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buzzed day
things looking good.don't know anything about coco growing,the only thread i read was -VT-he does coco.sorry i can't help but good luck and peace.
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IDK bro, but I think coco doesnt hold the nutes like soil or soilless does, so I would guess you should prolly flush them with a good dose of macros and some bloom nutes...maybe a little seaweed if u have it, it tends to fix most problems Ive ever had...Peace
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Hey bro, after reading and talking to caligreen, I've switched to his method of watering. I was watering once a day with 15% run off, but seeing all those wasted nutes pissed me off. His method is.... water what the plant needs, hardly any run off... I end up watering every second day. Then after the 3rd week of watering do a "leach" his term leach is flushing the coco with plain water, this gets rid of any build ups. Do this once a week until flush week. If I confused you, have a chat with caligreen, he can explain it better. My first coco run I had the same problem you are having. I was using the runoff nutes to water cause I hated to see the waste and
was pretty much giving my plants salt from the runoff. Have you been using cal mag or some kind of micro? That could be the problem too... hope you get it in check man, coco rocks!!!
was pretty much giving my plants salt from the runoff. Have you been using cal mag or some kind of micro? That could be the problem too... hope you get it in check man, coco rocks!!!
thanks buzzed...i'll keep that in mind mate..if it does't stop i can PM one of these guys..Like bonecarver or some1
heya Zeus...
no seawed..only hydro phonics of holland nutes....specific for coco...and i just read some threads and indeed it does not hold the nutes like in soil...and i'm not gonne add sftuff before i can easely gro in this coco medium.. atleast first get her sickness right
Heya B/R
no actually you gave me some help lol...i surtenly do understand what you are saying !
i did use a pinch of epsom salt ...very little though....no other additives i've given them..Only there grow;bloom ;and micro bottle
this should be my scedule
exept i started off with a smaller first dose..at around 600 ppm's
second was plain watering...3th woz again nutes at around 600 and 4th watering woz plain with a pinch of epsom and shit is starting to happen now..
plan of action
i did put her in the flowerroom do dry out a bit more....2 night i will flush them with heavyer solutuion of nutes...previous nutes wil be gone and replace it with a full feeeding...i'll check runoff and PPM's when it comes out...
but last Q to get it straigh for shure.....do i need to feed every day or any other day....if she's dry...??and that for 3 a 4 weeks and then a plain watering....?
thanks for the help guys !!
here's some goodies for ya all...
heya Zeus...
no seawed..only hydro phonics of holland nutes....specific for coco...and i just read some threads and indeed it does not hold the nutes like in soil...and i'm not gonne add sftuff before i can easely gro in this coco medium.. atleast first get her sickness right
Heya B/R
no actually you gave me some help lol...i surtenly do understand what you are saying !
i did use a pinch of epsom salt ...very little though....no other additives i've given them..Only there grow;bloom ;and micro bottle
this should be my scedule
exept i started off with a smaller first dose..at around 600 ppm's
second was plain watering...3th woz again nutes at around 600 and 4th watering woz plain with a pinch of epsom and shit is starting to happen now..
plan of action
i did put her in the flowerroom do dry out a bit more....2 night i will flush them with heavyer solutuion of nutes...previous nutes wil be gone and replace it with a full feeeding...i'll check runoff and PPM's when it comes out...
but last Q to get it straigh for shure.....do i need to feed every day or any other day....if she's dry...??and that for 3 a 4 weeks and then a plain watering....?
thanks for the help guys !!
here's some goodies for ya all...
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Karma Genetics
Just running by my friend Looking good as always here. Smoked some martian in Adam last week. That Nevils x Mango looks great my friend.
