What is Colombian Gold 🟡 to you?

[Lugo]

I was talking about crossing the original line to indica, but also selection of plants for 'indica' type phenos. I read a book by a pot smuggler importing Jamaican weed. He got hold of indica seeds early seventies and got the growers there to mix it with the sativa they were growing.

The growers were thrilled to boost thc and shorten the flowering time with added weight to the buds.

That sounds like the late 90's to me but of course with such close proximity to the US its way possible especially when you consider hippy travel destinations of the time. Much more likely in Jamaica than lets say Colombia i'd say. I'd love the reference to that book too btw! Sounds super interesting!

 

[Lugo]

No personal experience but the other day I saw people talking about this picture being similar to what the Gold looked liked when it eventually got to the States....

Pure Thai Sativas

i dont think clipseal bags were a thing back in the 70s and early 80s , i do recall buying ounces of weed , or bags of , in sandwich bags though , they just had a fold over top , some folks used to lick that to make it stick when rolled up I recently found a bag of my final outdoor Kumaoni...

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I must say the imagine in my mind created by stories of old timers was quite a bit more delectable looking. But hey don't judge a book by its cover. Even today my worst looking jar is the best one. Ok maybe the second worst looking one.

I'd say no. No but yes If the plant material in that bag were grown out, cut, dried and cured properly it'd be something quite beautiful for sure. That bud and this one could be exactly the same bud.

 

[Lugo]

I was talking about crossing the original line to indica, but also selection of plants for 'indica' type phenos. I read a book by a pot smuggler importing Jamaican weed. He got hold of indica seeds early seventies and got the growers there to mix it with the sativa they were growing.

The growers were thrilled to boost thc and shorten the flowering time with added weight to the buds.

That sounds like the late 90's to me but of course with such close proximity to the US its way possible especially when you consider hippy travel destinations of the time. Much more likely in Jamaica than lets say Colombia i'd say. I'd love the reference to that book too btw! Sounds super interesting

The Colombian Gold coming around in 1972 was very gold in color. Nothing like your bud photo. It was bright yellow and was great smoke.

You must have alot of experience with it for sure. I'd love to see that!

 

[yesum]

That sounds like the late 90's to me but of course with such close proximity to the US its way possible especially when you consider hippy travel destinations of the time. Much more likely in Jamaica than lets say Colombia i'd say. I'd love the reference to that book too btw! Sounds super interesting!

He also imported from Colombia later on. This was very much happening in the early seventies. I think there was barely any Jamaican to be had prior to this guy. He mentions low quality Mexican as being the only options before he came along. I know there was great Mexican but not much of it.

 

[funkyhorse]

Ya know pure old NLD variation is Black/Red/Gold/Green, old Colombian is good example!

Btw USC Colombian Gold is from the Vibes Collective but i don't remember from who precisely, Kanza? Luiz BSC? like Kaiki's Punta Roja and few others...

This is from memory, what I remember of what I read when I grew the CG72
The seed was shared by someone who used the alias cripplecrow or something similar to that
@Nexus7 posted his name in the last pages of the CG72 thread

The info was on cannabiogen forum. The seed was sent to Spain to Kaiki and he gave it to JGL
It took one year to JGL to reproduce it
The same cripplecrow approached Dubi at this icmag forum and offered the same seed. I have no clue if it made to Dubi or not. The alias is not existing anymore and it was guest before the forum upgrade. I cant find anything after the upgrade and Cannabiogen forum is gone with all the info

Are you saying the Punto Rojo Kaiki/CBG had is sourced from Luiz BSC?

The USC CG72 needs 2 months cure and is good for the next 3 months, after that it starts getting a lot of munchies with the longer cure at tropical weather, this feature doesnt happen to most tropical varieties I dealt with in my life. The best would be to keep it at the fridge for slower cure and longer lasting

Cannabis is a very dynamic trade all over the world
I am seeing here and at more threads, buds from the 70s from Usa and american people telling they were sourcing bud and showing pictures of bud
It makes zero sense that you were smoking colombian grown buds. It should have been brick for long transportation. It makes a huge volume to transport bud and keep it in jars and burp the jars all the way to Usa to keep it. Brick was the traditional way to transport and keep bud all over the world and you talk about ziplocks for buds in the 70s, just no way what dealers were giving you at that time in the form of bud was colombian grown, it was all Usa grown
What I think is happening is Usa received real colombian brick in the 60s during the hippy time and then by the 70s it was all Usa grown. Haze started in 69? Growing ganja in Usa started in the 60s and by the 70s the american consumption was locally grown from the imported seeds? And who knows what is what? At that time it was hippy time and everything was free love and free everything

And when Tony Montana went to war beginning of 80s, the colombian export and the money was cocaine, why would you take all the risks to transport something else that is worse 10 times less like ganja?

