Whats your favorite ACE strain for daily use?

[OZZ_]

Man what valuable info, I appreciate everyone that is participating in this thread!

Ur Humble - I remember ACE having a straight green haze. Is that simply a worked green pheno of the OTH??

Bacon - I think ThaiBliss is the one that had the “search for trip weed” thread that was all Zamaldelica, wasn’t it?? Ill have to look into Solar’s OTH thread. Ive never really seen a grow log on it at all. Not that I can remember anyway.

Saray - I cant say Ive ever had herb that had no come down to speak of, although Ive heard people talk of it. I read the Ethiopian thread and that got me very interested, although to be fair every damn time I read a thread I just end up wanting that strain to, which is why I have about 70% of ACEs catalogue by now LOL. I’m about done though, because I need to get to popping and sorting through these beans to decide which lines I want to keep permanently. Something with zero comedown sounds super intriguing.

Anyone try the pure Honduras line?

 

[baconman1945]

Man what valuable info, I appreciate everyone that is participating in this thread!

...I think ThaiBliss is the one that had the “search for trip weed” thread that was all Zamaldelica, wasn’t it?? Ill have to look into Solar’s OTH thread. Ive never really seen a grow log on it at all. Not that I can remember anyway.

...Anyone try the pure Honduras line?

Thanks for starting it! Yeah, TB has two threads with similar names. Both great reads. So many knowledgeable and experienced growers and consumers around here!

Solar's thread is here: Nevil's haze x Panama, Purple Satellite, Honduran x Panama, OTH Outdoors/Greenhouse

He started it for 2019's season and picked it up recently for this year. He actually grew quite a few Honduras x Panamas. I'm only halfway through the thread so not sure how it ended up, but he was doing some selection, seedmaking and crossing with everything he was growing. I'm in September, and it's a great read with some gorgeous plants.

 

[dubi]

Nice thread Thanks OZZ_

If i had to choose only one it will be Thai Chi, i love everything about her.

Guess it is also convenient to suggest based on chemotypes. For high CBD/low THC chemotype: CBD #1.

For more balanced THC/CBD chemotypes: Lebanese for sativa and ErdPurt hybrids for indica.

For THC strains is really difficult just to name one having so many to choose from. But for constant daily use and to still be functional i like pure Honduras, pure Ethiopian and Oldtimer's Haze green phenos for the reasons mentioned here by many of you .... these tropical sativas make you feel uplifted, motivated, happy, enhancing all the activities, and the effects fade away in a super clean way, without leaving you foggy, demotivated, sedated or lazy.

Thanks for sharing your opinions Love to read all your comments!

 

[OZZ_]

Thanks for starting it! Yeah, TB has two threads with similar names. Both great reads. So many knowledgeable and experienced growers and consumers around here!

Solar's thread is here: Nevil's haze x Panama, Purple Satellite, Honduran x Panama, OTH Outdoors/Greenhouse

He started it for 2019's season and picked it up recently for this year. He actually grew quite a few Honduras x Panamas. I'm only halfway through the thread so not sure how it ended up, but he was doing some selection, seedmaking and crossing with everything he was growing. I'm in September, and it's a great read with some gorgeous plants.

Excellent. Thanks for the link... Ill read through it Ive been looking for more reading material anyway! Although I know right now if I read it Ill probably be waiting that cross too.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Man what valuable info, I appreciate everyone that is participating in this thread!

Ur Humble - I remember ACE having a straight green haze. Is that simply a worked green pheno of the OTH??

Yes, green pheno from OTH. I believe newest releases of OTH lean heavily towards green phenos.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Nice thread Thanks OZZ_

If i had to choose only one it will be Thai Chi, i love everything about her.

Have to look at that one some day, dubi!

 

[OZZ_]

Nice thread Thanks OZZ_

If i had to choose only one it will be Thai Chi, i love everything about her.

Guess it is also convenient to suggest based on chemotypes. For high CBD/low THC chemotype: CBD #1.