I water when they're a bit dry not over dry, ends up every second day for now. Their only 3 weeks in so after the roots fill the pot I may end up watering everyday. The plan is to do this until the 3rd week of flower, by this time there will be salt build up from not watering to runoff, so just pick one of your watering days to flush or leach as cali calls it. Give them a good dose of water till it pours out the bottom, let it sit for a bit and do it again. They probably won't need anything for a few days then go back to your feeding schedule. Then do a "leach" once, each week till you get to your flush week. I'm not sure about your nutes, I'm using canna's coco a and b, great product if you end up doing more coco in the future, not overly priced either. I have used a little epsom in mid flower before as well as some molasses. Remember when you flush do it with plain water, don't waste your nutes bro.
heya Karma
thanks for dropping in my friend....what did you smoke ...Martian haze or martian mean green?...
those neville's mango will have a good yield...almost can't wait to smoke it
and about Nomercy....i don't know for shure...i like to go ...but its a saterday and i think i'm not free at that time....if so i will PM you for shure...still need to have a rendez vous with ya :smile:
that is noted B/R...thanks again.... when i flushed her 2night when light go on...i will take some pics..... should be good as a before and after shot of the probs i have...but i'm quite shure she needs more food :smile:
thanks for dropping in my friend....what did you smoke ...Martian haze or martian mean green?...
those neville's mango will have a good yield...almost can't wait to smoke it
and about Nomercy....i don't know for shure...i like to go ...but its a saterday and i think i'm not free at that time....if so i will PM you for shure...still need to have a rendez vous with ya :smile:
that is noted B/R...thanks again.... when i flushed her 2night when light go on...i will take some pics..... should be good as a before and after shot of the probs i have...but i'm quite shure she needs more food :smile:
that mango is a turn on brotha core. new gear going out in fancy packages i see. you da man. i saw what came maj's way. nice stuff dude. caution....seed lab men at work.
hey wattup Core,lookin the bomb yo.as always everything is top notch yo.i just flipped 2 mango hazes last week they was like a foot and a half tall trained...im hopin they dont get tooo bad on me...lol
will be fun to watch cause this is the most staiva strain ive ever grown bro.
that oil got ya baked i bet.oil always looks potent as hell to me.i had some once lasted a while too made a bowl smoke forever...had me super lifted too.
peace bro-Y-
will be fun to watch cause this is the most staiva strain ive ever grown bro.
that oil got ya baked i bet.oil always looks potent as hell to me.i had some once lasted a while too made a bowl smoke forever...had me super lifted too.
peace bro-Y-
like not gut new pages without pix. happy weekend core bro and bum shiva on the bho stuff. peace to the rest of the core crew!
Core said:heya Dog :smile:
yea the DC x PTK is kinda big ..but the plain DC's are def not up to par next to the Crippel Creek, i think they are called like that...??
and the neville's should give me some realy nice buds....i have very huge cola's on them
i will be watching ! :wink:
heya Tonatiuh
yea mate,they are about 1.8 m from the ground up ,and the stretch has stopped and if the DC x PTK filles in i' will be quite happy with it...she's over a 1.4 m tall with pot...and pots are about 30cm
and sharing is caring my friend :smile:
thank you TylerDurden !
they are indeed the stars of the show.... for me atleast.....as is the crippel creek? i'm about 3 weeks + in but i'm not shure on dates mate i go by trichs :wink:
nice to have you
small update... just some pics from 3 weeks + in
under the skirt of the kaua'i kushes
from above !
2 cropped plants....SSSDH and AH
and a few mains of the nevilles haze x mango haze
and my 2 fullest growing Martian haze's
heya Sir
she is is't she...gotte love her stature...very lanky girls with huge cola's ..hehehe
yea mate i put some beaners out....gotte admit did't think of you this round....but/and if maj finds anything that he likes .....i'm shure i he will share it with you :smile:
heya Tonatiuh :smile:
she will have her stretch...but if she's trained she won't be as wild i suppose...you can atleast expect her to double her hight if not more...and i think you won't regret growing a haze like that.
and the oil is good but not super...but it will keep me buzzed for a whle
hehehe esbe wants pics....i can oblige,but its no porn....
its the problem pics i shot last night.....its my coco prob...lol...I do show my problems in my threads my friend
maybe you can chime in esbe :smile:
you can clearly seee the problem i woz talkng about....
i did flush with nutes previous morning...about 620 ppm's and she did come back up a little....but the yellowing seems to progress....its not much but it should green her up no?
and seeing the damage that is going on now ...I'm thinking a cal/Mag problem?
ohw yea....and some springtails ..AGAIN !!!!!!
