Were's the Jamaicain Strains at?

[Guest]

ISS

ISS

is island sweet skunk not a Hawaiian and not a Jamaican hybrid?

it looks like we are to late. They are not listed anymore. The straight version anyways. They have a cross of ISS

 

[RoNdO]

is island sweet skunk not a Hawaiian and not a Jamaican hybrid?

I believe GoldDust said the straight version of the Jamaican isn't there but there is an ISS X Jamaican cross listed

 

[Guest]

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thats wild man..

i always had this crzy idea to cross jamaican lambs bread (if i ever get it ) to my kona gold and call it 'Honeymoon' LOL

 

[Guest]

I've spent some long periods down there. IBC is right.. many outsiders have brought in Indica strains and the Jamaicans have crossed many of their homegrown sativas (many of low potency but high yield). The result is a higher quality herb in my opinion. The island needed some new genetics.. and many Jamaican growers have taken these Indica crosses and grown them in cool, shady mountain areas instead of low lying valleys where they used to grow their tired, inbred sativas. New genetic stock can't hurt, especially when on an island.

 

[afropips]

Here is the Jamaican Sugar Bush purple stemmed male I mentioned.

 

[afropips]

GP ,
I never heard of any Ethiopians emmigrating to Jamaica.
The majority of Carribean Africans are of West African descent.

Indian Cultivars is what has been reported as the major basis of Jamaican weed.
The word Ganja widely used in Jamaica is an Indian word.
I expect some African has crept in there via South America.
Its documented that Angolan grass was allowed to the slaves
that were hauled off to the South Americas.
Many South American weed cultivars have there roots in Africa.

Happy Hunting.......

 

[guineapig]

ya mon afropips! i was going to directly pm you regarding this Jamaica question so i am very glad you managed to chime in here.....

i was sure there had to be a Rastafarian connection between Ethiopian and Jamaica but really had no evidence to support that claim......it is so interesting to me how certain strains move around the world and adapt to the new environment....

kind regards, GP

GP edit: i found some historical info.....

"It is assumed that marijuana came to Jamaica with the Indians. This also explains why in Jamaica a Hindi word is used for marijuana, namely ganja. Through the Indians ganja spread to the lower classes of society; in fact, the black section of the population. Ganja is currently a widely-used substance in the countryside and in the poor districts of the large towns. To Rastafarians, the followers of the religious black consciousness movement Rastafari, the reason for using ganja is more profound. They look upon ganja as a holy plant, which enables them to deepen their faith."

 

[Tafari]

GP ,

Its documented that Angolan grass was allowed to the slaves
that were hauled off to the South Americas.
Many South American weed cultivars have there roots in Africa.

Afropips, can you give me some more info on this? I have been searching for a long time to try and find information like this.

I also heard that slaves in america where able to grow small crops for personal use? Im really interested and would love more info.

Peace; Tafari

 

[Tafari]

I have the Jamaican SugarBush.

I also have the Orange Hill Magic that I have not tested yet.

When I get a gap & if there are enough requests I will move it forward.
....

Afropips,

Will you release these two strains pure?

Tafari

 

[Guest]

received some beans last week, BeerBud, its a line thats a 3X cross of different jamaicans. anyone heard of it. think its been around awhile.

used to be a little hotty here that had Orange Hill jamaican beans.

CBF

 

[RoNdO]

I'm in search of some jamaican genetics as well hope to see afropips put what he's got out there.

 

[Tafari]

Its documented that Angolan grass was allowed to the slaves that were hauled off to the South Americas.QUOTE]

Well the story that follows isnt about weed but it good - and make you wonder if they would test the pipes found what would be in them?

Tafari

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Rio uncovers African slave graves

Thursday 29 December 2005,
A crude burial ground for African slaves that historians had thought was lost, has been accidentally uncovered in Brazil.


The remodelling project at a 19th century home in Rio's old Gamboa district came to an abrupt halt.

Labourers digging in the yard to check the foundations had found human bones. Thousands of them.

The home-owner, Ana de la Merced Guimaraes, soon discovered that her house was sitting on the Cemeterio dos Pretos Novos - Portuguese for Cemetery of New Blacks.

Ten years later, the city wants to preserve the find as a rare window into Brazil's colonial past - and one of the darkest pages of its history.

Andre Zambelli, head of the Rio's Cultural Heritage Department, said: "It's certainly one of the city's most important discoveries."

He added that "it shows how the slave trade happened, confirms what's in textbooks, puts history in our hands."

Workers have recovered 5563 bone fragments and teeth, some rounded or carved in styles characteristic of people that lived along the Congo River in Mozambique and South Africa.

Historical pieces

They also found pieces of fine English china, stoneware and African clay pipes, dishes and metal ornaments dumped in the graves as trash.


Rio consulted experts from New York, where the African Burial Ground was discovered in lower Manhattan during construction of a skyscraper in 1991, with the remains of at least 419 slaves or free blacks buried in colonial times.
The US government designated the site a National Historic Landmark in 1993.
"It's the same connection, a re-encounter with African history, labour and culture," Zambelli said.

Rio believes its cemetery was bigger.

More than 20,000 bodies probably were buried there between 1769 and 1830, Zambelli said, but no one knows exactly because no records were kept. They were the bodies of slaves who died before they could be sold.

