When to make soil ammendment/preparation for outdoor guerilla growing ?

[Gizmo]

hello fellows, i began to check out for a good outdoor location to guerilla grow and i found a nice place i will need to visit till next summer and autumn to see if its still a nice place at those dates. i have a good soil recipe to test and water will be supplied by a close river.
I will use the native soil but i will make some ammendments with worm castings, bat guano, an organic tomato fertilizer, dolomite lime, polymer water retaining crystals and maybe perlite, ground horn and GH mineral magic. my question is when must i prepare my soil ? i will plant mid june at the latest
thank you

 

[Robrites]

When I started Guerrilla
We dug holes in February
Filled 'em with dirt in March
Planted on Mothers Day
No more than 10 per Spot

 

[Gizmo]

thank you Robrites, its looks good, i will do like that. i was not planing to plant many plants, its my first guerilla grow, i will try with 10 females and will plant them far from each other in case a reaper find a spot. the only humans who can find the spot should be a fisherman or some lost kayaking people.

 

[Robrites]

It depends on where you live but that worked for Western Oregon. In general, amend 45 days before planting so the amendments have a chance to break down and don't burn your plants.

 

[Purple Jungle]

Yeah, a month in advance at least. Make sure to mulch, it helps a ton.

 

[who dat is]

When I started Guerrilla
We dug holes in February
Filled 'em with dirt in March
Planted on Mothers Day
No more than 10 per Spot

It depends on where you live but that worked for Western Oregon. In general, amend 45 days before planting so the amendments have a chance to break down and don't burn your plants.

Yeah, a month in advance at least. Make sure to mulch, it helps a ton.

 

[stoned-trout]

be carefull with perlite it stands out when exposed bigtime...make sure to cover it well...yeehaw...FWIW sometimes after a heavy rain when plants are small it will float to the soil surface even if previously covered...little white rings in the forest stand out easily..been there made that mistake

 

[who dat is]

be carefull with perlite it stands out when exposed bigtime...make sure to cover it well...yeehaw

Good call. Maybe substitute Diatomaceous Earth (Napa Floor Dry) instead of perlite as it is darker in color.

 

[Gizmo]

Hello guys thank you for the answers, I was reading about what size of hole i must dig before planting and i read some different advice, could you tell me what is your opinion please ?

i want to grow big plants like 15' trees if possible so im planning to begin seeds early in march.

do you think its better to dig hole of :

2 foot deep 2 foot in diameter

4 foot deep 4 foot in diameter

14 inches deep 4 foot in diameter

14 inches deep 30 inches in diameter ?

 

[Boyd Crowder]

have yet to grow outside - but i would prolly chuck seeds on 4/20 or the nearest full moon
as for the holes , Im leaning towards the shallow/wide concept as thats how the raised bed guerrilla styles Ive seen seem to do best
for the 15' rs , you are gonna need cages for support of those beasts so plan on packing out some fencing and posts
and yeah perlite camo would prolly be a good idea, mulching with some local fuckery would prolly be a good idea

1000th post was not wasted on back pattery yay!

 

[tech1234]

anything deeper than 18" is a waste of your time. 36" diameter will produce monsters with proper light/soil/genetics

 

[Sativan]

Wow, tech1234 those are trees!

 

[DJbigbud]

I think the depth thing is dependent on where you are located. If you are in an arid/dry climate, deeper will reduce moisture lost to evap and also keep roots cooler. In a more rainy environment shallower would be better. Roots will go where they need to go, for what they are looking for.

 

[Gizmo]

Thank you for the replies guys !

@ happy 1000th post Boyd Crowder, im with you on the shallow/wide concept for the hole, most of the american outdoor growers i saw on the net use big grow bags i would say 1 foot deep and 4 foot diameter.
If i will have big plant and i really wish to have one, i will not be able to make cages, it will be a guerilla grow and i can only access by boat so its not easy but i could stretch out a rope between my tree and "regular" trees
About the perlite its true its not the best because its white so as the soil of the spot is a sandy soil and lots of river sand is available close on river beaches maybe i will add sand instead of perlite i dont know if its a good idea, i have to dig this question before i dig the hole

@tech1234, beautiful trees ! whats the size of those plants ? you supercropped them or some sort of thing don't you ?
Im with you on the depth of the hole, now im thinking 14" deep and 4 foot diameter at max for my plan. no way i will dig a 4 foot hole ! I will try to build a rich soil with the right pH, i simplify the amendment i was planning to do originally, i will add to the native soil worm casting, bat guano 2-15-2, an organic fertilizer 7-6-12+4Mgo, maerl and polymer water retaining crystals. The strain should be Leda Uno so the huge plant potential is here.

@DJBigbud very good remark, in arid dry climat it could help the plant a lot especially if its a guerilla grow with limited water supply.
Im not sure what kind of roots Cannabis have and maybe there is some difference between the subspecies but i get the impression that Cannabis has more tracing roots than roots who go deep, im not a specialist on the subject of roots type but i will be happy to understand more about that, another thing to dig

 

[tech1234]

Thank you for the replies guys !