...there's 3 in the pic....
she is is't she...gotte love her stature...very lanky girls with huge cola's ..hehehe
yea mate i put some beaners out....gotte admit did't think of you this round....but/and if maj finds anything that he likes .....i'm shure i he will share it with you :smile:
heya Tonatiuh :smile:
she will have her stretch...but if she's trained she won't be as wild i suppose...you can atleast expect her to double her hight if not more...and i think you won't regret growing a haze like that.
and the oil is good but not super...but it will keep me buzzed for a whle
hehehe esbe wants pics....i can oblige,but its no porn....
its the problem pics i shot last night.....its my coco prob...lol...I do show my problems in my threads my friend
maybe you can chime in esbe :smile:
you can clearly seee the problem i woz talkng about....
i did flush with nutes previous morning...about 620 ppm's and she did come back up a little....but the yellowing seems to progress....its not much but it should green her up no?
and seeing the damage that is going on now ...I'm thinking a cal/Mag problem?
ohw yea....and some springtails ..AGAIN !!!!!!
...there's 3 in the pic....
Springtails?? That sucks bro
Seems like alot of us having yellowing issues, I have been fighting it for a bit. I cleared out teh soil and started again just last night with a heavy guano mix, hopefully that wakes them up
Good luck with teh issues brother
Seems like alot of us having yellowing issues, I have been fighting it for a bit. I cleared out teh soil and started again just last night with a heavy guano mix, hopefully that wakes them up
Good luck with teh issues brother
I think you're right Core, give them a dose of cal/mag or something like that... or molasses if you have that. Get those bugs bro!
Good luck fighting the bugs!
Good luck fighting the bugs!
Nice thread, Core. Gonna take a while to read this one--wow, lol. Your plants are looking great. looks like your working with some good crosses. Impressive work--and you're a magnanimous guy I've read :smile:
I agree with B/R--that's a cal/mag issue. I read the post regarding the Advanced Holland coco nutes (which should have some extra cal/mag--unfamiliar with that nutrient profile) But, perhaps the issue is not nutrient profile related.
Are you using tap water? Is your RH% on the high side? What's the pH of your solution when you feed it?
I'm loathe to give advice. I'll just share that I've had plants look like that when I was using tap water (in my case it lead to Ca buildup--and, yes, flushing with esalts will flush excess Ca from the 'web'--which may be why you cite improvement after adding esalts?), had high RH, let the pH drift up, or underfed. It wasn't the nutes in my case. Not defending the Advanced Holland product 'cause I am unfamilar with it--just a thought.
Maybe you need to ramp up the nutes a bit--another possibility.
Sometimes when I run into lockout, I flush and regroup.
I'm sure you'll get it sorted out--best of luck with your foray into coco
Good luck fighting the bugs!
Nice thread, Core. Gonna take a while to read this one--wow, lol. Your plants are looking great. looks like your working with some good crosses. Impressive work--and you're a magnanimous guy I've read :smile:
I agree with B/R--that's a cal/mag issue. I read the post regarding the Advanced Holland coco nutes (which should have some extra cal/mag--unfamiliar with that nutrient profile) But, perhaps the issue is not nutrient profile related.
Are you using tap water? Is your RH% on the high side? What's the pH of your solution when you feed it?
I'm loathe to give advice. I'll just share that I've had plants look like that when I was using tap water (in my case it lead to Ca buildup--and, yes, flushing with esalts will flush excess Ca from the 'web'--which may be why you cite improvement after adding esalts?), had high RH, let the pH drift up, or underfed. It wasn't the nutes in my case. Not defending the Advanced Holland product 'cause I am unfamilar with it--just a thought.
Maybe you need to ramp up the nutes a bit--another possibility.
Sometimes when I run into lockout, I flush and regroup.
