Whats wrong?

[tasteez]

Hello,

I have been smoking since I was 16, I am now 21. Within the last year or two I've noticed some things after smoking, and it has gradually gotten worse. I am not a grower, or medical user, I simply started smoking for recreational use and now it has become an everyday event, as many of you probably know.

I'm not sure when this started, probably about a year or two ago.

But whenever I smoke, I find it hard to concentrate on anything. Almost like I am diagnosed with a serious condition of ADD every time I get high. If I am reading a book, or something on the computer, I will get through 1 sentence and then my mind will wander into something completely unrelated. If I am having a conversation with someone, I will start thinking about something completely unrelated and basically have to ask the person what they just said.

It's like I can't focus my thoughts enough, my thoughts just race uncontrollably.

There are also times where I will be so deep in thought that I literally hear nothing around me, like my ears are on "mute". My friends sometimes will yell at me to snap me out of it. And afterward, once I snap out of it, I have no idea what was happening when I was lost in thought, almost clueless of what had just happened.


I notice this happens every time I get high, and all day after I get high.

If I do not smoke for a day, I really do not notice these symptoms.
But that is extremely difficult to do, since I have been smoking regularly for 4 or more years.

I want to get high everyday, but every time I think about it, I think about these symptoms, and reconsider. Sometimes I can pull through and not smoke, but most of the time I give in and do smoke. But afterward regret it slightly because I can't concentrate on anything.


The bud I smoke is always high grade, I am from Michigan, USA... I am assuming most of our stuff comes from Canada. I do not smoke beasters very often, it's usually commercial "chronic" that goes for $300/oz.

Does anyone have a similar problem? Or know anyone who does?
What should I do? Is there anything I can do to make this stop? Or is the best idea to give up smoking?

Thank you,
k

 

[tasteez]

Let me add that my racing thoughts are really bad...

Sometimes I feel like there is a voice inside my head...

I really don't know how to explain it


A lot of times at night, when I am laying in bed falling asleep (high, of course), my mind will just race and I will think about everything that happened that day. Almost like I am going through a check list of my day's events, reflecting on everything that happened.

But the thoughts aren't just events that happened that day. I will also think about things that happened in the past, years ago, and reflect on them.

I close my eyes and try to make it stop, but its nearly impossible. They just continue.


I use pot to cope with my life... if I have a stressful day, the first thing I want to do is get high. Because it makes it easier. If something is bothering me, I can smoke and feel nice, completely forgetting about what was bothering me. But it isn't just to relieve stress, I also enjoy smoking, it's been a social event with my friends and I for years.
This is why it's so difficult to give up.

Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there something other than pot I can try to relieve myself of worries and stress?
Something that will not send my mind into a mind-race of thoughts?

Maybe alcohol? Pills of any sort??

 

[SCF]

Sounds like you have a addiction problem. And this is a medical forum to discuss the medical benefits of Medical Marijuana. I would get some help as it sounds like you may have some serious Issues at hand. And probably quit smoking marijuana.

SCF

 

[asa42]

wasnt aware the den was restricted to medical dicussions...

either way, tasteez sounds odd to me what you are experiencing. but i know it does folks differently. from what you've put i'd suggest toking when ya dont need to concentrate a lot, like night time. personally if herb wont help, pills or alcohol would be worse. coarse that's me...

 

[tasteez]

Sounds like you have a addiction problem. And this is a medical forum to discuss the medical benefits of Medical Marijuana. I would get some help as it sounds like you may have some serious Issues at hand. And probably quit smoking marijuana.

SCF

An addiction? You and I both know being addicted to marijuana is impossible.
I told you I can go without, it's just a way of dealing with stress, and socializing with my friends.
I've gone entire days without smoking, and had no signs of an addiction, no withdrawal or anything like that... so I do NOT consider this an addiction.
If I have an addiction, so does every user on this website, including yourself.

I do not have serious issues, when I'm not stoned I can function normally like anyone else... it's just when I smoke I come down with this and find it extremely hard to concentrate on something.

When I get stoned I like to just sit and watch tv, or do something simple. As I explained, when I try to have a conversation with someone I just find my mind wandering onto different subjects, and accidentally ignore the person talking to me..not on purpose of course.
But when I'm not stoned I don't have these problems... I'm not sure why you think I have serious issues and need help... it's only when I get stoned.

wasnt aware the den was restricted to medical dicussions...

either way, tasteez sounds odd to me what you are experiencing. but i know it does folks differently. from what you've put i'd suggest toking when ya dont need to concentrate a lot, like night time. personally if herb wont help, pills or alcohol would be worse. coarse that's me...

I thought the medical forum was the best place, I had a hard time deciding where to put the post.

Your right, it does effect everyone differently. And smoking late at night is a good idea, I usually do that anyways. I usually don't smoke before I have to go do something important, or go out in the "real world".

I'm going to try drinking instead and see if it's any better.

I'm surprised I didn't get any replies, there has to be someone else like this... do you suggest posting in another forum?

 

[fully baked]

I do not have serious issues, when I'm not stoned I can function normally like anyone else... it's just when I smoke I come down with this and find it extremely hard to concentrate on something.

