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[Sinfuldreams]

It does Matter, a Great Deal

It does Matter, a Great Deal

When you are finished with your drama queen shanannigans, maybe you will realize that none of these events really matter to the end user. What matters is the bottom line...when you finally figure out that the bottom line is growing (as Gypy will tell you as well), maybe you too will realize that it doesnt really matter who is at the helm here (or anywhere) what matters is is the community is here for all to grow and learn from.

Peace

If your are referring to whom I think you are, your Wrong.
That scum dosen't know a thing about growing, and certainly can't be trusted with the keys to this website or any other!
If you want "Shark Tanks" and "Snake Pits" you already know the place to go.
Please stay there!
Sin

 

[exactlywatt]

The last person I would defend is POM but I will once again say that there are some very nice people at PG (as well as there are here of course). There are some other buttheads there too but I could say the same thing about this site or any other group or gathering of people. I'll say it again, we are all on the same side. This division among people with a common cause just makes it easier for those who want to stop us. Of course not everyone is going to like everyone else but likes and dislikes for each other doesn't mean we cannot work together. Everyone talks about how they miss overgrow but we will never overgrow anything if we keep bickering among ourselves. We should be adult enough to be able to learn from each other and work together and still show respect to each other no matter what our personal feelings might be.

well said sir.

 

[beancounter]

The last person I would defend is POM but I will once again say that there are some very nice people at PG (as well as there are here of course). There are some other buttheads there too but I could say the same thing about this site or any other group or gathering of people. I'll say it again, we are all on the same side. This division among people with a common cause just makes it easier for those who want to stop us. Of course not everyone is going to like everyone else but likes and dislikes for each other doesn't mean we cannot work together. Everyone talks about how they miss overgrow but we will never overgrow anything if we keep bickering among ourselves. We should be adult enough to be able to learn from each other and work together and still show respect to each other no matter what our personal feelings might be.

wise words Rudedude

All this 'site bigotry' or 'site racism' from both sides is sickening. People at PG contribute to it just as do people at IC, I've seen just as much of it from both sides.

Stop labeling people soley on the sites they happen to be members of. Try to remember that most PGers were members there way before POM showed up and starting spouting off. Just as many ICMag members were at IC long before the accusations of wrong-doings against GN/OP/DG surfaced, and no, I'm not jus talking about POM's accusations.

It's sad to see anyone, on any site, generalizing a whole site based on 1 member, or even a handful of members.

 

[moth]

Glad to Be back
Hello Old Friends

 

[I Used To Grow]

Good to be back! It's finally getting warm enough outside to put plants out and get some nice sunshine during the day.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

It's not about 'site bigotry' or site loyalty, There are quite a few cool folks at most of the canna sites I've visited. And one is not branded enemy because of what site they frequent. That you even imagine that to be the motivation of the anger expressed here, exposes your childish mindset. Real people have been unjustly hurt, The growing community has been hurt, and an event that ICmaggers looked forward to attending was ruined. Whether or not you think it justified, or have the abitily to understand the justification, I have every right to be angry with the ones who caused these results, as well as the ones who through gullibility and poor judgment fully supported them. It only makes good sense Not to be Quick to befriend the ones who have befriended everyones enemy. So to everyone who would deny the ICmag family the right to express their anger... Get Bent, and then go Away please.

 

[baccas125]

Well said Head!!!!!

 

[Farmer John]

Damn well said bro H3ad...but the bastard couldnt ruin the fun eh? It was FANTASTIC.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

It was fantastic, meeting you guys... it Felt alot like a family reunion...

 

[CalcioErba2004]

Yes it did H3ad. It was hella fun. Im thinking about going back in Sept. There or Spain...we'll see. :smile:


FJ i read that High Times interview with DNA and they said they has some nice "Haze crosses".

They are still selling the C99 i mean Cannalope Haze.

 

[Farmer John]

No shit Calcio? Thats harsh, really harsh...haze crosses, hmph. I have nice ones too.

 

[beancounter]

It's not about 'site bigotry' or site loyalty, There are quite a few cool folks at most of the canna sites I've visited. And one is not branded enemy because of what site they frequent.

I couldn't agree more with you, and that's exactly what I was trying to say.

That you even imagine that to be the motivation of the anger expressed here, exposes your childish mindset.

I don't imagine it, I see and read it with my own eyes. I'm not talking about the people here (or at PG, and other sites) bashing POM, or the people at PG (or b.r.e.e.d.bay, & other sites) bashing GN. I'm talking about the members at all sites who lump every member from each site together with the bad actions of one, or a few.

Real people have been unjustly hurt, The growing community has been hurt, and an event that ICmaggers looked forward to attending was ruined.

I'm not defending POM, but real people, the growing community, and the ICMagger's event were all hurt well before POM showed his head. People were tearing down and the 420 cup was cancelled as a result of OG going down, before any of the GN vs POM stuff started.

In no way does that lessen the damage that POM did after the fact, and he did alot, and he deserves all the critism and anger he gets directed to him.

Whether or not you think it justified, or have the abitily to understand the justification, I have every right to be angry with the ones who caused these results, as well as the ones who through gullibility and poor judgment fully supported them.

If you read the entire post that you are replying to you will see that I'm not questioning anyone's right to be angry at the people who are at fault... I'm just questioning the right of those to stereotype a whole site soley because that is the place that POM ended up at.

I am there right along with you being angry at POM and the people that caused us all harm. I just wanna make sure I'm taking it out on the right people, as misdirected anger just causes more harm to our community.

It only makes good sense Not to be Quick to befriend the ones who have befriended everyones enemy.