I'm sure you'll get it sorted out--best of luck with your foray into coco
yeah no worries mate. i wasnt razzing you, just complimenting your hard work and style. i am sure that i am welcome to a keeper when they come as he would be. for the future if ya ever were to go about it again, sending either one of us doubled up would save a stamp and packaging. lol. we live a mile away.
dude on that mango... you are right those colas are gonna be jaw droppers. HUGE.
i have a ? about your Kaui K. in your latest pic there is a few leaves taco'd and curled down. my purp did that at beginning of flower also. i thought at first it was a ca/mag issue, but never confirmed my beliefs and was unable to find anything similar in the infirmary at the time. just wondering what you could input bro.
issue on your girl i am gonna jump on the wagon and say ca/ mag issue. sounds like you gotz it handled already though in true core fashion. no wasting time lol.
thanks again
sir
dude on that mango... you are right those colas are gonna be jaw droppers. HUGE.
i have a ? about your Kaui K. in your latest pic there is a few leaves taco'd and curled down. my purp did that at beginning of flower also. i thought at first it was a ca/mag issue, but never confirmed my beliefs and was unable to find anything similar in the infirmary at the time. just wondering what you could input bro.
issue on your girl i am gonna jump on the wagon and say ca/ mag issue. sounds like you gotz it handled already though in true core fashion. no wasting time lol.
thanks again
sir
Hiya Core
I have no coco experience, but I have issues like this more often than I like. I flush to low ppms and start at the fert concentration you did and ramp it up from there. Where I am there's a product called Green Stay - N, Ca, Mg, Fe - I foliar spray lower leaves one or two days and it usually greens them up while they wait for the right fert level.
I have no doubt you'll suss it out shortly
As an aside - I also send props on the Mango Haze - what a plant!
Peace -MGJ
I have no coco experience, but I have issues like this more often than I like. I flush to low ppms and start at the fert concentration you did and ramp it up from there. Where I am there's a product called Green Stay - N, Ca, Mg, Fe - I foliar spray lower leaves one or two days and it usually greens them up while they wait for the right fert level.
I have no doubt you'll suss it out shortly
As an aside - I also send props on the Mango Haze - what a plant!
Peace -MGJ
heya esbe mate !!
i am trying that for the last year or so....i always seem to get'm back....even after cleanup and bleaches....there's one room that is't realy bugproof...its my veggieroom....if these pests are living downhere i'm fucked....and then there's only one solution.....make the room more secure for bugs.....
Np on the last....i'm to am chalking new stuff up here...
My main man Dog !
yea mate,springtails.....seems you don't know them good?...you can push the link in my sig to have a look Dog....ether way...and they say they are no cannabis pest.....I say F.U.C.K.E.M...they have been meddeling with my crop for a year now....in big numbers they are a bitch and they 'WILL' eat your decaying roots.....if nt the healthy ones!? resulting in a lesser harvest and lesser development of buds and mains !!
bout the yellowing.....did't notice realy...exept you that is ...lol...but this is my first try with coco ...so i am allowed to have a few fuck ups ^^
i'll try and sort this ....'if' i can lol
B/R
seems like it no....i'll feed her that next watering...just as a suppliment for now...nog gonne feed it next time....hope it greens up and then i know the cause.....while i'm at it i'll take the mediums ph to see if i'm in the correct zone....and i'm trying to get'm !! lol
heya VT its a honor to have ya :smile:
and thanks for the kind words...but you should't read the whole thread....i'm gonne start a other 1 real soon :smile:
yea seems like it no...there's a couple of days between this post and she did green up...not al that much but there is some improvement....