When I get stoned I like to just sit and watch tv, or do something simple. As I explained, when I try to have a conversation with someone I just find my mind wandering onto different subjects, and accidentally ignore the person talking to me..not on purpose of course.
But when I'm not stoned I don't have these problems... I'm not sure why you think I have serious issues and need help... it's only when I get stoned.

Seems like you've answered your own question here. These things are happening only when your stoned and you want them to stop. A little catch-22ish. You don't wanna have these symptoms anymore, but you don't want to quit either. Take a break and see if it helps.

The herb is a great tool for relaxation, exploration, and medicine, but if it is no longer serving its purpose, and isn't any fun, then what's the point?? Seems kinda counter-productive to me.

Hope it works out for you...

 

[yohomz]

Kinda sounds like an anxiety attack??? I dunno, like asa said it does everyone differently. Maybe you shouldn't smoke when you need to concentrate. Maybe you shouldn't smoke at all.

 

[greenhead]

But when I'm not stoned I don't have these problems... I'm not sure why you think I have serious issues and need help... it's only when I get stoned.

Well the problem is that you're always stoned, and you said yourself that you can't even handle a normal conversation when stoned. People react to weed in different ways. So if you're always going to be stoned, then those things that you are talking about will keep on happening.

 

[tasteez]

Well the problem is that you're always stoned, and you said yourself that you can't even handle a normal conversation when stoned. People react to weed in different ways. So if you're always going to be stoned, then those things that you are talking about will keep on happening.

When did I say I am always stoned? I actually wait until the late afternoon or evening to smoke.

I can handle a conversation, the pot just makes my mind wander onto different things. It usually happens when the conversation isn't very interesting.

Kinda sounds like an anxiety attack??? I dunno, like asa said it does everyone differently. Maybe you shouldn't smoke when you need to concentrate. Maybe you shouldn't smoke at all.

I do get anxiety attacks at times, but these aren't, my mind just simply races into thoughts of all directions.

Your right, I shouldn't smoke if I have important things to do. But not smoking at all is a challenge... I still enjoy getting high, it's just I can't do everything I may want to when I am high, such as being very social or reading a book. Sitting in front of a movie or TV show is just fine, as all I am required to do is watch.

Seems like you've answered your own question here. These things are happening only when your stoned and you want them to stop. A little catch-22ish. You don't wanna have these symptoms anymore, but you don't want to quit either. Take a break and see if it helps.

The herb is a great tool for relaxation, exploration, and medicine, but if it is no longer serving its purpose, and isn't any fun, then what's the point?? Seems kinda counter-productive to me.

Hope it works out for you...

Your right, and I know. If I want it to stop, I shouldn't smoke. But that is hard to do.. could you just up and quit smoking? Probably not.

I never said it isn't fun, or I don't think I did... it's still fun to get stoned. I just don't like to be social when I am stoned, or do anything that requires my mind to be straight.

Actually, one of my favorite things to do is sit in front of the TV with a bowl and just relax.

I don't mind it when I am just relaxing in front of a movie or TV, but if I have to go out in the real world it is a living hell because my mind is so foggy.


I understand it is the smoking causing the problems, and quitting smoking is the only 100% solution...however I wanted to post here to see if anyone has similar experiences and has found a cause, or solution, besides giving up the herb completely.

I still love to smoke, I really do, it's just I can't do a whole lot stoned... I'm sort of like a couch potato/vegetable when stoned...you can talk, it goes in one ear and out the other. And as I said my mind wanders so much I can barely read a paragraph without thinking about something else.

LOL, it actually makes me laugh to think about all this... hahahaha, i have smoked too much havn't I... am I a burnout or soemthing?

 

[drunkenstoner]

you might be schizophrenic by the sounds of it , i think u have some symptons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

 

[la resistance]

But whenever I smoke, I find it hard to concentrate on anything.

It's like I can't focus my thoughts enough, my thoughts just race uncontrollably.

There are also times where I will be so deep in thought that I literally hear nothing around me, like my ears are on "mute".

A lot of times at night, when I am laying in bed falling asleep (high, of course), my mind will just race and I will think about everything that happened that day. Almost like I am going through a check list of my day's events, reflecting on everything that happened.

not sure if that's really a problem because that happens to me every time? can't focus on reading, reflect on the past often with a new outlook, and primarily focus on one of my senses... i've always considered those to be good things

 

[zomg1]

the same effects you're describing only plague me when im not high

 

[Echoes]

Disclaimer: I am not an M.D.

Disclaimer: I am not an M.D.

If it's so hard for you to stop smoking as it is now, I wouldn't recommend drinking as that is far more habit forming and dangerous. If I drank anywhere near the amount that I smoke, I'd be an alcoholic and that's a fact.

On the addiction note: I'd say that cannabis can be mildly addictive (at least for some people.) Usually it seems to be more of a mental addiction or obsession more than a physical one. Also, it seems that sometimes people can get into the habit of smoking. When you include smoking everyday in your day-to-day activity it can be tough to not think about smoking or even to go without it.

