What we thought we knew

[WilliamPatrickMarshall]

Make no mistakes I started growing to learn and still get high. I have now grown at least 30 plus plants over many life cycles. I have grown roughly the same number of autos and reg or feminized seeds. Now this is going to sound dumb and wrong but bare with me it will ALL MAKE SENSE. When I started Autos I lived under the notion that both autos and feminized reg buds both still live the same life cycle of development just light shortages on differences. (For the most part this seems true but is vastly different I now know). So as i dive further into autos (I grow to what space I have available) I start with the notion I can learn from this auto how to stretch and still harvest. So I grow my girls to the best of my ability and like most at this point ( I stop cause I know I can't out grow my bucket). They flip and like anyone I focus on top down(knowing like anyone I can't get longer bud cycle but can get swelling in my buds) I finished by Taking early and get proper to easy secondary bud no problem seems easy enough.(so I thought). I move on in what I'm looking for in growth(I'm no longer stretching or looking to to get proper secondary bud development. As I start my next round of autos (I came up with an inconsistent flip) as I tried to promote secondary growth( I got in proper swelling what?). At this point in my growing of autos I shouldn't of got any inconsistent growth(why). Next round I'm back to stretching so I get what I felt was optimal growth( they flip when they flip I've noticed something) as see this I put what keep really( knawing at me and any grower why did I miss) there is a direct and easy correlation I came to see(no red hair development at a certain point?) So I finish now what I think is PROPER? For optimal stretching of buds secondary growth I've got extra (weeks) of on my finish and now have a bud as pretty at both(best I can ever do right).As I discard my bucket being an auto or feminized plant she(can do no more)nothing else to achieve. But what's this(now 4 weeks later just discarded on porch) I see growth ( what the fuck) that isn't possible at all. I know I have to find out was there another round I missed ( you can't swell twice she don't develop that way). What is this? I know emediatly( mid year I had my outside girls) start my seeds waiting to show someone what I think I'm seeing. ( At this point I through all I thought I knew and grew only to what worked best) I started by stretching ( I found she didn't flip until I could no longer stretch and grow to no more room) is it that simple. I know have growth beyond my roots my buckets shouldn't do this(what is this?) She flips know I can make not only a clear distinction( look for the farthest point in on your where you see a clear distinction of red and white hairs) at what point do I cross this line? I now with certain I can harvest all( red hair developed no further but all)and get not a swell but A longer BUD Development STAGE.( Dormat hiding in a stage (why). I miss my chance to harvest( pushing why am I'm the only one to notice (watching my trichomes to see when she is exactly at the point of red hair growth past that point) EXACTLY when she is at he most optimal. WAIT WAIT(now sheWAIT(now she has red hair but only right at the point of transitioning but only on spot) I sit and over the next 1 hour ( I watch a signal being sent through my girls hair with a clear and distinct message) YOU CAN NOW ALL FINISH NOT LIGHT BUT DEVELOPMENT THOUGH A SIGNAL. And start from what I can tell this process over and over if can stretch but catch your red hair development. The same process that gave autos the ability to have no light cycle. Also gave her the ability to keep bud development down in one place and promote in another until told otherwise.(keeping under red hair development) she appears to have created many layers if light is precieved to have gotten darker or further away. She will continue to create buding points as a flash that will grow(remember the bucket) until that's signal comes regardless of what you think will continue to develop. This is as much as I know for sure the reality is I found way more than ever thought don't believe me go look at your autos and look at RED HAIR development you will come to where I am. The fact is I won't be able to recreate without HELP for four months my girls grow

 

[Creeperpark]

