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What makes marijuana so harmful?

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I mean honestly, out of all the global chaos in the world, how does a herb really harm the community? It is absurd that marijuana is illegal.

The one thing about herb is that is can be kind of demotivational (at least certain kinds) and that results in the people not trying to do anything about the marijuana legalization movement. If every stoner got off their ass and started protesting, I think it would be very effective.

It is just absurd.
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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its harmfull to the user because the state will take their cash, freedom, and harm their ability to earn a living after being prosecuted for owning it. Also people with mental health problems, tend to exhibit mental health problems after using it.
 
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the only thing it harms is my wallet, because every day i bring a joint to work, and every day i spend $5.65 at burger king @ lunch :joint: i use to NOT eat fast food, til i got this job, right next to a bunch of grease factories.. but im not bitchin, i love me a double whopper all stoned :wave:

really though, big business is the only real thing standing in its way, imo..
 
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havalota

Member
What makes marijuana so harmful?

Police action, and the effect it has on the constitution. When there are uninforceable laws passed, it causes a great deal of disrespect for the law and law-enforcement.
 

naga_sadu

Active member
I mean honestly, out of all the global chaos in the world, how does a herb really harm the community? It is absurd that marijuana is illegal.

Who spearheaded the direction for mmj to be made illegal? Paper corporations (headed by Hearst) as well as chem corpos like DuPont. Who later joined the bandwagon and made it illegal? The pharmaceutical devils as well as the alcohol industry to some extent. Why? Because leagalising mmj would kill strip them of their profit levels as it's a better substitute to almost anything those corpos provided. On an industrial, recreational and medicinal levels.

I don't think its breaking news if I said the US is a corporate run socio-economy. The Federal Reserve is NOT a public entity but a corporate one :yoinks:

And since when did the corporate sector even bother looking into anything beyond their profit and loss books? Never. Just like the war in Iraq is supposed to make America better off by making it safe for Americans. Yeah right...

Prob is in today's political democracy and election dynamics, u need lotsa $$$ if u want to make a meaningful entry and a fruitful career in the political scene. Tat kinda $$$ can only be dished out by the corporations. So once a candidate, whether Republican or Democrat, gets corporate backing for election campaigns, the eventual politicians and thus, the political system beomes nothing more than a convenience arm for the corporate elite.

We almost had the problem in India after independence, but what saved the country from plunging into the same depths of insanity as modern day USA in terms of mmj laws was land and wealth redistribution...
 
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Sinfuldreams

Basement Garden Gnome
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US Polls show that PARENTS are to blame for the current Laws.
Even those Parents who smoked said they didn't want thier KIDS getting it.
Thats why it's still illegal.

As far as motivation, I think it's more stereotype than truth. If your new to it yes it can be over powering, but heavy use... hell sometimes I don't feel anything.
I was in one of the best Army Units and we all smoked.. We where Motivated.
Thanks to Cheech and Chong we have kids growing up THINKING thats how you act when stoned..... just aint so.
Sin
 

naga_sadu

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US Polls show that PARENTS are to blame for the current Laws.
Even those Parents who smoked said they didn't want thier KIDS getting it.
Thats why it's still illegal.

Lotsa parents are anti pot in the US which surprised me actually I kno. But where do parents derive info from? The mainstream channels and thru official mouthpieces. All the scare tactics and moral hype is just a cosmetic coverup to justify criminilising something for economic reasons. I.e. to benefit people w/ power who will stand much to lose (paper, pharma, chem corpos) if mmj is made legal.

And today's overly mechanical fast forward work environment and lifestyle leaves u very drained at the end of the day to analyse things. U barely have enough energy to throw something @ the microwave, say a few words and hit the sack. No point blaming the parents. I still blame the people who spearheaded and funded the criminilisation drive who are the corpos I've listed...

If u wanna look @ the processes, the media manupulation, te coverups which was used in the US in the early criminilisation days, take a trip down to present day Laos.
 
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Sinfuldreams

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While I agree with the Scare Tactics theory that still dosen't account for the parents that Smoke and still want it Illegal.

Old mind sets are hard to change.. for instance I still don't like the idea of kids smoking untill they are 18.... I have no proof that it's bad for young people.. but thats how I feel. I know people who smoked very young and are normal as adults... but I also know some Drugged out Zombies, who whent on to harder drugs as well. I was an Alcoholic started drinking at 18 so kinda blows my theory, but it's how I feel... not necessarily the truth that counts in the end.