"I use pot to cope with my life... if I have a stressful day, the first thing I want to do is get high. Because it makes it easier. If something is bothering me, I can smoke and feel nice, completely forgetting about what was bothering me. But it isn't just to relieve stress, I also enjoy smoking, it's been a social event with my friends and I for years. This is why it's so difficult to give up."

Cannabis is a good way to relax, and I agree that it is useful in social situations. However, it is not the only way to manage stress and relax. Perhaps you should see a doctor about anxiety or stress?

If it were any other drug, the way you describe the difficulty of quitting and going without it, it resembles an addiction. Thankfully, you're smoking cannabis. Even if you toke all the time, it's better than taking other substances so frequently (this is why I do not suggest alcohol or pills.) Also, I'd say for $300/oz. you're probably smoking beasters or something close to it. I guess prices/location can vary, though. Where I'm from, beasters goes for $40-50 per 1/8 so that fits into the $300-$400 per oz. price range. Perhaps try finding a better strain. Maybe something low anxiety or something with more of a knock-out kick. Maybe just try to cut back on consumption or if it's really causing that much of a problem, just stop. Maybe take smaller hits or pack smaller bowls.

This whole lying in bed checklist thing doesn't sound too crazy or unnatural. I do it almost every night. I find it hard to sleep some nights because my mind just won't settle down. However, this happens whether I'm high or not. This could be insomnia. One side effect of not smoking cannabis after smoking it very frequently is insomnia. The going deaf thing, however, does sound rather strange and you may want to lay off for a little while. I can't say that I've ever experienced such a thing when smoking.

I'm not sure what else to say, really. Change your regimen/strain, lower your doses or just stop completely. Most people here are just trying to help. This is the only solid advice I can really think of.

 

[JJScorpio]

Doesn't seem like a problem to me. It sounds like you're making it a problem by worrying. Everybodys different. I don't smoke when I have something to do that takes a lot of thought. I like to smoke and relax.....

Theres nothing wrong with smoking and just kicking back and not wanting to have conversations and let the thoughts wander. Instead of enjoying it you're causing yourself worry. Just go with it. If you keep worrying when you're smoking pretty soon you'll start having panic attacks.

 

[subrob]

heres my two cents- after years i have come to the conclusion that cannabis is not a "downer" as the fed docs would have us believe- i feel that for me cannabis is a "magnifier" of sorts- when my head is not on straight-or when i am in a bad place in my life, smoking can sometimes help, but often times it will make me dwell on whatever is not in order in my life. when things are good-well, I do the same thing. If i have a lot of things to get done-smoke out on the indie and sit around doin nothing-i dwell on it. try using your smokeouts on a reward only basis for awhile, so that when you become contemplative, its all good cuz you feel you accomplished everything for the day you needed to. sometimes a minor change like that can change perspective. shit, now i gotta go do some chores....shouldnt have hit the GDP.......sub

 

[tenfeetofganja]

Doesn't seem like a problem to me. It sounds like you're making it a problem by worrying. Everybodys different. I don't smoke when I have something to do that takes a lot of thought. I like to smoke and relax.....

Exactly. I smoke quite often (a couple times per day) and my consumption is about a half ounce to an ounce a week. But I dont go in to work high because it is not safe/responsible. Just like drinking. I like a couple drinks, but I would surely not go into work after drinking.

If you keep the wake&bake's until after working hours, you will feel much more accomplished, not to mention that first smoke of the day always knocks yah on yer ass..

TenFooT

ps. herb isnt for everyone. maybe 5 years is 5 too many>>??

 

[Crazy Composer]

I used to have the same effects when my system was still not used to cannabis. After a while I found that in order to have my cake and eat it too, I simply tried harder to be mentally present when I was high.

Also, smoking copious amounts of the finest herbs, all the time, made me almost immune to pot smoking. That helped. hehehe It takes a special situation with good, strong herb to get me stoned now.

I believe a large part of the body's tolerance for weed comes from practicing having clear thoughts while stoned. It's entirely possible to clear your head when stoned, you just have to grit yer teeth and gather your thoughts.

I was editor of a newspaper when I first started smoking excessive amounts of uberdank (I owned the business so I could do what I wanted to). I simply had to learn to cut though the fog, no matter what. It is possible to keep it together, at least that's my experience.

 

[StoneByName]

Hmm, as others said it's probably a good idea to take a little break and reflect a bit and see if the problems disappear, all of the things that were troubling you may not all be caused by the ganj e.g. I often think a lot before I go to sleep, it is annoying but I haven't smoked bud in a while tbh. Maybe you think a lot at night because when you have problems you smoke and forget them, maybe they resurface at night and bother you. Either way, you won't really know what is causing your problems until you take a little break of like a week or so and observe whether all this stuff goes away or not. Btw I wouldn't take alcohol or pills instead, much more damaging than weed and would probably just create new problems... Gd luck on feeling better

 

[Sheriff Bart]

yea start meditation
tighten the reigns on your mind
dont let it get away form you
its yours afterall

 

[NOKUY]

like sum said ....cut back or quit for a bit and get your head together.

it's not hard to stop smoking weed...not for me anyway.

once you get your head back on straight then find the level of intoxication that doesnt make you a whak job.

good luck