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What the hell causes this?

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See the top half? The leaves are drying up...the bud is healthy and growing.

I tend to all of my plants identically...the others are doing great.




Stumped,
Seed
 
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that happened to me in DWC, and the tip of one bud actually died off, like the size of a marble, just died off. i think it was because of my nutrient mix, too much phosphorous. i don't think this would apply if you feed them all the same shit, do you measure the tds of your food? it's a long shot but, is your soil well aerated? canopy temp? hope this helps man!
 

Sleepy

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macster said:
you might try growing the next one vertically. lol

hehehe :pointlaug

looks like a heat issue. :chin:

does this always happen to the plant closest to the light fixture?
 
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Hi folks, thanx for the feedback.
I havent a clue what caused it. Its definetly not a heat issue. I have all the plants equally spaced from the lights...not to mention I am only using fluros. All of the plants have been taken care of the same...soil, nutes, water...all of it. The leaves just appear crispy...they are still green and plyable....and the bud is outgrowing the others.


Seed
 
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Looks like to much N...those top leaves on that first pics is the clue...they claw over...then may burn...
 
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Hi Ether Eye,
I would probably agree with you but I havent fed them ANY N at all. Only N they have had is what was in the FF Ocean blend soil...I threw the lights as soon as they popped...went directly to the P and K.


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ss...looks like a genetic traight. doesnt look anything bad....
ive had similar plants that finished fine in the past.
 
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Hi Regicide,
You know, I was thinking the same thing. Just figured I needed ICMAGS professional opinions.

Thank you everybody,
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inc0gnit0

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The "Eye" has it.

Did this happen in veg, I kinda doubt it. Don't see why you'd have waited so
long to post. But you never know, some might.
Are they all the same strain? If it's a different strain than the others it may be
more sensitive to N.


I'd say definitely back off the N. That's what causes the claw. Been there....
solved that. Check out my other posts, the organic one.
Since you can't tell by new leaf growth if it's fixed or not if the CLAW stops it
was the N.
 
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Spreading Seed said:
Hi Ether Eye,
I would probably agree with you but I havent fed them ANY N at all. Only N they have had is what was in the FF Ocean blend soil...I threw the lights as soon as they popped...went directly to the P and K.


Seed
Thanks for the reply Incogneato...but you didn't read the rest of the thread. I added NO N at all.


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Guest423

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that one there looks like it's over watered actually, i bet if you let it dry out without water for a few days it will come back....thats my guess and i'm sticking to it.
 
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At this point I will give up on a remedy. The buds are swelling at a tremendous rate so all must be good. As far as water goes....identical to all the others..measured even.
And when it first started I did dry it out...then flushed...no avail.
Just another 1 of Mother Natures curveballs.

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Guest423

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u never answered if they are all the same strain or not, every strain and even every plant handle things different, so it really doesn't matter if they all have had the same of everything....but it really don't matter as long as it doesn't die, maybe it had to much water then you got worried and flushed it so it even got more water...i've had plants look like that before and my problem was too much water...kinda like like root lock, if your roots run out of space that same thing happens also.
 

inc0gnit0

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Hey if it's flowering fine and the leaves aren't dropping...... like you said why even
worry about it but you posted wanting to know what the problem was.

Doesn't matter if you stopped adding N, The residual N could be affecting it. The N contents of The Organic soil you are using
may be to much, and more than the plants requirements at this point in flowering. I never added any N
to mine either. FF Ocean Blend Does have N in it, and yes it can be too much for
some strains when they don't need it.

The CLAW's caused from excess N, I'm telling you, I've beat this bitch on more than
one occasion for more folks than myself. But if they are doing fine.... hey sit back and reap the benefits when the time comes.
 
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Hi folks,
Thanx again for the responses. All 4 of my ladies are NL Bubblicious, 2 sativa doms and 2 shortys. I have heard of other ppl having problems with FF ocean before. Maybe its a bit hot for smaller sized plants..i guess I will try something differant next go around.
I pulled the effected plant from the pot to inspect the roots and they seem fine- creamy white with plenty of room to go, not rootbound.

Next time I'll use a lower N soil since I like throwing the lights right from germ. I guess if I don't lettem veg long there IS indeed to much N left in the soil for the bud stage.

Thanx once again folks,
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Guest423

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if your looking to try a good easy no fail mix try 1/3 perlite, 1/3 vermiculite, 1/3 earthworm castings.......thats what i've been doing for years and never had a reason to change....if you feel like getting fancy you can add some guano, kelp, blood meal, bone meal,ect......but that main 1/3 mix is the one i go to everytime....sometimes i add the xtras and other times i just stick with that and feed my normal ferts.
 
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Thanks T2U....that seems to be an "easy as pie" mix, sound right up my alley.

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