i am using tap...@210 ppm's at 8,13 ph...so normally that should cover the calsium needs?my PH is on the low side...between 30 and 40 %
i ph after nutes....and i get it down to 5.8 before watering
and i think you could be right ...i should bump the nutes a bit...highest i've given is 620 PPM's in total..nway thanks for taking the time to come in and post...if you wanne know how it turns out you gotte come back again
@Sir
i know mate i know...and i'm shure he will share 'if ' he finds something to keep ^^
about the taco leaves..I do think i know why that is.....i've bought organic pre ferted soil and they feel it...i think thats why i have taco leaves...i've not feed them in a couple of weeks....and thats atleast 8 weeks now....still affraid to add PK13/14 ....lol....but i did this morning @ 1/4 dose...so thats my take on it :smile:
heya my friend Mr GJ
i to did flush with low ppm's ...but i think i should bump it Nway....although she did green up a little ...but not as the dark green as i'm used to ....she's still to wet to water again....i'll flush it again next time with some cal/Mag and about 700 - 800 ppm's of feeding...that should do the trick in most cases :wink:
hhehehe a guy after my taste...i like the nevillesx mango 2
i am trying that for the last year or so....i always seem to get'm back....even after cleanup and bleaches....there's one room that is't realy bugproof...its my veggieroom....if these pests are living downhere i'm fucked....and then there's only one solution.....make the room more secure for bugs.....
Np on the last....i'm to am chalking new stuff up here...
My main man Dog !
yea mate,springtails.....seems you don't know them good?...you can push the link in my sig to have a look Dog....ether way...and they say they are no cannabis pest.....I say F.U.C.K.E.M...they have been meddeling with my crop for a year now....in big numbers they are a bitch and they 'WILL' eat your decaying roots.....if nt the healthy ones!? resulting in a lesser harvest and lesser development of buds and mains !!
bout the yellowing.....did't notice realy...exept you that is ...lol...but this is my first try with coco ...so i am allowed to have a few fuck ups ^^
i'll try and sort this ....'if' i can lol
B/R
seems like it no....i'll feed her that next watering...just as a suppliment for now...nog gonne feed it next time....hope it greens up and then i know the cause.....while i'm at it i'll take the mediums ph to see if i'm in the correct zone....and i'm trying to get'm !! lol
heya VT its a honor to have ya :smile:
and thanks for the kind words...but you should't read the whole thread....i'm gonne start a other 1 real soon :smile:
yea seems like it no...there's a couple of days between this post and she did green up...not al that much but there is some improvement....
i am using tap...@210 ppm's at 8,13 ph...so normally that should cover the calsium needs?my PH is on the low side...between 30 and 40 %
i ph after nutes....and i get it down to 5.8 before watering
and i think you could be right ...i should bump the nutes a bit...highest i've given is 620 PPM's in total..nway thanks for taking the time to come in and post...if you wanne know how it turns out you gotte come back again
@Sir
i know mate i know...and i'm shure he will share 'if ' he finds something to keep ^^
about the taco leaves..I do think i know why that is.....i've bought organic pre ferted soil and they feel it...i think thats why i have taco leaves...i've not feed them in a couple of weeks....and thats atleast 8 weeks now....still affraid to add PK13/14 ....lol....but i did this morning @ 1/4 dose...so thats my take on it :smile:
heya my friend Mr GJ
i to did flush with low ppm's ...but i think i should bump it Nway....although she did green up a little ...but not as the dark green as i'm used to ....she's still to wet to water again....i'll flush it again next time with some cal/Mag and about 700 - 800 ppm's of feeding...that should do the trick in most cases :wink:
hhehehe a guy after my taste...i like the nevillesx mango 2
Hey bro are those nutes your using buffered? If they are ph your water between 5.2 to 6.2 before you add your nutes, that is if they are prebuffered. Could be a lockout issue. I had that problem on my first coco run. Take care bro.
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not sure where my yellowing is coming from yet
but at 5 + weeks there wont be much i can about it now, man the p3 is a killer plant so far
super sugar smelling, and sticky is not the word bro, amazing. I so cannot wait for a second release of that ome, i can already tell it is going to b a great smoke.
but at 5 + weeks there wont be much i can about it now, man the p3 is a killer plant so far
super sugar smelling, and sticky is not the word bro, amazing. I so cannot wait for a second release of that ome, i can already tell it is going to b a great smoke.
