what is wrong with my babies?? Pix

[Guest]

Just IGNORE solarT ... I do ... He used to have a little something to contribute but now he just seems to want to stir the shit pot ... Here's the facts ... a 50/50 mix of JD and water will make the JD 40 proof or 20% alcohol. 80 proof JD is 40% alcohol. 190 proof Grain Neutral Spirits is 95% alcohol. Fifth Graders can grasp this concept but should Not be given alcohol of Any Proof. Has there been a sudden Influx of Alcoholics (and Stupid Ones at that) here at IC Lately? If everyone at IC Ignored SolarT (which we should all do IMHO) he would still post Bullshit just to see his opinion.

 

[Core]

Be nice to the Lady dude...she has a point.....FFOF is mostly to hot for new born seedlings....just like my canna professional,and 2 of the all-mix's of plagron and BioBizz...

 

[MynameStitch]

Maybe I didnt make it clear, but my question is about the brown/purple stuff where the new leaves are forming/emerging, not the N deficiency and probably overwatering.

Out of the several remaining, each 2 beans were sprouted a couple days apart, in different paper towels. The one in the right of the pic, obviously has at least a few days on the left one, yet they both, actually all of the BB has this brown stuff. I tried BB a several years ago and dont remember seeing this, so I dont think its specific to the strain.

The soil mix is specifically made for seedlings and holds a lot more water than I thought. The cups were very light as compared to the day they are watered but this soil mixture still felt pretty wet and I knew I shoulda waited. Oh well, first time with this soil and I know now.

What brand is your soil mixture? The purple you are seeing is possible P issue, when seedlings have P issues for some reason it turns purple like that; what are your temps where they are at? Night time and day time?

Cold temps can cause P absorption problems.

Also you did not answer my questions..... how often are you watering and how much are you using to water them?


Weed wrapper; you have a nice point there m8!

Thanks core, ::hug:: obviosly he does not get it; the picture I posted came from his gallery and he uses 50/50 mixture of perlite and FFOF and he says his plants don't have a problem? I see all burned seedlings in the pic I posted...... so no matter what anyone does say to him, he is just going to ignore it; I pretty much wasted my time trying to show him proof he was wrong when all he wanted to do was start shit back up and change the subject to something so he would avoid not having to admit he was wrong.

 

[TotalHeavenClub]

sorry kalikush,I don't have a clue about the browning.
But just a word for solar:even if you mix 10% ffof and 90% perlite,when you put a seedling in such a mix the fact that it's being surrounded by a lot of perlite does not lower the ffof ec.And when the seedlings first roots get to it,it might still be to hot for them.Even if the total amount of nutes in your pot is lowered by the addition of the perlite.
I thought a 5th grader would get that.
good luck with your seedlings kalikush


by the way,solar:those have been grown in light mix with very few nutes added.I guess ssedling of nute-sensitive strains like this one(white satin) would just fry in ffof.still a 5th grader ?



nice new avatar,stitch !

 

[kalikush]

What brand is your soil mixture? The purple you are seeing is possible P issue, when seedlings have P issues for some reason it turns purple like that; what are your temps where they are at? Night time and day time?

Cold temps can cause P absorption problems.

Also you did not answer my questions..... how often are you watering and how much are you using to water them?

The soil is some brand I never heard of (Planters Pride or something like that) and it was the only one I could find that was plain, it just has peat moss, vermiculite and some kind of bark shavings. This stuff holds a ton of water and I use 16oz cups. I soak them when I water, since the stuff basically repels water at first. The first watering was too soon, probably 4-5 days later, the second watering was the right amount of time, 8 days.

I had no idea low temps could cause P problems, the coldest its been in there at night is between 65 and 70F and avg day temp is 80. Is that cold enough to cause P problems? I finally got the ingredients this weekend to build up a thermostat controlled outlet (The Dopest thread) so that will help keep the temps stable if that is a problem.

 

[MynameStitch]

Yes, that is too cold for seedlings, temps need to stay at least 70F for them. OLder plants that are bigger won't have as much issues to cold; but they still need to avoid cold temps; now in flowering peeps use colder temps to bring out colors in the plant if the plant has a color changing gene.

Ya, peat moss is designed to hold water, which is why a lot of people use perlite for extra drainage.

Ya, cold temps will bring out a purple P issue especially in seedlings, cold temps the P will change from a spotty kind to a purple kind; I have no clue why this is, but I know it does happen for a fact.

Bark shavings is terrible for seedlings; it makes it harder for the plant to root it depending on the amount; if you use bark shavings you want to keep them out of the rootball area and keep them on the top soil, but small pieces not big. You don't want the sharp pieces causing problems, so avoid using them until plants get bigger.