Sin
 

Babbabud

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Ive been smoking pot for over 42 years and the only thing that ever made it harmful to me is the laws. They have done grave damage to many of us.
 
point is is that there is NO reason for it to be a crime for an ADULT to posses it. leave the kids out of it. it all has to do with the government making more revenue from it being illegal. end of story
 
what about cigs and booze? they KILL whereas pot dosen't. prohibition didn't work and this isn't either. its up to US to shove it down our goverments throat but a lot of potheads are too lazy, too content the way it is till they get popped.
 
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Gangabiss

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"They say pot makes you lazy and unmotivated....LIE!!!! When you're high you can do all the things you usually do just as well, you just realise it isn't worth the fucking effort"
"Sure I could get up at dawn, go to a job that I hate and does not inspire me creatively whatsoever, for the rest of my fucking life......or I could get up at noon and learn how to play the sitar"

Bill Hicks

:joint:
 
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I Used To Grow

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it's harmful because if you smoke a bowl of bud to the head you get so hungry you gain 30 lbs which leads to a heart attack.
 

Sinfuldreams

Basement Garden Gnome
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Well Kinda but

Well Kinda but

plumberjohn420 said:
point is is that there is NO reason for it to be a crime for an ADULT to posses it. leave the kids out of it. it all has to do with the government making more revenue from it being illegal. end of story

Agreed about adults, but you can't leave the kids out of it, because thats what the Adults believe, and since adults vote, every time reform goes to a vote it looses. ( Sure a few States have seen the light... more will follow. )
Mabe stoners don't vote?

If we the people voted to Legalize then the Goverment can't do anything.
We are the government ummmmm well we're supose to be anyway.

Its a slow process. Read an artical where Law Enforcement Nation Wide is starting to ignor many cannabis related "Crimes" Many Cops think it's a waste of time and engery to catch MJ Smokers. Now if you throw em a bone and give em a bust they will take it... but in some areas they are no longer SEEKING us out!

Where I live it's getting a lot better. But hell yes you still go through hell if your busted. But you won't see much jail time here just for MJ. ( Depends of course large amounts etc. )

To change the Government you have to change peoples point of view and thats damn hard.

Sin
 

alaeddin

Member
Gangabiss said:
"They say pot makes you lazy and unmotivated....LIE!!!! When you're high you can do all the things you usually do just as well, you just realise it isn't worth the fucking effort"
"Sure I could get up at dawn, go to a job that I hate and does not inspire me creatively whatsoever, for the rest of my fucking life......or I could get up at noon and learn how to play the sitar"

Bill Hicks

:joint:

Learning to play the sitar is a great idea but I'd rather sleep early and wake up early, I love the morning sun.

It is true that I felt somewhat overwhelmed when I first started smoking -not very long ago- but I am slowly getting used to doing things with weed. It is just getting better and better. I've even decreased my drinking.
 
Sinfuldreams said:
Agreed about adults, but you can't leave the kids out of it, because thats what the Adults believe, and since adults vote, every time reform goes to a vote it looses. ( Sure a few States have seen the light... more will follow. )
Mabe stoners don't vote?

If we the people voted to Legalize then the Goverment can't do anything.
We are the government ummmmm well we're supose to be anyway.

Its a slow process. Read an artical where Law Enforcement Nation Wide is starting to ignor many cannabis related "Crimes" Many Cops think it's a waste of time and engery to catch MJ Smokers. Now if you throw em a bone and give em a bust they will take it... but in some areas they are no longer SEEKING us out!

Where I live it's getting a lot better. But hell yes you still go through hell if your busted. But you won't see much jail time here just for MJ. ( Depends of course large amounts etc. )

To change the Government you have to change peoples point of view and thats damn hard.

Sin
you are right the adluts are using kids as their front but thats changing too. its just going to take a while to change those minds or let them die. it is happening its too damn slow for a lot of us but look how far we've come in just the past ten years.five years ago two of my friends were murdered by the F.B.I and the Michigan State police http://www.journeyforjustice.org/archive/0201autumn/10RainbowFarm/press/SouthBend11-02.html and a lot of good people will have their lives torn apart for no good reason due to stubborn closed minded people.
 
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