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Whats the Counter for this?

Some1uKnoOf

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1) Don't grow in an area where there are many indoor grow-ops. This stops the risk because the cops can't justify the equipment.

2) Study the supreme court decision for Kyllo vs. United States. It says that using thermal imaging needs a court order in the United States and cops can't just fly over a town with a fancy camera while doing a random thermal search. Other countries may vary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States


3) Don't put your grow room against an outside wall in the house. If you don't warm the wall, they can't see it.

4) Set up your venting so that it doesn't all come out in a visible spot. Blow the hot air into the crawl space and let it mix with outside air before it actually goes outside. Cool it off before it can be seen. Cool the heated air off by diluting it with colder air from outside.

5) Limit the amount of wattage you burn. 1000 watts isn't going to show up . 5000 watts might. The film said growers were stealing $2000 per month of electricity. How much wattage is that? I think it is around 30 or 40 bulbs that are one kwatt. Dumb and greedy.

6) Don't put out heat where it melts snow. It is obvious what is going on when all houses on the street have snow on the roof and you do not. It is even worse when there is a nice rectangular spot on your roof with no snow and the rest is covered with snow.

7) Thermal imagers see warm surfaces, not warm air. Don't present a warm surface in a place or scale that would invite curiosity. Push the heated air up through the chimney where it would be expected. Duh.

8) Watch your humidity exhaust. If you grow, the plants are evaporating water. When water vapor hits the cold air, it condenses and is visible. Humidity will also cause rot in wood, so don't blow it into the walls or rafters.

9) Don't grow next to a school zone like the dealer at the start of that clip. That's just legally risky and adds about 2,000 eyeballs and 1,000 noses that look at your location five days a week. Rent an old barn out in the county, far away from others.

10) If you are really paranoid, buy a thermal camera and conduct your own scan to know your risk. If you grow that much weight, you can afford to buy this kind of insurance.
 

Toomp

Member
This Guy House was Glowing! They called his House a Christmas Tree. The whole Basement was Lit up and the Chimney where he exhausted I guess.
 

cashmunny

Member
The countermeasure is MLI, multi layer insulation. It is used in space satellites as thermal shielding. It is aluminized mylar. The same stuff you use to increase reflectivity of walls in grow rooms. The principle is that of a heat shield. Multiple layers (important to use multiple layers) of aluminized mylar stapled to your attic ceiling with gaps in between layers will block the infrared.

The rest of the house should be air conditioned of course to keep it cool so it doesn't show up on FLIR as looking different than the neighboring homes
 

boroboro

Member
They had to exhaust a whole lot of heat out of that house with the amount of power being used. Looks like two simple steps were missed:

Basement is still too hot -- i.e. much hotter than the neighbors. That's suspicious. Should have moved more heat out of the basement and into the rest of the house, and insulate the basement walls better.

Where did they exhaust all that heat? Straight up the external chimney, turning it into a heat flag just waiting to attract a pilot's attention. Better be careful with that much heat, in a cold climate, in a neighborhood where your neighbors probably can't afford to keep their homes very warm. Solution? send the heat somewhere other than up the chimney: upstairs bedrooms, open some windows, maybe get creative and dig a 6 foot tunnel from the basement to the center of the driveway. Then it would just look like a hot car engine.
 

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