'Rio's holocaust'

Brazil was the New World's biggest market for African slaves.

Of an estimated 10 million Africans brought to the Americas, nearly half came to Brazil, where they worked in gold and diamond mines, or on coffee and sugar plantations.

When Rio became Brazil's capital in 1763, residents soon began objecting to the squalid slave market in downtown streets, near the palace where the Portuguese royal family took up residence after fleeing Portugal ahead of Napoleon's invading army in 1807.
So, the market was relocated to the marshy Gamboa district, which became the unofficial graveyard for slaves after a Franciscan churchyard filled up. Bodies were piled in
stacks on the street and often burned before burial under a few shovelfuls of soil.

The treatment still rankles rights activists.

Marcelo Monteiro at the Municipal Council for the Defence of Black Rights says: "It was Rio's holocaust.

"Few people know about it. We're re-discovering a story that was erased from history."

Social injustice

Haidar Abu Talib, of the Muslim Charity Society, said many of the slaves buried in the cemetery were Muslims.

He said former slaves remained "invisible" even after slavery was abolished in 1888 and some Brazilians would like to keep it that way.

"When slavery ended, the government - run by the elites that always benefited from slave labour - wasn't concerned about making ex-slaves full citizens," Talib said at a ceremony for Black Consciousness Day.
"Even today, their descendants are victims of social injustice."

Although nearly half of Brazil's 183 million people are black or mixed-race, the country's cherished self-image as a "racial democracy" is a myth.

Most of the poorest Brazilians are Black.

Blacks comprise 70% of the poorest tenth of Brazilians and just 16% of the wealthiest tenth, the United Nations Development Programme said recently.

Afro-Brazilians earned an average of 173 Brazilian reals ($74) a month in 2000, less than half the pay for Whites in 1980, it said.

"The data merely corroborate what is already visible to any observer: The farther one goes up along the power hierarchy, the Whiter Brazilian society becomes," the UN report said.

Rio officials want to bring Black history more in the open by creating a walking tour and putting the cemetery on tourism routes.

Forgotten history

"We want to make an open-air museum, with a tour from the docks to the cemetery, with bilingual folders and a map showing where slaves were displayed and sold," Zambelli said.
"Africa contributed to the founding of the city."

But Guimaraes is skeptical the city will invest in the cemetery that her workers stumbled on.

Officials have done little to preserve the bones, she said, and rains washed away some of the exposed remains. Her neighbours resent that she told the city about the cemetery.

"I don't have anybody's support," she said.

"People ask me why I'm doing this, but the more I learn about how the Africans were abused and realise it's been forgotten, I swear they won't forget it here, not while I have the strength."

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/26D...60C9828EEBA.htm

 

[hueyp]

very good read..Ras..one love hueyp

 

[Guest]

Jamaican ,ya mon...right here

Jamaican ,ya mon...right here













Negril,West End Ja WI...Xtabi
Sav La Mar...Westmoreland...
GRANGE Hill>>>Roaring River...
9mile...Rasta Man BirthPlace
Marleys Collie...Burr...Lambs Bread...Rasta Skonk
Ya Mon!!!

 

[Tafari]

Nice post, the black bag and rizla give it away for sure. Thats a bag of herb jamaican style The GRANGE Hill, Lambs Bread should treat you nice. I hope you saved yourself some seeds. Give a small smoke report if you can.

Peace; Tafari

 

[Guest]

Irie Tafari, the smoke was very good in Jamaica...very EASY to obtain...expensive if you dont take the time to "Chat Fe It"...
the barter system works well too so Takum trade...weight is a NON issue ...it cost what he wants lol...but if you gonna pay big get big .Ya Mon!
The Lambs Bread was HAZE...now i dunno if it was marleys lambsbread but it was great...golden sativas with golden honey drops the size of raindrops dried to the bud tips...wicked..soaring and powerful...Benjies Breakfast Mon!
Xtabi...Rasta Skonk...OH man it was narcotic...you dont smoke too much or you never leave the room ...no shit.
my driver was my guide and confidant...
he just smile and say "In Jamaica...No Problem Mon..."

cheers

 

[Guest]

http://www.seedboutique.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=407

 

[Guest]

I have the Jamaican SugarBush.
The taste was not in line with my preference
but I used an extremely purple male to pollinate a Sweet Purple.
The results were very strange tasting weed with a Pickled Onion Aroma.

I also have the Orange Hill Magic that I have not tested yet.

When I get a gap & if there are enough requests I will move it forward.

Feelin Irie, Cool Runnings....

requesting

id go for some pure jamaicans, leave the sweet purple out of the equation and im good for 2 packs of the jamaican sugar bush, and a host of yer others i have yet to scoop

be well, lets see that Jamaican sometime soon, Afropips!!

 

[jaharvester]

Nice avatar Tafari.....looks familer heh heh heh...(im sure you know what i mean).

Anyway i have seed of both Blue Mountain Myst(a red sativa).
And Monkey Skunk(also called im told Orange hill Indica.

The first seeds were obtained in the Blue Mountains themselves,

The othe in Negril, actually....

Im me for connection info.....

Good Grow.

 

[Guest]

htc has one called jamaican jam. it is crossed with some afghani and looks really good imo...