 

[motaco]

I have numerous articles and dates photos saved that would answer this question. “R the Dope Connoisseur wrote numerous articles about the subject.

I have been lucky enough to try a few amazing sativa strains that were reportedly Colombian Gold genetics. Great stuff. All of them were. However they are way out of my range of nostalgia.

Guijira Gold, and Santa Marta. Those two names ring out and help differentiate true Gold from Fools Gold. Fools Gold is worth talking about too. Once upon a time anything that was gold sold at a much higher price than standard weed. (Anyone remember the Purple Rush of the 00’s?)

Fools Gold ended up ruining the reputation of real Gold. There was a small percentage of real deal Colombian Gold that was sold, and then the massive multi ton shipments that came in the following years were of a much lower quality.

Unfortunately very few old timers left who really smoked the true Colombian connoisseur shipments.

 

[yesum]

To funky, the Colombian I smoked late seventies was all bricked or compressed. There were no fluffy buds. People at that time did not know how to finish such long flowering strains in the US. The buds were clearly compressed but for the gold it was looser than the red, just genetics.

Most was heavy with seeds with the gold having immature white seeds. In the sixties they had seedless Colombian coming into the US. Small shipments to select clients. Expensive as hell. satva smoked it in New York. Quality declined steadily as time went on.

I remember a guy had Colombian red growing in his backyard here in socal around 1977. I doubt he got it fully matured but maybe as it was in a pot and could be moved indoors or greenhouse it. Lots of people smoked leaves or what was known as homegrown. If your tolerance was low it could do an alright job for effects. Not taste, hehe.

 

[Lugo]

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He also imported from Colombia later on. This was very much happening in the early seventies. I think there was barely any Jamaican to be had prior to this guy. He mentions low quality Mexican as being the only options before he came along. I know there was great Mexican but not much of it.

Thanks! I'll look into that!

 

[Roms]

I'm not South/Central America specialist but @satva is one the best Colombian connoisseur and reporter i know.

At the time Luiz and his BrazilianSeedCo had released Colombian Black, i don't remember for the Red and Gold but very probably yes.

Are you saying the Punto Rojo Kaiki/CBG had is sourced from Luiz BSC?

Have to ask amigo @nachilloo, CBG's PR is work of him. Then also pure repro by @jact55.

 

[Lugo]

This is from memory, what I remember of what I read when I grew the CG72
The seed was shared by someone who used the alias cripplecrow or something similar to that
@Nexus7 posted his name in the last pages of the CG72 thread

The info was on cannabiogen forum. The seed was sent to Spain to Kaiki and he gave it to JGL
It took one year to JGL to reproduce it
The same cripplecrow approached Dubi at this icmag forum and offered the same seed. I have no clue if it made to Dubi or not. The alias is not existing anymore and it was guest before the forum upgrade. I cant find anything after the upgrade and Cannabiogen forum is gone with all the info

Are you saying the Punto Rojo Kaiki/CBG had is sourced from Luiz BSC?

The USC CG72 needs 2 months cure and is good for the next 3 months, after that it starts getting a lot of munchies with the longer cure at tropical weather, this feature doesnt happen to most tropical varieties I dealt with in my life. The best would be to keep it at the fridge for slower cure and longer lasting

Cannabis is a very dynamic trade all over the world
I am seeing here and at more threads, buds from the 70s from Usa and american people telling they were sourcing bud and showing pictures of bud
It makes zero sense that you were smoking colombian grown buds. It should have been brick for long transportation. It makes a huge volume to transport bud and keep it in jars and burp the jars all the way to Usa to keep it. Brick was the traditional way to transport and keep bud all over the world and you talk about ziplocks for buds in the 70s, just no way what dealers were giving you at that time in the form of bud was colombian grown, it was all Usa grown
What I think is happening is Usa received real colombian brick in the 60s during the hippy time and then by the 70s it was all Usa grown. Haze started in 69? Growing ganja in Usa started in the 60s and by the 70s the american consumption was locally grown from the imported seeds? And who knows what is what? At that time it was hippy time and everything was free love and free everything

And when Tony Montana went to war beginning of 80s, the colombian export and the money was cocaine, why would you take all the risks to transport something else that is worse 10 times less like ganja?

In reference to that quote about black/red/green/gold is pretty much bs lol

I don't know if when people don't know or understand something they start dividing it up and take it apart so that each aspect (in this case color, which can totally be manipulated) becomes its own thing.


OR if its an industry market ploy to sell seeds under different names of the same thing.

Probably both.

In reference to the Colombian this gringos like "i got the green, the purple, the black, the brown, the gold, the red..."

FLICK OFF! What are we five? Cannabis is not crayons you 2D FLICK

 

[Lugo]

I'm not South/Central America specialist but @satva is one the best Colombian connoisseur and reporter i know. At the time Luiz and his BrazilianSeedCo had released Colombian Black, i don't remember for the Red and Gold but very probably yes.