For more balanced THC/CBD chemotypes: Lebanese for sativa and ErdPurt hybrids for indica.

For THC strains is really difficult just to name one having so many to choose from. But for constant daily use and to still be functional i like pure Honduras, pure Ethiopian and Oldtimer's Haze green phenos for the reasons mentioned here by many of you .... these tropical sativas make you feel uplifted, motivated, happy, enhancing all the activities, and the effects fade away in a super clean way, without leaving you foggy, demotivated, sedated or lazy.

Thanks for sharing your opinions Love to read all your comments!

Awesome. I scored some Thai Chi on your last release, I haven’t really caught up on the recent grows by folks around here though, Ill have to pop back into the thread and see if there’s any updates.

Also this only adds to the OTH recommendations already coursing through this thread’s veins. I cant imagine growing a 20 week strain inside but I suppose it would be quite the challenge. I’ll definitely have to look into Solars threads posted above. I’d like to try it eventually but I need more practice to dial things in before taking on something like that.

Thanks for the suggestions all!

 

[Dr.King]

I would tend to agree with the others on OTH. I actually preferred the golden OTH which is a mixture I guess of the purple and green. After a 6 months cure boy did it send me off flying into another world. Hands down the best cannabis I've ever smoked after a good cure. Have pictures in my albums if interested. Happy growing.

 

[Fronk]

Oaxaca x Panama is the dream day weed for me but more so in the morning. It’s uplifting, super friendly but keeps getting you higher the more you smoke, lovely visuals as in everything just looks good.
It’s also fairly airy so much easier on the lungs in joints. (I’ll review it properly when it’s cured).
I had a Thai leaning pheno for zamaldelica x Kali China that was fantastic for daily use when used in moderation.
Full steam, sharp and absolutely no come down.(only 1 pheno was like that).
I also enjoy Congo x Panama for daily use but also In moderation as you can get a little uncomfortable when having too much.
Hope this can help someone.

 

[deepwaterdude]

Lots of stuff I still haven't grown, but these days I start with a 2 year old Zamaldelica x Panama which is very light and good for activities, then the only other strain I have at the moment, C5 x Kali China, is my nighttime hitter. That's all I have at the moment. I very much miss having Panama Haze around, an all time favorite. If she gone, it's that she was a very sweet balance of the above two. Love to do a pure OTH...

 

[RED 1]

ErdPurt hybrids!
Bubba Kush X Nepalese Jam
If I had enough for the summer season, wouldn't mind this one strain for everyday use for the next 5 months or so
An indica

 

[OZZ_]

........ and another vote for OTH from Dr King.

Really says something when so many people report similar experiences.

Fronk- Ive been eyeing those Oaxacan crosses. I’m going to hold off and let Dubi and the ACE crew do their magic with that line though. I could be off base here as I’m just guessing, but I believe they will be releasing some great projects with it in the future as they further refine and selectively breed.

Hey DWD- Ive never heard anyone refer to Zamaldelica or its crosses as light, but I suppose with the right pheno anything is possible in a poly hybrid like that.

Red- Nice vote on the Indicas. I can see the Bubba x NJ being a heavy hitting, yet kind effect.

 

[Koondense]

Oaxaca x Panama
Panama x BangiHaze

Both highs are very functional, inspiring and creative, OaxPan is a bit more mellow/easy going compared to the at times crazy Panama x BangiHaze.
I didn't try OTH yet but I'm having an ongoing selection of Original Haze and Panama x Original Haze plants, will be able to know more about "haze" in the autumn. I guess OTH is in the same league as OH, a clean space sativa. Probably Bangi Haze comes closest among most other "fast" sativas.

Cheers

 

[repuk]

I didn't have the chance to smoke pure honduras, but some offspring from open pollination honduras x ethiopian, and wouldn't say that's daytime weed when cured, was rather potent and introspective and left you ready for relax, nap or bedtime. Loved her at afternoon.

Liked pure ethiopian a lot for daytime even coming from a heavily seeded plant, jar flew. Was also the favourite of my son (low tolerance, calmer character), and he was able to try some variety...

