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When BHO Goes Horribly Wrong
- Thread starter Sam Selezny
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Yeah, was poor word choice in retrospect (That's why I edited my post yesterday evening), meant some people find it necessary to extract in unusual situations, in no way trying to justify or condone these happenings, just observing that they do occur (as the last few posts make extremely evident).
rubberducky
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Very dangerous. I blew myself up once very sad to say. It was my first time. And I knew all the safety precautions. And I used them. I had everything ready and I blasted it outside like your suppose too. It was a bit cold outside so it was taking quiet a while for the butane to evaporate. I would say there was maybe half cup at the very most still in the dish evapping. The wind picked up a bit and I thought "that's not much left to evap I'll take it inside so the wind doesn't blow any small particles Into it. I set it on the counter. And went back a few minutes later and picked it up cause the house the kitchen smelled like butane too much. But too late as soon as I picked it up a big ass flame ball erupted I had no arm are and my lips and tip of my nose and my thump up the side of my arm was nice and blistery. This happened from about 1/4 definitely less then half a cup of butane being evaped in a closed space.
Unlike blasting with an open tube, a Mk III is a fully enclosed sealed system, so ostensibly it isn't a problem, unless something goes wrong, goes wrong, goes wrong.............
For that reason, we run the Mk III outdoors.
We built a spark free exhaust enclosure for the fully automated Mk II Terpenator, so that even if a leak occurs, it is rapidly exhausted to keep concentration below combustible limits and there are no ignition sources.
The exhaust cabinet is also in a separate stand alone building, separate from any dwellings, and the ceiling panels are designed to blow out, before the walls.
I don't expect any problems, but if they do occur, I want them to be covered.
About an instant 3578F, which is hot enough to melt steel.
J
JimmyRow
another reason i cant wait to get my lil terp ( i might go more hard core) built.
im considering building an indoor office/ lab/ kitchen and looking for some info on sparkless exhaust and what kind of investment we are talkng
im considering building an indoor office/ lab/ kitchen and looking for some info on sparkless exhaust and what kind of investment we are talkng
butane... out of the can in a pyrex dish is constantly evaporating... creating a combustible vapor... so any spark in the vicinity (20 ft or more mayb) of the pyrex dish can ignite the vapor and then the butane in the dish...
id say unless u have serious equipment like gray wolf any bootleg bho production MUST be done outdoors... unless u want to risk an explosion.
id say unless u have serious equipment like gray wolf any bootleg bho production MUST be done outdoors... unless u want to risk an explosion.
ive seen butane in a pyrex dish ignite from the flame of a propane grill that was at least 30ft away, outdoors...
not a butane explosion, but isopropanol!
Check out these homies, dey show you to do it real right mang.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYIFNX_n7U
Isotards?
Check out these homies, dey show you to do it real right mang.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYIFNX_n7U
Isotards?
How did they buy so many cans without drawing attention to themselves? And, 15-ounce cans would be butane fuel for camp stoves, etc., not lighter butane, is there no mercaptan in butane fuel? I agree, sickest story yet....
Here a fellow has enough smarts to do it outside and even have a column he doesn't have to hold and I believe something to keep the can pushed down on the top to continue releasing the butane. Essentially a hands free open blasting column, well he managed to create a big enough spark from picking up a stainless steel thermous full of hot water to ignite it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7RmGnguT4
be careful everyone, expect everthing, assume nothing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7RmGnguT4
be careful everyone, expect everthing, assume nothing.
I use Staticide anti-stat, "eliminates static electricity" in the vicinity and a three layer ESD anti-static mat under my immediate extraction area. I also take my shoes and socks off and wear 100% cotton clothing. And still...
This one spooked me so I watched it a couple of more times, he seems to have had the hot water pot plugged in (notice it's plugged into an extension cord in the backround.) I think a good guess would be he heard the water coming to a boil, and when he picked up the pot the safety switch that cuts out the electricity when the pot isn't sitting down sparked.
maybe start a thread with links to bho explosions and we can sticky it as midwestHIGHS recommended earlier?
Evaporated butane falls down. Exhaust table-top takes it from below?
In a word, no.
"Petroleum ether seems to be the solvent of choice for laboratory extraction, but the consensus among amateur alchemists is that the fire hazard is too high. An examination of the flash points and N.F.P.A. health and fire hazard identification signals shows that every solvent has some serious drawback. The low-boiling solvents are almost explosive;the nonflammable solvents are more poisonous. The researcher appears to have the choice of risking death by fire or by liver and kidney damage, preceded by narcosis in both cases."
From Solvent Notes, Cannabis Alchemy by D. Gold
I designed ours, which works by pressurizing the sealed cabinet from the top, with open vents along the floor at ground level. The air exchange rate is once every three seconds and the ceiling and roof panels are designed to lift off before the walls flatten.
You might consider building the room out of fireproof cinder block, and sprinklering it to make the fire marshal happy.
True story, butane is heavier than air, so we pressurize from above and vent from the bottom, so that we could use an existing fan that isn't explosion proof.
That would be the bubble hash section, which is a safe technique for noobies, especially those who don't follow directions well, or are unable to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Hot vegetable oil and glycerin will also extract the cannabinoids and other terpenes.
You can also vaporize the resins and re-condense them again, avoiding all solvent.
All of those methods will produce a tasty effective product, but not the same as what you get using an alkane or alcohol, nor as potent per unit volume.