Make no mistakes I started growing to learn and still get high. I have now grown at least 30 plus plants over many life cycles. I have grown roughly the same number of autos and reg or feminized seeds. Now this is going to sound dumb and wrong but bare with me it will ALL MAKE SENSE. When I started Autos I lived under the notion that both autos and feminized reg buds both still live the same life cycle of development just light shortages on differences. (For the most part this seems true but is vastly different I now know). So as i dive further into autos (I grow to what space I have available) I start with the notion I can learn from this auto how to stretch and still harvest. So I grow my girls to the best of my ability and like most at this point ( I stop cause I know I can't out grow my bucket). They flip and like anyone I focus on top down(knowing like anyone I can't get longer bud cycle but can get swelling in my buds) I finished by Taking early and get proper to easy secondary bud no problem seems easy enough.(so I thought). I move on in what I'm looking for in growth(I'm no longer stretching or looking to to get proper secondary bud development. As I start my next round of autos (I came up with an inconsistent flip) as I tried to promote secondary growth( I got in proper swelling what?). At this point in my growing of autos I shouldn't of got any inconsistent growth(why). Next round I'm back to stretching so I get what I felt was optimal growth( they flip when they flip I've noticed something) as see this I put what keep really( knawing at me and any grower why did I miss) there is a direct and easy correlation I came to see(no red hair development at a certain point?) So I finish now what I think is PROPER? For optimal stretching of buds secondary growth I've got extra (weeks) of on my finish and now have a bud as pretty at both(best I can ever do right).As I discard my bucket being an auto or feminized plant she(can do no more)nothing else to achieve. But what's this(now 4 weeks later just discarded on porch) I see growth ( what the fuck) that isn't possible at all. I know I have to find out was there another round I missed ( you can't swell twice she don't develop that way). What is this? I know emediatly( mid year I had my outside girls) start my seeds waiting to show someone what I think I'm seeing. ( At this point I through all I thought I knew and grew only to what worked best) I started by stretching ( I found she didn't flip until I could no longer stretch and grow to no more room) is it that simple. I know have growth beyond my roots my buckets shouldn't do this(what is this?) She flips know I can make not only a clear distinction( look for the farthest point in on your where you see a clear distinction of red and white hairs) at what point do I cross this line? I now with certain I can harvest all( red hair developed no further but all)and get not a swell but A longer BUD Development STAGE.( Dormat hiding in a stage (why). I miss my chance to harvest( pushing why am I'm the only one to notice (watching my trichomes to see when she is exactly at the point of red hair growth past that point) EXACTLY when she is at he most optimal. WAIT WAIT(now sheWAIT(now she has red hair but only right at the point of transitioning but only on spot) I sit and over the next 1 hour ( I watch a signal being sent through my girls hair with a clear and distinct message) YOU CAN NOW ALL FINISH NOT LIGHT BUT DEVELOPMENT THOUGH A SIGNAL. And start from what I can tell this process over and over if can stretch but catch your red hair development. The same process that gave autos the ability to have no light cycle. Also gave her the ability to keep bud development down in one place and promote in another until told otherwise.(keeping under red hair development) she appears to have created many layers if light is precieved to have gotten darker or further away. She will continue to create buding points as a flash that will grow(remember the bucket) until that's signal comes regardless of what you think will continue to develop. This is as much as I know for sure the reality is I found way more than ever thought don't believe me go look at your autos and look at RED HAIR development you will come to where I am. The fact is I won't be able to recreate without HELP for four months my girls grow

Very interesting friend. Can you post a photo of the differences? If not on the next grow take photos so we can see the difference.

 

[WilliamPatrickMarshall]

Very interesting friend. Can you post a photo of the differences? If not on the next grow take photos so we can see the difference.

 

[WilliamPatrickMarshall]

Have pictures from other stages but you can see the veg differences in the same girl. late then a few weeks earlier

 

[WilliamPatrickMarshall]

Very interesting friend. Can you post a photo of the differences? If not on the next grow take photos so we can see the difference.

This was last grow finished around 4th of July. Started it around Christmas and First harvest was May 10th.

 

[zaprjaques]

i read the first post twice but i got lost after 'it will all make sense' both times.
what is your discovery?

 

[WilliamPatrickMarshall]

You can reflower an Autoflower. I call it Marshalling. Basically there's two ways: 1. follow Trichomes production and harvest early (before scientific optimal). This creates a whole additional stage allowing dormet and new bud growth all the way down to bottom of the plant. The next part is easy to follow but goes right into two.
2. This time we follow a different path and follow growth. Both vegetative growth and Flowering growth. The two gives you the point of harvest. The harvest and removal of all flower growth is important. Branches and all visible buds must go If you don't remove all it won't work. The removal now activates the same trait in 1. But this time it's a complete reflowering.
There's more fine points to go with both that help explain. But the pictures show 2.

 

[zaprjaques]

so basically autoflowers are not annuals?

 

[Lester Beans]

Interesting. The wall of text I wasn't willing to wade through was summed up and it seems like equatorial strains, they will flush out several re-flowerings.

My main question would be is from Christmas to July Fourth you could grow something that yields incredible, be it indica or sativa.

Nice work maximizing what you have to work with there.

 

[WilliamPatrickMarshall]

I had two harvest. That's 8 weeks of flower then harvest. 8 weeks of flower harvest. That's a big chunk. The rest was me and conditions Lights, temp, soil, nutrients just how long with setup. I grow outside for weight anything else is a joke by comparison. Not sure why you feel without reading you could answer without sounding or coming across indifferent.

 

[exoticrobotic]

what is the bucket for

 

[WilliamPatrickMarshall]

so basically autoflowers are not annuals?

It's a hidden trait. Doesn't mean that it doesn't have an end. It's a part of no longer flowering by light cycle. So as a survival mechanism it unknowingly to everyone works and sets up. All growth during veg is where it hides and sets up but it won't do this until flower has begun. So to see the difference in the two kinds of growth you must wait until then. From then on your light cycle matters. For example 24hr light prevents her from working on Veg growth. She now focuses on Flower growth. But since there is no night at certain developmental stages she will show with minimal growth never aging past a certain point. This means 24 light shows setup best. But give her a night cycle and now when dark she works the bottom of your plant(veg growth). Often coming in the form of over veg. Back to topic.

Its clear when you learn its a trait that it's always there. So then its just how to access it and that's what Marshalling is. Harvest right and it's an improved harvest. An extension of what already was not a new start but continuing with the process. Her process has given me three harvest on one plant. All satisfactory. But that like all growing takes time. Fastest next harvest is my way. Its 8 weeks. When done right it's a double harvest with buds of same size both rounds and quality.
Sorry if that's a bit more than you bargained for but in short all things die. But we all keep living and try to prosper best we can. Give her the chance and she will surprise you.

 

[CharlesU Farley]

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