What to look for when buying land for outdoor?

[HeavilyTraded]

So I'm looking for an outdoor plot (buy/lease), i know, i know, a little late in the game to just now be looking. It appears the closer it gets to season the more available properties are becoming.

So what are some commonly overlooked features of buying a plot to do a successful outdoor on? Also what is the deal with finding a property that doesn't have a well but has river access, is it looked down upon to use that river water, do you have to buy rights or.... Sorry if these questions seem ignorant this would be my first project outdoors and I need some real guidance. IF any of you experienced outdoor growers have any words of wisdom that would be greatly appreciated. This all seems a bit overwhelming to be honest but I'm trying to do my due diligence without leasing some piece of property that is going to end my outdoor career before it starts.

Any thoughts.... insults...words of discouragement.... are welcome.Lol

 

[stoned-trout]

neighbors,,,prevailing wind direction, is there high ground overlooking your area....yeehaw..rules on water are diff in each place...as long as you don't divert it you can usually get by sticking a small intake in there low key...you don't have to make it permanent if there are water Nazis..leave the end flexible and hide it when not in use..

 

[blastfrompast]

Are you going to be growing legally?

It kinda changes the game

 

[Midwest sticky]

Look into areas that are bad for hunting.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Are you going to be growing legally?

It kinda changes the game

Yeah as legal as possible. Looking in California/Oregon areas.

 

[25ftGreatWhite]

Be good to the neighbors, be good to the land, and be good to the community. Pulling water from rivers is the best way to screw all 3 of those tenents at once.

 

[amannamedtruth]

southern facing slope.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Thats what i figured about the water/river situation? Seems a lot of people are doing that and its supposedly drying them up, pretty sad honestly.

 

[neongreen]

Thats what i figured about the water/river situation? Seems a lot of people are doing that and its supposedly drying them up, pretty sad honestly.

Even if you are pulling up water from a well, that will also be depriving the water table which is feeding the river.

IMO the most conscientious solution is to collect rain water at times when it's not in short supply. Ideally collect it when there is so much that the river is in flood, which people further down stream of you might appreciate.

As for other things to look out for, I'd say a south facing slope will give you the most sun so that would be desirable. Also you could try to find a plot that is in the "rain shadow" of a mountain range, making it more arid and less lightly for mold to be a problem, but then you'd probably struggle to collect the water needed. I'm not sure if trucking water in is viable?

High altitude might be a bonus too since there is more UV, and UV will enhance potency.

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Even if you are pulling up water from a well, that will also be depriving the water table which is feeding the river.

IMO the most conscientious solution is to collect rain water at times when it's not in short supply. Ideally collect it when there is so much that the river is in flood, which people further down stream of you might appreciate.

As for other things to look out for, I'd say a south facing slope will give you the most sun so that would be desirable. Also you could try to find a plot that is in the "rain shadow" of a mountain range, making it more arid and less lightly for mold to be a problem, but then you'd probably struggle to collect the water needed. I'm not sure if trucking water in is viable?

High altitude might be a bonus too since there is more UV, and UV will enhance potency.

Thanks for your post, what are the going rates for trucking water in, sounds expensive but if the plot I get doesn't have water I guess thats the only solution. Anyone have an idea about how much water they are going through in a season seems like it would vary depending on the pot size but any ball park figures? Some good suggestions, def south facing property is top of the list. Thanks again

 

[sourpuss]

Get a pickup with a big water tank on the back. Prob save money over time.

 

[stoned-trout]

cali is in drought I don't think Oregon has been hit as hard...prob a lot more water..trucking in water or trying to haul it yourself is gonna either be real expensive or a pain in the ass or both ...I wouldn't do it if that was only option...yeehaw..around here orchards make the river go almost dry..if your a legal grower you have just as much right to the water as any other horticulturist ,,,,farmer or orchard grower....yeehaw you pay taxes too...fuckoff haters

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Ahaha yeah when is Cali not in a drought, water is a must I probably wouldn't get a property that id need to truck in water, seems pretty absurd.

 

[foreignerabroad]

average water truck charges about $250/2500 gal... they're only legal to drive with 2800, or maybe it's 26. it's not bad for a standard 25 garden, but if you're going gargantuan then it won't be efficient.

drilling a well here in Nor Cal can also get pricey if you go to the wrong people, but average well drilling w/plumbing after all said and done is about $7500-$12000 depending on ground conditions

 

[b4df15h]

check out county regulations when deciding where to buy land. Each county is different with their rules for growing. Not just number of plants, but things like canopy size, and sq ft of garden ect.. these are very important things to consider when buying land IMO. Theyre starting to ban outdoor in some places here in cali.. choose wisely

this might help when choosing a county.. (i dont know how up-to-date this is)
http://www.canorml.org/medical-marijuana/local-growing-limits-in-california

 

[HeavilyTraded]

Anyone know the best local soil mix in Southern Oregon?

Thanks Foreignerabroad for the figures. Thats not too shabby.

 

[stoned-trout]

if water is being trucked in then your gonna need water storage tanks..pain in the ass... last prop I got had well and spring fed pond...yeehaw... I wouldn't even consider a prop where I had to truck in water..

 

[z-ro]

Look into areas that are bad for hunting.

This. And a bunch of other stuff.

 

[hamstring]

I am a wannbe but wouldn't you be looking into someplace like Maine or Michigan vs Oregon/cali?

If this was to be my sole income whether I live east coast or west coast both have large cities and therefore high demand for quality product. Based on that the eastcoast seams like a good choice also.

If number of plants is small wouldn't you do greenhouse or better yet hoophouse at the beginning and and end of the season ?

I agree that a small stream or lowlands area would be best as water is easy to come by. No droughts to worry about.

I have thought about in passing many times but its just daydream for me. It takes real dollars to pull off a piece of land. You also need drying and equipment sheds.

Start up is large even here in the Midwest you can pay $3-4k per acre for land and goes up from there is you want some trees and native flora . Otherwise you're buying a piece of a corn field.

 

[stoned-trout]

ever been to maine or lived there?? I have for quite a few years ...real harsh climate and short season...on the upside lots of land ,plenty of water, plenty of wood..cheap rentals /land compared to other places...theres a great market for the goods nearbye in several states ...yeehaw .. north maine woods is in my blood and dreams..i make the holy pilgrimage every now and then to refresh my soul...you got to be tough as steel to live in rural maine..most cant handle it..