what causes "expansive" smoke?

[Chiefsmokingbud]

I don't necessarly think it's tied to triches. I can smaoke straight herb of certain strains and it's quite expansive. I can smoke kief collected from the same strain and it's quite the opposite. I tend to believe it's related to certain terpenes in the herb.

 

[Elevator Man]

American Spirit Organic eh? Sounds nice. I might see if I can get me some of that mail-order...

 

[Guest]

damn they used datura for that?

i read a bit on that after i saw a report on the news of some local kids overdosing on some psychadelic weed that grows absolutely Everywhere

Most of the kids that are overdosing are the same age as my younger brother and it sounds just like some of his friends to try something stupid like that.

I cant imagine it being used for good in any way. Ive read some stories of people who took too much of that shit and were never the same. They went nuts, tripping for the rest of there life.

Very interesting

 

[- ezra -]

I tend to believe it's related to certain terpenes in the herb.

Could be chief.

I have found more trich coverage generally does result i more lung expanding (or bronchi expanding) smoke, but I dont thing it is as straightforward as that. I think it is a reaction to certain vapours in the herb which may be concentrated in the trichomes. Certain strains def have this smoke which instantly expands the bronchi and can make your lips tingle. This is an effect I personally enjoy a lot.

 

[WAMEN]

motaco - nept . zamal. & rudedude.. you guys seem to be right .. even though i dunno whos experience is the real deal.. i believe it has something to do with the different chemical composition of different strain of marijuana IMO.... cause i grow different strains with the same care and flush and some are "exapandin" and some are not... ..

its the resin concentration IMO...

 

[Guest]

Its an excuse for blowing a good hit or just taking too large a hit.

 

[page1]

if you notice when smoking some good hash the smoke is very thick, and some bud can be very thin smoke. but if i get a realy good strain of bud it will give me the lung expansion and the good hash also gives it. so i think the more thc on the buds/in the hash the more your lungs expand because thc creates very thick smoke.

 

[Ogstradamus]

Expansive smoke IMO is a good indicator that you are smoking some potent bud. There is a difference between expanding in your lungs and burning your throat....throat burning is caused by chemical residue. I BELIEVE that the chest expansion is directly related to the amount of THC. Smoking hash you will notice huge expansion. Vaporizing also causes huge expansion. I like the expansion feeling, makes me feel like I got a satisfying hit.

 

[Guest]

i think it depends on how irritated your lungs become. some smoke is more likely to do it than others. Some smoke is heavy and thick others is just the opposite. mostly i believe its heat. take a slow hit and it seems rougher on neck take a quick big hit to sneak it by and that shit is going to catch up to you.





kinda like eating a shitload at once ur gonna get more in.. compared to eating slow and giving it time to digest

cool observation. after toking some granddaddy purps bubblehash, I gotta say that the second hit after the first hit of bubble in a glass bong or pipe is just lung explosion after the first hit is just vapors.

Lung Expansion for me equals Hack Hack your chest cavity just exploded. Which I get from the hashy pot, or really sticky buds.

 

[zamalito]

I disagree that it has anything to do with thc content. In my experience a potent sativa is less expansive than a more resinous indica or hashish that is of equal potency. In landrace samples on the average the more resinous a plant is the less pure (as far as thc purity at least) that resin tends to be.

As far as datura. I wouldn't call it a useless or evil substance. It is fairly mild if you just smoke the leaves. Consuming the seeds orally is what kills kids. When smoked you get mild visual distortions with a relaxing narcotic effect with no disassociative reaction.

 

[- ezra -]

I agree the Bronchial expansion may be directly caused by certain cannabinoid(s) Perhaps not THC itself because as Zam pointed out its not linked directly to potency. Perhaps one or more of the accessory cannabinoids are responsible.

Datura is a whole different topic. I new a few guys who were into it for a while. There was a datura tree in the local area in somebodies front yard as an ornamental tree. These guys would Chop up one or two flowers, boil them up and drink the tea. This would cause them to trip out hard for like 3 days at a time. It would take weeks to return to a normal state or mind. Neither of these three guys were completely sane afterwards. 2 are now schizofrenics and 1 guy is Bi-polar. All three ended up in the psichiatric hospital. I dont think the datura is soley responsible, but it was a factor in all three cases I think. Never heard or anyone smoking it, but I wouldn't be keen to try it myself (or any other heavy hallucinogen - ie shrooms or LSD) because I have a family history of mental illness (my father is schizophrenic).

 

[Guest]

I disagree that it has anything to do with thc content. In my experience a potent sativa is less expansive than a more resinous indica or hashish that is of equal potency. In landrace samples on the average the more resinous a plant is the less pure (as far as thc purity at least) that resin tends to be.

As far as datura. I wouldn't call it a useless or evil substance. It is fairly mild if you just smoke the leaves. Consuming the seeds orally is what kills kids. When smoked you get mild visual distortions with a relaxing narcotic effect with no disassociative reaction.

Interesting most cases i read of were oral consumption..

one was this 300 lb guy and this 150 lb guy both grind up some of the seeds and mix them with water
1 cup each

the big guy had it bad, but his friend had it much much worse, he stoped breathing, he just flat Oded. the mother of the child wrote back weeks later that the condition was not expected to change, and it seemed that he was in a state of constant fear based on the looks of horror on his face. i guess some people just dont see things the way they do originally once they try that kinda shit.
i dont prefer tripping at all, i hate being there and always fear being stuck in a trip(it doesnt even have to be a bad one, but i can only tolerate the world being different for so long)

weeds enough for me