I only saw a handful of PGers who befriended POM, from what I saw, many were questioning him jus as you would. From what I saw the majority of the members would have preffered he never even shown up, and stayed down his hole.

So to everyone who would deny the ICmag family the right to express their anger... Get Bent, and then go Away please.

I wasn't trying to deny ICmagger's (or PGer's) the right to express their anger, I think everyone has a right to be angry. I was just trying to remind folks that we should try to remember there are good people at all sites, and not label all of one site's members based on the actions of one or a handful of handles.

POM is not on staff at PG, and many of the staff members have called for his banning, but to do that PG would have to throw out everything the site was built on.

I just hope all the anger gets directed to where it belongs, to the individuals that caused these problems and not the bystanders.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

I couldn't agree more with you, and that's exactly what I was trying to say.




I don't imagine it, I see and read it with my own eyes. I'm not talking about the people here (or at PG, and other sites) bashing POM, or the people at PG (or b.r.e.e.d.bay, & other sites) bashing GN. I'm talking about the members at all sites who lump every member from each site together with the bad actions of one, or a few.

Who here at ICmag has said that every member at PG is the same?

I'm not defending POM, but real people, the growing community, and the ICMagger's event were all hurt well before POM showed his head. People were tearing down and the 420 cup was cancelled as a result of OG going down, before any of the GN vs POM stuff started.

In no way does that lessen the damage that POM did after the fact, and he did alot, and he deserves all the critism and anger he gets directed to him.

As you're not privy to as much of the information as some of us are, Your being misinformed is understandable.

If you read the entire post that you are replying to you will see that I'm not questioning anyone's right to be angry at the people who are at fault... I'm just questioning the right of those to stereotype a whole site soley because that is the place that POM ended up at.

I am there right along with you being angry at POM and the people that caused us all harm. I just wanna make sure I'm taking it out on the right people, as misdirected anger just causes more harm to our community.



I only saw a handful of PGers who befriended POM, from what I saw, many were questioning him jus as you would. From what I saw the majority of the members would have preffered he never even shown up, and stayed down his hole.

I don't think that the site is judged solely on one member. I have read Very offensive Racist and Sexist remarks on the site. The Site is overrun by attention whores, trolls, and shit stirrers. Free Speech is one thing, but there is some speech that is indefensible, and I wouldn't be part of a site that allows such things. I could go on on this topic, in fact it could be its own discussion, but the reasons why people shy away from certian sites is much broader than the membership of one individual.

I wasn't trying to deny ICmagger's (or PGer's) the right to express their anger, I think everyone has a right to be angry. I was just trying to remind folks that we should try to remember there are good people at all sites, and not label all of one site's members based on the actions of one or a handful of handles.

POM is not on staff at PG, and many of the staff members have called for his banning, but to do that PG would have to throw out everything the site was built on.

I just hope all the anger gets directed to where it belongs, to the individuals that caused these problems and not the bystanders.

But the Staff at PG has in effect endorsed all of these shenanigans, by ignoring their own TOU. This argument could also be a thread of its own, and is at PG, if I am not mistaken...

Now... Can't we Get AWAY from all of these inter-site POLITICS, and Smoke some of this?

 

[Alex-F]

Yes it did H3ad. It was hella fun. Im thinking about going back in Sept. There or Spain...we'll see. :smile:


FJ i read that High Times interview with DNA and they said they has some nice "Haze crosses".

They are still selling the C99 i mean Cannalope Haze.

Same interview was in Germanys "Hanfblat", they even metioned the argument here at IC and how they got flamed by some members


I'm sure I can remember one of them lads eventually admitting to there being some Skunk in the CH and not a Haze

 

[Farmer John]

Haha flamed silly hippies I flame every FRAUD as good as I can, we dont need these pirates around.

 

[gaiusmarius]

@ beancounter

I don't imagine it, I see and read it with my own eyes. I'm not talking about the people here (or at PG, and other sites) bashing POM, or the people at PG (or b.r.e.e.d.bay, & other sites) bashing GN. I'm talking about the members at all sites who lump every member from each site together with the bad actions of one, or a few.

ahhhhh get out of here, what a load of bullocks; pom had a huge following. if you'd read any of his filthy threads full of people sucking and licking it up. anyone who had a bad word to say about pom, was verbally attacked and told to fuck off. only now and since his bullshit is starting to be seen as such, are people slowly turning away from him.

'm not defending POM, but real people, the growing community, and the ICMagger's event were all hurt well before POM showed his head. People were tearing down and the 420 cup was cancelled as a result of OG going down, before any of the GN vs POM stuff started.

NO! you are WRONG! at that point, no body on ic had any fears due to og going down, only sadness.

the 420 was cancelled well after OG went down. in fact it was cancelled after POM started attacking GN, not before. you are obviously not in possession of all the facts of this mater. it was only after POM's threatening of GN that the cup got canceled for security reasons

 

[kov]

True words, Gaius.


rgds, kov

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

....yeah gaiusmarius is absolutely right.....


.......The Official 4/20 Growers and Breeders Cup was cancelled this year due to on-going threats to myself and the other organizers ......we did not want this to reflect upon anyone attending........there was still a 'gathering'.......and it was good....

 

[bushmaster]

Yes there was, very enjoyable it was.

 

[mitsu1]

Hey Gypsy...I know its along way till April and things are still pending. But how does next year look as far as the Growers Cup goes? Will we have one?
I sure wish I did'nt cancel my trip this April. You guys sound like you had a great time....Sampling each others product ,hanging out with cool people from IC....SWEEEET!! Cup or no Cup I'll be there next year. But I'm prayin' everything is cool with GN and we have the Growers Cup...peace