Guess your choice of daytime weed also depends on how is your "usual" mood... I tend to the side of nervous and impatient, so love Lebanese for its balanced, ying-yang effect.

Mellow, gentle high but no ceiling if you keep on smoking, with instant body/head/sight well-being.

Cannot wait to try OTH... will love anything but is actually the Golden (Colombian) pheno what I would give my left nut for

Won't be able either to try Nepal Mist this grow (two males), but remember back when I had low tolerance, loved Kali Mist for daytime.

Saving pollen from the NMs in fact to hit the OTH female, as OTH x NM sounds like a killer cross for daytime.

I usually divide "daytime" weed into two categories: normal, and laser-focus.

Laser focus are usually rushier, so you feel some logical tiredness from brain-speeding when landing. I love to use them when there's problem-solving involved and not mechanical chores.

I had one S1 from Panama Haze (which can fail into this laser-focus category) that was completely green, and had some panama resemblance. It's already gone.... superb laser-focus weed, stimulant Haze crosses usually has this effect on me.

The kind of weed that makes you change plans and chew on whatever task/chore you were procastrinating and work on it until finished.

 

[deepwaterdude]

........ and another vote for OTH from Dr King.

Hey DWD- Ive never heard anyone refer to Zamaldelica or its crosses as light, but I suppose with the right pheno anything is possible in a poly hybrid like that.

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Morning, OZZ, I took this one I would say 3-4 weeks early after hermying it pretty good. It was the amazon of the bunch (my Sea Urchin from previous pics), or maybe the East German finally, but I digress, massive flowers and looked/smelled like a winner. I think I had light timer problems that year, which doesn't narrow it down much. I still have a neglected tub of her that I go to for morning coffee and outdoor activities like flyfishing. Does not dumb me down one bit and is like some sort of spicy breeze. Very easy on the lungs.
Also, I have not met a Panama cross that did not have great compassion. Always very kind, even if up. I'm probably smoking a bit of this bud right now

 

[repuk]

I don't think there's a better smoke to enjoy nature (or anything involving your sight sense, like doing photography, painting, hiking...) than Zamaldelica.

Couldn't agree more with you deepwaterdude, the Panama high is soo embracing, gentle, positive and warm! I also have fond memories of my pure Panama... I let it go well ripe, and yes at "landing" sometimes I felt for a nap, but that was because me indulging too much into that yummy fizzy/hazey sour lemon taste... used to roll two doobies minimum from her, always wanted more and more. Mine wasn't the red pistils pheno which I think is more intense.

But don't recall her as wearing me out unless I smoked doobie after doobie after doobie. I think the easeness of rolling had something to do too, but I was constantly reaching for the jars.

That Panama looks killer deepwaterdude!

So... cannot wait to try the Zamaldelica x Panama I'm currently growing!

 

[OZZ_]

Koon- I bet those Oaxacan crosses will be superb depending on the other genetic donor. Absolutely! Ive been watching the R&D section pretty closely. I could be WAY off base here but I’m betting on Dubi and the ACE crew putting out a refined version before long. I was thinking I would wait until they worked their magic on it, but that line is very tempting for sure.

DWD/Repuk - I’m definitely signed up for a big Zamaldelica run after the move. Which, on a side note, we just put an offer in on a house a few days ago, it got accepted and we are moving into closing so we are all set to go. Ill have a nice 12x14’ room all to my own. Grow tents will be getting set up left and right LMAO.

Repuk, that’s completely different than my experience with Panama, but mine is the red/pink pheno. It’s quite intense, definitely psychedelic.... and in fact very disasociative for me with a fairly hard comedown. Not like a heavy Indica... but more psychological. It’s hard to explain. Almost like a mental crash. From your descriptions I’m thinking that Green Panama Goddess must have very different properties, as your not the only one that describes her that way. I think Ill run a Green Panama goddess pheno next, in one of the other flower tents Ill have going so I can compare them without much time apart from the two grows. I have the breeders pack of Panama so have fems from the Different phenos separated, quite handy for getting to know a strain.

