What does the future hold??

[marijuanamat]

Growers want feminised,fast flowering,high yielding plants.I've never made fem seeds commercially even though i've got the kit to do so.
I've got ethics and prefer to keep things as natural as possible.
With fem seed you do get pretty much identical plants from pack to pack,but it will get to a point were there will be no variation,no 1 in a million plant that pops out of a pack,just bland same old same old.And there will be no male plants in existence as there's no need for them in modern breeding any more,which makes me sad.
Kudos to breeders who still offer both normal and fem seeds but i'm seeing normal seeds not being replaced when there stock has gone.
What does the future hold for breeders of normal natural non feminised seeds??

What are your thoughts on this subject???

 

[Columbo]

I feel the market is super saturated with strains and breeders already. I'd recommend current breeders to consolidate their existing varities and stabilizing them release only stable IBL's or F1 hybrids.

I suppose the one in a million plant can be quite rewarding but if you were ever to loose that plant knowing it's essentially impossible to ever find that pheno again might be very frustrating.

I'm a hobby breeder (pollen chucker?) myself and I'm sure there are others out there and also people who like to be self sufficient. So there will always be at least a niche market for regular seeds, landraces and heirlooms I feel.

Maybe the seed market will diverge into difinitive commercial and boutique sub-markets ...

Just my thoughts.

 

[Guest]

Growers want feminised,fast flowering,high yielding plants.I've never made fem seeds commercially even though i've got the kit to do so.
I've got ethics and prefer to keep things as natural as possible.
With fem seed you do get pretty much identical plants from pack to pack,but it will get to a point were there will be no variation,no 1 in a million plant that pops out of a pack,just bland same old same old.And there will be no male plants in existence as there's no need for them in modern breeding any more,which makes me sad.
Kudos to breeders who still offer both normal and fem seeds but i'm seeing normal seeds not being replaced when there stock has gone.
What does the future hold for breeders of normal natural non feminised seeds??

What are your thoughts on this subject???

Your looking at it from a narrow point of view if I may say. And so am I most likely but they are 180 degrees apart. I don't know your situation and am not going to look at a bunch of posts and go off the fact your a grower breeder who likes to experiment.


Myself and I think there are thousands like me probably over the country that are trying to grow the best personal use grows we can. Not in 420 friendly states. Limited time and space and don't even get me started on security and stealth. And I repeat I don't grow to sell. I do gift some but selling in this area is the slippery slope to jail.


So my goal is to grow the best quality weed without having to sort thru throwing out males and wasting the time and tent space. And not have some unstable fems that will grow and suddenly herm on me.


I envy you and the ones who can grow what you want. Even if your not a breeder you can go get great genetics clones at local dispensaries. I cant unless I can find a buddy in MI to help me out.
Its why I buy seeds from some of the big seed breeders like Green House Seeds. Decent product and reliable. Or at least for me. You have no idea how much I would LOVE to get a real forum cut GSC or a GG#4 clone. I cant figure out for the life of me why there isn't a top tier fem seed available for at least the GSC out. I see lots of people who claim to but when you dig deep like cali connect you find tons of bad news.


Other than what I read I have no idea how difficult it must be to try and produce truly stable fem seeds in strains like this. The very few small breeders I read about seem to be so elusive and hard to contact its frustrating.

 

[HeriMarry]

Sad but GMO, IMO.

 

[Dropped Cat]

Breeding for terpene consistency, males not going away anytime soon.

Yeah, lots of websites collecting and reselling the fast food of cannabis,
but many other folks are using proven methods to fix traits in selected
cultivars.

Those breeders are mostly self supplied and distributing through networks
that are not posted on websites.

Future of cannabis looks good to me, lol

 

[siftedunity]

this kinda thread has come up a hundred times. but it seems to me that asking the question seems to scaremonger people on the forums and cause for a closed thread and arguments. fem plants are very useful, males are also very useful. I cant see a day in the near future where males will be extinct. plenty of breeders use males. so only breed with males.
why would males not be in existence anymore when they live wild?

 

[J-Icky]

In my opinion any true breeder should be using males to get to their end goal. Fems are useful for growers that don't have the time or space for males. Fems should not be used for breeding, but sadly so many pollen chuckers that call themselves breeders use them instead of doing the real work. That's why instead of finding a few a couple different keepers in each 10 pack, you are lucky to find one in 100 seeds.

Sadly most breeders today are really just pollen chuckers that take 2 "clone-only"(which is just lazy people not wanting to find their own keepers from regular seeds) plants, reverse one pollinate the other and maybe taking a certain f1 and back-crossing it to one of the original parents. Then they throw some stupid name on those seeds and claim to be a breeder. All they really are doing in further bottlenecking genetics that were already bottlenecked with lines like skunk, the widows, jack herer, haze, and northern lights.

 

[MJPassion]

The future holds a lot of bull shit & knockoffs & disrespectful pollen chuckers that are in the game for the fast dime rather than the slow nickel.

They care not whos toes they step on!
All they want is that bling bling & to ride on them dubs & to post IG pics of cash stacks.

On the other hand,
There are a few, a very few, that care about the work they do.

 

[Bud_Man10]

True dat brutha MJ!!!

Peace
BM

 

[REALPOTency]

bagseed hype,poly hybrid, & hermi lucky pollination is the future....
which prefer?

 

[Zitz]

I very rarely grow feminized seeds or polyhybrids, I prefer IBL's and f1's,
and that still leaves plenty of choice given the amount of seed sellers out there.

The future for me comes from those searching for their grail (or close to it),
and focusing on breeding that line for its best qualities.
Then we will have more "solid" genetics out there to be used for crossing or just inbreeding.

But "fem sells" - its supply and demand and unfortunatley many growers are falling for the hype and wanting the "latest on offer"... Well seeds aint iphones so the newest doesn't mean better, nor does mishmashing hybrids upon polyhybrids produce superior seed.

Im seeing less stable genetics, more hermies, and weaker plants that will rot in outdoor conditions.

Im just thankful to the growers that keep the old lines going.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

I suppose the one in a million plant can be quite rewarding but if you were ever to loose that plant knowing it's essentially impossible to ever find that pheno again might be very frustrating.
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HOW TRUE... when we 1st started growing 15+ years ago, we had a 'great' jock horror from nirvana... probably a two-buck seed, but it was and still is the best weed we have ever grown... we didn't take a cutting, and after growing out 2+ packs and a full pack of the 'real' jack herer nothing has come close to duplicating it... the gems are out there, but they are few and far in between