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Feds not changing marijuana policy, even if 3 states legalize it, US official says
By Reuters
LOS ANGELES - A top Justice Department official has said in a television interview that the federal government is ready to combat any "dangers" of state-sanctioned recreational pot, amid criticism of the Obama administration for its relative silence on legalization drives in three states.
Voters in Colorado, Washington state and Oregon are set to vote Nov. 6 on whether to legalize and tax marijuana sales, raising the possibility of a showdown with the federal government, which views pot as an illegal narcotic.
Deputy Attorney General James Cole, in comments to "60 Minutes" posted on Saturday to the website of CBS affiliate KCNC-TV in Denver, said his office's stance on pot would be "the same as it's always been" if voters approved legalization.
"We're going to take a look at whether or not there are dangers to the community from the sale of marijuana and we're going to go after those dangers," Cole told "60 Minutes" in an outtake from a report on Colorado's medical marijuana industry due to air Sunday, according to the CBS affiliate.
Cole's statement is an indication the federal government, which has raided medical pot dispensaries in several of the 17 states that allow cannabis as medicine, could also take aim at state-sanctioned recreational marijuana.
It also represents a break with the Obama administration's relative silence about the pot referendums, which has led to uncertainty about whether federal officials would stop states from taxing and regulating sales of pot in special stores to those 21 and older, as proposed under each of the three state initiatives before voters.
Representatives for the Justice Department did not return calls or emails seeking comment on Cole's remarks.
A top legalization backer, however, dismissed them as "innocuous," unlike the stance Attorney General Eric Holder took in 2010 just weeks before a failed California referendum to legalize pot.
Voters in three states will decide next month on whether to become the first states to legalize marijuana for recreational use and doing so would put Colorado, Washington and Oregon in direct conflict with the federal law. The Huffington Post's Ryan Grim discusses.
'Wait and see'
In 2010, Holder issued a toughly worded letter that said his office "strongly" opposed the California proposal and would "vigorously enforce" drug laws against participants in the recreational pot trade, even if state law permitted it.
Holder's statement is credited with helping to persuade some California voters to reject the proposal.
"Compared to what they did two years ago in California, to have their federal posture be essentially a wait-and-see approach is encouraging," said Ethan Nadelmann, head of the Drug Policy Alliance, which through affiliates has funded marijuana legalization campaigns.
Polls show the American public is increasingly leaning toward legalizing pot, but no state has taken that step.
Nadelmann said pot legalization is popular with young people and independents, two groups of voters crucial to President Barack Obama's re-election campaign, and that his administration is "being smart in basically not weighing in at this time."
Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in the United States. Pot activists say prohibition fails to prevent its use and enriches criminal cartels, but opponents of legalization say it would endanger health and public safety.
Former heads of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration in September sent a letter to Holder urging him to publicly oppose the legalization referendums. On Monday, a former federal official expressed dismay at the Obama administration's silence.
"It's shocking, because all you have to do is say things that this administration's already said," John Walters, who served as "drug czar" to former President George W. Bush, told reporters on a conference call.
Cole's remarks to "60 Minutes" were in response to a question about the possibility of recreational pot being allowed in Colorado, according to the station, which posted a video with the outtake on its website.
"I think it is pretty clear from this video that the Obama administration won't take any legalization measure lying down," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to Gil Kerlikowske, the Obama administration's drug policy director, said in an email.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-legalize-it-us-official-says?lite&ocid=msnhp
edit: apologies...for the buzzkill, an outright bushwhacking imo.
By Reuters
LOS ANGELES - A top Justice Department official has said in a television interview that the federal government is ready to combat any "dangers" of state-sanctioned recreational pot, amid criticism of the Obama administration for its relative silence on legalization drives in three states.
Voters in Colorado, Washington state and Oregon are set to vote Nov. 6 on whether to legalize and tax marijuana sales, raising the possibility of a showdown with the federal government, which views pot as an illegal narcotic.
Deputy Attorney General James Cole, in comments to "60 Minutes" posted on Saturday to the website of CBS affiliate KCNC-TV in Denver, said his office's stance on pot would be "the same as it's always been" if voters approved legalization.
"We're going to take a look at whether or not there are dangers to the community from the sale of marijuana and we're going to go after those dangers," Cole told "60 Minutes" in an outtake from a report on Colorado's medical marijuana industry due to air Sunday, according to the CBS affiliate.
Cole's statement is an indication the federal government, which has raided medical pot dispensaries in several of the 17 states that allow cannabis as medicine, could also take aim at state-sanctioned recreational marijuana.
It also represents a break with the Obama administration's relative silence about the pot referendums, which has led to uncertainty about whether federal officials would stop states from taxing and regulating sales of pot in special stores to those 21 and older, as proposed under each of the three state initiatives before voters.
Representatives for the Justice Department did not return calls or emails seeking comment on Cole's remarks.
A top legalization backer, however, dismissed them as "innocuous," unlike the stance Attorney General Eric Holder took in 2010 just weeks before a failed California referendum to legalize pot.
