What to look for when buying land for outdoor?

[hamstring]

Hey brother trout i'm an old squid I was stationed near Machias Maine ( 90 minutes east of Bangor Maine). The winters weren't as cold as they are hear in the Midwest but the seasons were shorter that's for sure.

With out trying to make political statement more of a "when I was I kid" statement.

It was an eye opener for kid who grew up hearing and therefore associating food stamps and social services to the poor, mostly minorities.

I was on the coast so not sure what the interior looks like but I'm very sure its for tough folks.
Most people on the coast clam'ed, tipped and blueberry picked along with a little state aid to get by. This was all white peeps . My first awakening at 19. i found out my world was so much larger than I thought.

 

[armedoldhippy]

a water truck going into your place might draw unwelcome attention.
an old boy near here got caught watering his plants from a water mattress in the bed of his truck. he was growing downhill from a parking overlook. if the cops had not pulled up while his hose was visible, he might still be in business...

 

[jackel]

I have a friend who has a spot he has to have water trucked in. Large tank at the top of his spot, truck fills it and leaves. Does that once a week or so. Says it costs 4-600 - month for water. So it's possible.
Closer to spring time (like now) places are almost nonexistent. Most people get em a few months ago to prep. Good luck tho.
I should mention I come from a growing community, so the water guys know their customers. And they don't give a shit about ur plants cuz they r making their money off ya.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Def. not looking at Maine or Michigan, along with growing I'm trying to keep a balanced lifestyle. Michigan is one depressing place to live and Maine is beautiful but stays cold for too long for my liking.

Ive been looking for properties for awhile now, seems the closer I look to spring the better the deal and also people are really trying to market any properties that they still do have. I have talked to a lot of flakey individuals thus far, "yeah its for lease, ill call you later" then I contact them again "oh, someone else is going to lease it" type of deals. Oh well... if its meant to be it will be. Good Vibes guys thanks.

 

[Mountain Sprout]

If you are looking in an already growing tolerant area then hauling water is not that big of a deal. Our creek went dry in July, stored water gone sometime in August, then like 60 days buying water. Late summer watering is maybe 10 gal/plant/day at 10 cents a gallon. 1 usd x 99 plants x 60 days = $6000. You can change the numbers to fit your situation. Final cost was less than $50 extra per unit.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Awesome thats exactly the information I needed, Thanks Mountain Sprout! What size pots were you running btw?

 

[Mountain Sprout]

6ft wide beds, 18" deep with toro driptape but its about the same for 100's or 300's, roughly 10 gallons a day. Some days more, some days none.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

So nobody is going to take me seriously coming from out of town.

I guess I don't really blame them, I personally wouldn't want to deal with someone unless they are standing in front of me with cash in hand. However I'm the type of person that over plans and wants to have things lined up so my transition goes smoothly and successfully.

The attitudes I've gotten from trying to find out the details on properties without actually seeing them have been very off putting. (I hope everyone that lives in the emerald triangle is not like this.) Im definitely not going to give someone cash money for a lease that has an attitude with me to begin with, just seems like all kinds of bad. I wanted to here some thoughts on moving out to the best growing areas in the emerald triangle and how to successfully make this move. Should I just be focusing on getting there and working for someone else until next season..I have been reading that things are going recreational within the next 2 years and would really like to have a farm of my own thats sustainable by then.

So if anyone has any words of wisdom that have made this move Id love to here what you have to say.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Hahaha thanks for pointing that out, always debatable it seems.

 

[panick503]

Gotta get there in person man. I was trying to find a spot in norcal a few years back, and even being in oregon, it was too far away. By the time I called and made plans to check a place out, 5 dudes had already showed up with cash. Found one locally by being the first person to call the ad and the first person to show up with the loot... anything else is just lip service from a landlords point of view...

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

For quality crops outdoors the most important thing I found was getting a spot with good early morning sun in the Autumn. No matter what size you grow your plants to in Summer, it means nothing when you get to see cold damp Autumn mornings with dew, rain, mist Etc sitting on buds, you want good light to get that shit off the flowers asap, more than anything else.

Do the calculations, friends here with dreamy fincas high up away from everyone have 5km tracks, amazing spots you would think... But, trucks loaded with water are heavy, so they really destroy dirt roads, it also destroys trucks (Toyota are far better than anything else)... Then it turns out the water delivery guy is telling people about how you seem to use more water than the rest of the valley combined, you realise that the farm 1km away has a view of the funny bright emerald green patches on your hillside, the water man is also a hunter who knows every spot on your land and is also illegally poisoning dogs/foxes and Eagles. Paradise definitely needs some good research and honest appraisal.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Yeah def. need to get there and then worry about doing some land hunting in person. Thanks everyone for contributing to the thread.

 

[jdkronyk101]

it can still be done... there are still props available for sale and lease in the triangle..its a little late in the game for a great harvest, but thats relative to what you envision success to be. its definitely not too late for a small crop and a well played/prepped next season...
dont pump from the rivers or streams here in cali.. that is a big no-no. check your neighborhood. if the neighbors are all doing it then you can to. if no one is working in an area/neighborhood, ask yourself why? there is a reason. have your cash ready, and get your feet on some dirt cause you are running out of time. water, southern exposure,climate , budget, and neighborhood are the key factors you should consider. stay away from the coastal areas. be well inland from the ocean. hire an agent or a consultant in the area you are interested in..one with experience in what you are looking for. remember not only do you need to get the place, but you need to set it up too!
the clock is ticking..good luck..

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Thanks jdkronyk101 for the words of encouragement and things I should be keeping in mind. I appreciate it.