What exactly IS Durban Poison?

[Burt]

i only smoke a selected cut grown by old heads-i coudn't think to even ask him questions after the joint was passed on-one jay discombobulated 5 of us-easily
Very strong up high-great for music, convo and sex
durban is right up there with Haze imo for sheer strenght

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Ok wam, but I have read somewhere else that it was bred further in cali refined to the point it is now. like I said, I could be wrong.
But there is no mystery to a land race strain responding to its natural photoperiod, and to my understanding, there is no possible way an African sativa could finish much of anywhere in NorthAmerica other than it being hybridised or acclimated. elevation would not effect the photoperiod enuf to render it usefull to a northern climate.

landraces are just that, and theres not much you can do to influance the effect of a plants recognition of photoperiod, within a few given decades anyway.
I wouldnt be ignorant enuff to doubt your heritage or place of living but cannabis is fairly simple in this aspect, and quite telling of it origin as per its cycles.
As Ive said, I may be mistaken. But mabey what you know as Durban Poison, and what NorthAmericans know as Durban Poison, are 2 different things. because there is NO way a land race from your region, would bloom early in the northern climates of N.America. just no way, especially a stable or IBL landrace. It just dosent work.

thanks for the discussion, I look foreward to more.
Misty.

Well you are dead wrong Miss T,
I bred the Durban Poison in the early 1970's in Cali and it was early from the get. it came from the 30th latitude and I did the work at the 37th. It was also small plants and hermi but I worked on it for a few years got rid of the hermis, and selected for big bracts, and spicy taste and high, as well as earlyness, and cleaned it up. No Hybidization, No acclimatization, just hard work killing all the rejects and keeping only the best for the goal. I did have a lot to select from!
BTW it is pure from S Africa, never hybidized, if you refer to my S.African Durban Poison, which has been around for many others to copy and/or hybridize from the mid 70's, until recenty when other S African seeds suppliers have also sold seeds from S Africa or with S African genes in it. My S African Durban Poison is early enough that it can be grown outdoors in the ground in Holland 53rd latitude if the winter is a bit late and moderate, maybe 30-50% of the years. BTW I have also grown many pure Durban seeds from S Africa that were not early like mine.
-SamS

 

[Gert Lush]

Maybe Miss T is confusing Equatorial sativas, which indeed can have crazy 20 week finishing times with DP, hence her puzzlement and her quote that "there is NO way a land race from your region, would bloom early in the northern climates of N.America. just no way, especially a stable or IBL landrace. It just dosent work."

Why not, girl? Have some faith...:wink: (Hint: Africa is quite a big place)

I do not know exactly why Lesotho strains are so early, but they are. I suspect it has something to do with the altitude and the latitude.

Also (not quite sure here), my understanding is that original Moroccan strains were quite early too. Again, the latitude is about 30°-35° N just like Lesotho / Kwa Zulu is 30° South, and the Atlas Mts. are about as high as the Drakensberg.

 

[CitrusHigh]

Here's my durban...Maybe not poison....

Here's my durban...Maybe not poison....

This plant came from a bag of seed that was sent to me straight from the durban region of Africa. Phenomenal Smoke, I mean potent, like lightning up your spine in to your brain. I get sad thinking I might never taste it again, but was nice while it lasted.

Don't know if it can be called durban poison, but it is certainly a landrace from Durban Africa.


Citrus

 

[TheOneWill]

The reason why I asked is I goggled Durban Poison and it says it was an auto flowering strain.
Heres the link
http://www.77seeds.com/durbanpoison.php
Heres what it says.
Hailing from an unknown garden, Durban Poison is an exclusively inbred South African sativa crossed with a F1 cross. Considered 100% sativa. Typically an outdoor plant due to its ability to grow quite tall with large leaves, Durban Poison can essentially flourish in both inside and out since it does so well under artificial light as well.

Durban Poison usually flowers typically after about eight or nine weeks. The buds are long, fat and tight with plenty of resin. These solid nugs are resilient and strong against molds and other diseases, making Durban Poison a strain that can be grown even in non-harvesting seasons making it one of the easier to grow strains available.

The plant produces a Thai-like aniseed smell similar to licorice. A husky, earthy taste pleasant to the smoker. Durban Poison is well known for it's "up" high that produces an energetic, trip effect.
Also I have jack's poison
Durban poison x jack herer and it auto flowered on me at 8-9weeks.
But I also got Durban Poison that I haven't tried out yet.

 

[Verite]

So whos durban poison is the one to try?? Point us in the right direction someone please..

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4400.html

 

[Dalaihempy]

I always thort the Dutch Durban Poison was a hybreed didnt know it was a pure line.

I always thort Durban Poison was a sativa long african sat but a few years ago a guy who lived in Durban told me there were a few things called Durban Poison in the 70s when he was liveing there but all were short type plants one Durban line had purple flowers that he still has and grows.

 

[astra007]

which durban poison? nirvana's who combined skunk#1? dutch passion who crossed it with a NL? the land based original from the durban city of africa as posted in this thread. its like the blue or white RHINO. it once was called durban - 14 weeks of flower. NCGA's poison was 11 weeks and dutch passion claims 9 weeks. D/P is a sativa hybrid. nirvana is a sativa but not pure. some even claim that it has purple buds on some pheno's = hybrid.

you can get the land based original from african seeds for example and all the pheno's are uniform. 13 - 14 weeks flower. pure sativa. hope this helps

 

[Burt]

"I mean potent, like lightning up your spine in to your brain"
that sounds like durban to me!
sam-where can we get the best durban in your opinion?
should i start on the 2 yo freebies you gave away?
SK#1 X durban?