Voters in three states will decide next month on whether to become the first states to legalize marijuana for recreational use and doing so would put Colorado, Washington and Oregon in direct conflict with the federal law. The Huffington Post's Ryan Grim discusses.
'Wait and see'
In 2010, Holder issued a toughly worded letter that said his office "strongly" opposed the California proposal and would "vigorously enforce" drug laws against participants in the recreational pot trade, even if state law permitted it.
Holder's statement is credited with helping to persuade some California voters to reject the proposal.
"Compared to what they did two years ago in California, to have their federal posture be essentially a wait-and-see approach is encouraging," said Ethan Nadelmann, head of the Drug Policy Alliance, which through affiliates has funded marijuana legalization campaigns.
Polls show the American public is increasingly leaning toward legalizing pot, but no state has taken that step.
Nadelmann said pot legalization is popular with young people and independents, two groups of voters crucial to President Barack Obama's re-election campaign, and that his administration is "being smart in basically not weighing in at this time."
Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in the United States. Pot activists say prohibition fails to prevent its use and enriches criminal cartels, but opponents of legalization say it would endanger health and public safety.
Former heads of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration in September sent a letter to Holder urging him to publicly oppose the legalization referendums. On Monday, a former federal official expressed dismay at the Obama administration's silence.
"It's shocking, because all you have to do is say things that this administration's already said," John Walters, who served as "drug czar" to former President George W. Bush, told reporters on a conference call.
Cole's remarks to "60 Minutes" were in response to a question about the possibility of recreational pot being allowed in Colorado, according to the station, which posted a video with the outtake on its website.
"I think it is pretty clear from this video that the Obama administration won't take any legalization measure lying down," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to Gil Kerlikowske, the Obama administration's drug policy director, said in an email.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-legalize-it-us-official-says?lite&ocid=msnhp
edit: apologies...for the buzzkill, an outright bushwhacking imo.
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Bud buster
Member
It's all going to happen one day hopefully soon.
This our War on our freedom. We need to stand up to the bullying tactics of the government and keep moving forward. Keep fighting the good fight my Canna Brothers!
qupee
Member
Lot of people said that ~40 years ago and now many of their lives are coming to an end and it's still quite illegal.
KUSHEATER1
Active member
maybe in my next lifetime lol.
Bud buster
Member
But now we have laws allowing medical use and I'm sure one of the states will allow recreational use hopefully all.
Colorado's a "done deal", with voters in favor of legalization for recreational use.
but the legislation by states to legalize is new. its a good thing, and possibly moving forward finally.
This isnt just an issue of legal recreational use. It is also an issue of state's right's.
The .gov needs to be told to go eff themselves.
However, the Feds hold the bag of goodies the states are all addicted to.
Highway funds, educational funds,leo funds and toys, you name it.
Guaranteed that when the feds threaten to take the goodies away the states will roll over like a cheap whore.
The states need to promise to protect the citizens. Need to honor the citizens votes.
If they are willing to sell you a caregivers license, allow you to open a dispensary, pay taxes and permit fees or allow recreational use based on citizens votes then they need to be there when the fed goons show up to stand their ground with the people and tell the feds to go back to that cesspool in D.C.
The .gov needs to be told to go eff themselves.
However, the Feds hold the bag of goodies the states are all addicted to.
Highway funds, educational funds,leo funds and toys, you name it.
Guaranteed that when the feds threaten to take the goodies away the states will roll over like a cheap whore.
The states need to promise to protect the citizens. Need to honor the citizens votes.
If they are willing to sell you a caregivers license, allow you to open a dispensary, pay taxes and permit fees or allow recreational use based on citizens votes then they need to be there when the fed goons show up to stand their ground with the people and tell the feds to go back to that cesspool in D.C.
The way the Oregon law is written the State Attny General will have to by law, defend anyone arrested by the Feds. The law in Oregon may or may not pass. The anti side has way more money. Although the owner of Progressive Insurance has donated a bunch of money. So has Rick Steves, he's a travel writer and tour leader. He said A dam is his fav city. He does travelogue on PBS here.
The Oregon law is also written so that it will be defended in the Federal courts. Over all it has some good and some bad. It has been said that of the three, the Oregon law is most broad and least likely to pass. I will vote yes. Already have my ballot, we mail them in very convenient.
The Oregon law is also written so that it will be defended in the Federal courts. Over all it has some good and some bad. It has been said that of the three, the Oregon law is most broad and least likely to pass. I will vote yes. Already have my ballot, we mail them in very convenient.
Oregon's been voting by mail (only) for several election cycles so early voting means absolutely nothing one way or the other on any ballot initiative.
The problem with the Oregon initiative is to a great degree the sponsor - Paul Stanford and his entourage.
CC
The problem with the Oregon initiative is to a great degree the sponsor - Paul Stanford and his entourage.
CC
go to norml.org, they always have the latest polls from colorado, washington, and oregon, those are the 3 states right?
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DryNobBob
intrade has the odds. Oregon is at 11%, gonna be shot down, WA is at 74%, prolly pass and CO is 50%, too close to call, Go WA, wooohooo