The pink pistil pheno I have is a bit mentally heavy to smoke on a daily basis for me, but the only two strains I have harvested and jarred are a knockout drag out couchlock narcosis inducing Indica and this Panama *red*. Lol ... hence the reason for this thread.

Definitely need to try out that green pheno then. Plans aren’t entirely solidified yet but I believe Ill have 3 separate flowering tents. A 4x8 flowering for pheno hunting, a 3x3 and the 2x2 I just got done setting up. I like the idea of having separate smaller flowering tents to do one or two plants at a time separated. Ill also put in two 4x2’s one for moms and one for veg/clones. Not entirely sure just yet, maybe Ill just stick with the one tent but I already have the 3x3 and 2x2 so might as well use them

With that setup I should be able to get to it and work my way through all these genetics Ive acquired over the last 5-10 years. BTW repuk, the KA5H is recovering fantastically. I added some circulation fans inside the tent and the light is still dimmed down, but she perked right up the minute I put in those extra fans and got some air moving around.

So not to steer this thread off track but my point being, I need something that’s kinder or clearer (I’m not quite sure which) to have as daily smoke. Getting my psyche bashed around on a daily basis by a heavy hitter or mind f$ck type isn’t going to cut it. Dont get me wrong, I like those kind of effects but its a time and place type of thing. They will be reserved for weekends or special occasions not to go with my morning oatmeal. That pure Ethiopian might be what the doctor ordered.

 

[repuk]

Plans aren’t entirely solidified yet but I believe Ill have 3 separate flowering tents. A 4x8 flowering for pheno hunting, a 3x3 and the 2x2 I just got done setting up. I like the idea of having separate smaller flowering tents to do one or two plants at a time separated. Ill also put in two 4x2’s one for moms and one for veg/clones. Not entirely sure just yet, maybe Ill just stick with the one tent but I already have the 3x3 and 2x2 so might as well use them

Heheh you got the ACE bite!

I was in your position like 4-5 months ago (always micro till last couple years), and thought in that same direction. Ended up doing a radically different setup and I couldn't be happier, enjoying the grows more than ever. Check my "Goes to the jungle" thread for some inspiration.

Definitely having breeder packs to test specific phenos is priceless!! (as so is dubi's input!!)

 

[OZZ_]

Heheh you got the ACE bite!

I was in your position like 4-5 months ago (always micro till last couple years), and thought in that same direction. Ended up doing a radical different setup and I couldn't be happier, enjoying the grows more than ever. Check my "Goes to the jungle" thread for some inspiration.

Definitely having breeder packs to test specific phenos is priceless!! (as so is dubi's input!!)

Perfect Repuk, Ill definitely check out that thread for sure and I’d admit you can say that, about having the ACE bite lmao.

I just got another pack in directly from ACE. Purple Honduras Haze regs, Purple Malawi Regs, and Honduras Breeze Fems. Also I have another pack in route with some fresh Zamaldelica fems and regs. I still have a pack of regs from back in 2015 but wanted the newer refined version as well so when I get all set up Ill be popping probably the 5 ZD fems as well as the 5 regs and hunting through those for the first run. Then I’m thinking Ill pop the pack from back in 2015 and compare the keepers from the first run to the second run.

Zamaldelica, from what I hear, is far from the easy relaxing daily smoke that I started this thread for, but that’s what the 3x3 and 2x2 tents are for after all.... I think it makes sense, dont you??

Maybe Ill throw a Nepal Jam in there or a Bangi Haze and see if I can find that daily toker that I so badly need.

 

[repuk]

Had to add that I'm growing CBD#1, and one of the purposes is to test her as daytime, functional weed, while still taking the stress/edges off the day to day and feel cool.

My tolerance is huuuge, and thought that sparing some THC may lower it.

Have some Orient Express x CBD #1 I'll for surely run outdoors for similar purpose.