@ happy 1000th post Boyd Crowder, im with you on the shallow/wide concept for the hole, most of the american outdoor growers i saw on the net use big grow bags i would say 1 foot deep and 4 foot diameter.
If i will have big plant and i really wish to have one, i will not be able to make cages, it will be a guerilla grow and i can only access by boat so its not easy but i could stretch out a rope between my tree and "regular" trees
About the perlite its true its not the best because its white so as the soil of the spot is a sandy soil and lots of river sand is available close on river beaches maybe i will add sand instead of perlite i dont know if its a good idea, i have to dig this question before i dig the hole

@tech1234, beautiful trees ! whats the size of those plants ? you supercropped them or some sort of thing don't you ?
Im with you on the depth of the hole, now im thinking 14" deep and 4 foot diameter at max for my plan. no way i will dig a 4 foot hole ! I will try to build a rich soil with the right pH, i simplify the amendment i was planning to do originally, i will add to the native soil worm casting, bat guano 2-15-2, an organic fertilizer 7-6-12+4Mgo, maerl and polymer water retaining crystals. The strain should be Leda Uno so the huge plant potential is here.

@DJBigbud very good remark, in arid dry climat it could help the plant a lot especially if its a guerilla grow with limited water supply.
Im not sure what kind of roots Cannabis have and maybe there is some difference between the subspecies but i get the impression that Cannabis has more tracing roots than roots who go deep, im not a specialist on the subject of roots type but i will be happy to understand more about that, another thing to dig

one is 6' and the other 8' both did 1 1/4 to 1 1/2lb. with all popcorn buds getting blasted. No topping or super cropping. Just let them be plants.

Somewhere that I can't find right now there is a write up about oxygen availability in soil at certain depths. If my memory is correct that is where the no deeper than 18" comes in

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

I have previously only amended my native soil with lime and perlite prior to planting. And I mixed that shit in pretty close to the dates I was planting. Way less than a month in advance, sometimes the day of/before.

This year I'm going to amend the soil with pulverized lime (fastest acting lime I've heard of), diatomaceous earth, earthworm castings, and insect frass. Will that be too hot to put germinated seeds into right away?

FWIW my planting method is digging a little hole in the middle of the hole, and filling that with my "seedling mix" which is 1 part FoxFarm Ocean Forest and 2 parts generic seed starter. They seem to love the mix, but as soon as their roots get going more than a few inches they're in the soil that makes up the rest of the hole.

 

[fatx]

good luck

 

[fatx]

maybe try zeolite instead of perlite.

 

[tech1234]

I have previously only amended my native soil with lime and perlite prior to planting. And I mixed that shit in pretty close to the dates I was planting. Way less than a month in advance, sometimes the day of/before.

This year I'm going to amend the soil with pulverized lime (fastest acting lime I've heard of), diatomaceous earth, earthworm castings, and insect frass. Will that be too hot to put germinated seeds into right away?

FWIW my planting method is digging a little hole in the middle of the hole, and filling that with my "seedling mix" which is 1 part FoxFarm Ocean Forest and 2 parts generic seed starter. They seem to love the mix, but as soon as their roots get going more than a few inches they're in the soil that makes up the rest of the hole.

DT any reason you are watering in nutes (read your thread) rather than building season long growth sustaining soil or using a time release nute? It could really cut down on your work and times needed to visit your sites

 

[Gizmo]

hello guys ! how are you ?

@ tech1234, could you share a good soil recipe who worked for you please ? i have a few recipes but im always interested to know what others use and your plants were very beautiful so your soil recipe should be very good.

@ DuskrayTroubador, i read your thread too and it was a great grow, beautiful plants, crazy about the bear visit, i will be very interested if you could share some quick smoke report/ feedback on the strains your grew specialy the spontanica, i was interested in this strain along with KC33, leda uno, and TNR but i choose leda uno because its was a bit earlier and maybe with a bit more potency basing on other outdoor growers experience. Do you found the spontanica fems to be homogenous ? you were the first grower i saw growing KC brains fems, i have ordered a 10 seeds pack of leda uno fems, i hope the germination ratio will be as good as you, 3/4 for you if i remember well.

Maybe you could add an organic fertilizer to the soil it will help a lot but if you just add some worm casting i dont think your soil will be very very hot, depending how many worm casting you will add and your native soil. 10% high quality worm casting is good. personally in your case i will build a quality soil mix using the native soil, some organic well balanced fertilizer mix for flower or tomatoes/strawberry ferts, 10% worm casting, perlite, some guano high in P, and adjust the pH of the soil if necessary with maerl/lithothamne/dolomite lime. i will plant the very young plants in a seedling mix and dig a hole of approximatly 4 liters and fill the hole with a soil mix stronger than your seedling mix (like some biobizz all mix for example) but less strong than the quality mix. so 3 soil mix.

Another thing maybe and please take it as a grower friendly advice for your security and not a negative criticism at all, its about your security, i saw some electric poles in your pics, if you can, plant each plant in a separate plot, it will be more stealth than many plants put together.

@ fatx thank you, finally i will keep the perlite idea but will hide the soil with dried plants from the growing area and some stones on the top against the wind.