 

[Burt]

BTW-many thanks for the hard work, sacrifice, and dedication that went into bringing these genes to the world Sam!
Is there anywhere on the web that details your travels?
Were you also involved in the collection of seeds in Asia or was that Neville and Ben primarily? I guess what I'd like to know is if you traveled to the locales yourself-if so-that would be really cool-cannabis and culture go hand in hand

 

[3dDream]

I am just wrapping up Sam's durban poison X skunk no.1 right now. Out of the four girls, one plant grew twice as fast and had twice as much bud as the others. The keeper has a pepper-sweet-floor cleaner-citrus smell to her. I image she is more skunk no.1 than durban? I can't wait to taste her after a good cure. Thanks Sam!

 

[ngakpa]

Ok wam, but I have read somewhere else that it was bred further in cali refined to the point it is now. like I said, I could be wrong.
But there is no mystery to a land race strain responding to its natural photoperiod, and to my understanding, there is no possible way an African sativa could finish much of anywhere in NorthAmerica other than it being hybridised or acclimated. elevation would not effect the photoperiod enuf to render it usefull to a northern climate.

landraces are just that, and theres not much you can do to influance the effect of a plants recognition of photoperiod, within a few given decades anyway.
I wouldnt be ignorant enuff to doubt your heritage or place of living but cannabis is fairly simple in this aspect, and quite telling of it origin as per its cycles.
As Ive said, I may be mistaken. But mabey what you know as Durban Poison, and what NorthAmericans know as Durban Poison, are 2 different things. because there is NO way a land race from your region, would bloom early in the northern climates of N.America. just no way, especially a stable or IBL landrace. It just dosent work.

thanks for the discussion, I look foreward to more.
Misty.

Miss T, this reminds me of some of the nonsense you were talking in the Landrace Kush thread, seem to remember you had some notion that only second rate plants were used for making charas... btw Durban, South Africa is at about 30 degrees South

interesting link to cannabisculture, confirming my prejudice about Sensi Seeds selling hybrids as pure landraces

other than Dutch Passion, Seedsman is also offering an early Durban strain

then there is Afropips, with a long flowering Durban - said to be from the old "pencils" any experienced South African smoker will rave about

the Durban with the most rave reviews I have seen is the old African Seeds one, but sadly they went out of business after the Emery fiasco

I'd also like to check out the Workd of Seeds Kwazulu-Natal

I remember hearing or reading somewhere that the Indian communities in Durban are often a good place to ask if you want good smoke in town

cheers,

Ngakpa

oh yeh - a friend whose father considered himself something of a Durban Poison expert - aged in his 60s now, and for many years a grower - said that the best Durban Poison cultivars have a characteristic leaf shape at the apex of the buds... sadly this friend wasn't able to specify exactly what the leaf shape was, but it may be something to bear in mind if you are looking for killer DP

 

[urban]

Durban Poison - 50N

Front-Durban Poison, Back-Maroc x Afghan

Durban

I very like high this herb.

 

[RubbaDub]

Thanks for the responses, everyone!

I think I have a better understanding of what DP is now. Now to decide on whose beans I will try.

 

[Hans Blix]

The reason why I asked is I goggled Durban Poison and it says it was an auto flowering strain.
Heres the link
http://www.77seeds.com/durbanpoison.php
Heres what it says.
Hailing from an unknown garden, Durban Poison is an exclusively inbred South African sativa crossed with a F1 cross. Considered 100% sativa. Typically an outdoor plant due to its ability to grow quite tall with large leaves, Durban Poison can essentially flourish in both inside and out since it does so well under artificial light as well.

Durban Poison usually flowers typically after about eight or nine weeks. The buds are long, fat and tight with plenty of resin. These solid nugs are resilient and strong against molds and other diseases, making Durban Poison a strain that can be grown even in non-harvesting seasons making it one of the easier to grow strains available.

The plant produces a Thai-like aniseed smell similar to licorice. A husky, earthy taste pleasant to the smoker. Durban Poison is well known for it's "up" high that produces an energetic, trip effect.
Also I have jack's poison
Durban poison x jack herer and it auto flowered on me at 8-9weeks.
But I also got Durban Poison that I haven't tried out yet.

No, I can't see it says it autoflowers. The fact that it usually flowers typically after about eight or nine weeks [outside] does not mean it autoflowers. An autoflowerer will flower after a certain period inside under constant light.

 

[Brett]

~hi sam,

Can you PM me? I don't have enough posts to send you one.

-#7

 

[moe]

i smoke durban years ago, very very strong, a taste of soil in mouth (very bad taste in mouth), and very tripy high
and break ur brain after the sleep.
it is hard working the day after lol
for me of the most tripy i smoke with kali myst
u just smoke then u think "oh shit i'm down and possesed by the devil or the voodoo lol"
and u wait to be better !
(the only sativa 's regions i didn't test is thai and colombian/panama only in hybrid forms)
i buy the world of seeds ones, none pop up !

 

[RubbaDub]

Hi Moe,

Which World of Seeds did you try (and none popped up)? I've heard other people complain about the quality (or lack thereof) of the WoS product.

Rubbs

 

[moe]

the kwazulu !

 

[RubbaDub]

Thanks. That's good to know.