Have to ask amigo @nachilloo, CBG's PR is work of him. Then also pure repro by @jact55.

I remember Luiz Fritzman...whatever happened to him btw?

 

[Roms]

? good question, sadly not very good reputation after few years of his BSC, i've myself lost cash in the mail lol.

 

[Roms]

In reference to the Colombian this gringos like "i got the green, the purple, the black, the brown, the gold, the red..."

FLICK OFF! What are we five? Cannabis is not crayons you 2D FLICK

Simply different qualities according places from highlands (Black/Red) to valleys (Gold/Green)

 

[Lugo]

This is from memory, what I remember of what I read when I grew the CG72
The seed was shared by someone who used the alias cripplecrow or something similar to that
@Nexus7 posted his name in the last pages of the CG72 thread

The info was on cannabiogen forum. The seed was sent to Spain to Kaiki and he gave it to JGL
It took one year to JGL to reproduce it
The same cripplecrow approached Dubi at this icmag forum and offered the same seed. I have no clue if it made to Dubi or not. The alias is not existing anymore and it was guest before the forum upgrade. I cant find anything after the upgrade and Cannabiogen forum is gone with all the info

Are you saying the Punto Rojo Kaiki/CBG had is sourced from Luiz BSC?

The USC CG72 needs 2 months cure and is good for the next 3 months, after that it starts getting a lot of munchies with the longer cure at tropical weather, this feature doesnt happen to most tropical varieties I dealt with in my life. The best would be to keep it at the fridge for slower cure and longer lasting

Cannabis is a very dynamic trade all over the world
I am seeing here and at more threads, buds from the 70s from Usa and american people telling they were sourcing bud and showing pictures of bud
It makes zero sense that you were smoking colombian grown buds. It should have been brick for long transportation. It makes a huge volume to transport bud and keep it in jars and burp the jars all the way to Usa to keep it. Brick was the traditional way to transport and keep bud all over the world and you talk about ziplocks for buds in the 70s, just no way what dealers were giving you at that time in the form of bud was colombian grown, it was all Usa grown
What I think is happening is Usa received real colombian brick in the 60s during the hippy time and then by the 70s it was all Usa grown. Haze started in 69? Growing ganja in Usa started in the 60s and by the 70s the american consumption was locally grown from the imported seeds? And who knows what is what? At that time it was hippy time and everything was free love and free everything

And when Tony Montana went to war beginning of 80s, the colombian export and the money was cocaine, why would you take all the risks to transport something else that is worse 10 times less like ganja?

Why would a breeder/seedbank or anybody erase a forum with basically all their genetic history ?

No, i'm not saying that CBGs anything is from BSC, I don't know nor care honestly.

Well we were getting brick straight through the 80's. I'm not sure I understand your last comments and with that Scarface thing im more confused.


This is 1 year old cured CPR btw

 

[Lugo]

? good question, sadly not very good reputation after few years of his BSC, i've myself lost cash in the mail lol.

I remember hearing similar stories.

 

[Lugo]

Simply different qualities according places from highlands (Black/Red) to valleys (Gold/Green)

I understand what your saying but its not that simple my friend.

You can grow clones of the same plant and have all the dried flowers look different manipulating substrate, elevation, nutrition, inputs, anthocyanins, dry/cure processes etc

 

[Loc Dog]

To funky, the Colombian I smoked late seventies was all bricked or compressed. There were no fluffy buds. People at that time did not know how to finish such long flowering strains in the US. The buds were clearly compressed but for the gold it was looser than the red, just genetics.

Most was heavy with seeds with the gold having immature white seeds. In the sixties they had seedless Colombian coming into the US. Small shipments to select clients. Expensive as hell. satva smoked it in New York. Quality declined steadily as time went on.

I remember a guy had Colombian red growing in his backyard here in socal around 1977. I doubt he got it fully matured but maybe as it was in a pot and could be moved indoors or greenhouse it. Lots of people smoked leaves or what was known as homegrown. If your tolerance was low it could do an alright job for effects. Not taste, hehe.

I saw same from 76 - 80 high school years NYC burbs. Mostly colombian brick weed and 78 and 79 some golds and maybe twice reds. Lots of hash.

 

[yesum]

If I recall right, satva said the stuff from the sixties was not compacted and seedless. Super intense sativa highs. Very expensive and not really available to regular folks.

 

[Creeperpark]

I loved those Colombo buds. I remember when some people started turning the gold stuff down because of paraquat poisoning. Does anyone remember that?

 

[Lugo]

I loved those Colombo buds. I remember when some people started turning the gold stuff down because of paraquat poisoning. Does anyone remember that?

Im aware but that was before my time. Nasty business!