz all mix
- tomatoes/strawberries organic fertilizer powder/pellets
- worm casting
- ground horn
- guano kalong
- maerl
- perlite
- water retaining crystals

thats all for now :)
 
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bozga

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Keep it simple. You have all you need in the nature around you. some ammendments are ok but don't overdo it. Soil needs to be balanced to get great flowers.
What I'll be doing is adding zeolite clinoptilolite as it raises CEC so much less nutes are needed and add some beneficial fungi.
Soil from the forest floor is great, has lot's of good bacteria and no need to carry tons of soil bags.
I'd put perlite in the bottom of the holes for drainage and mix zeoilte in the soil with organic stuff, mostly compost. Should be okay. A bit of hydrogel for summer.
When the spot is good and all is well prepared, you don't even need to water plants. I had success with proper soil preparation, no watering and had beautful plants in '11.
Also, don't plant your plants where they get full sun, a bit of shade will do them good. Wishing you succes and also would like to exchange good info with other guerilla masters :D
PEACE
boz
 
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