We Can Bring Down The Price Of Marijuana...TOGETHER!

[newbgrow]

I like your idealism Sardonic. Unfortunately, we live in a capitalistic society where the burden, in this case, lies on the growers who risk their fortune and freedom growing this plant. Running a commercial operation costs money in the form of setup, electricity, security, etc. Growers who don't grow for bud are already taking a huge hit on potential profits.

The only way to accomplish your goals IMO, is to look at things realistically. We take the economic principle of supply and demand; if supply exceeds demand, price goes down. And that can only happen, when everyone becomes more interested in growing these stronger varieties, instead of the weaker larger-yielding ones. Once every average Joe dealer has OG Kush in his grow, competition would drive the prices down.

Until then, the only thing you can do is practice what you preach, and do massive commercial grows for seed and sell it $40 a pack for whoever wants them. Then, when more people become inspired by you, the tide might change.

 

[Haps]

I work seven days a week, I am a farmer, a money tree farmer. Every siren, loud noise, or dog barking could be leo, seven days a week, all year long. I invest my own capital [money I earned working for the hive] to have the gear to grow my money trees. I invested in genetics, then time and loss of yield in seed projects, to create my own medicines. Years of labor learning my song. Electric, gas, and property bills every month. Nutes, pumps, fans, medium, net pots, replacement lights, bulbs, carbon, no pest strips, and meters.

All of my clients are offered seed free on any of my herbs that serve them, and it is a blessing to me when they take me up on my offer.

And the folks at the old folks home are delighted to pay over 5K per elbow. That is with the AARP discount. If it were legal, I would auction my colas as the fine natural art they are, and earn at least 10K per, as that is what they are worth.

Feel free to offer the fruits of your OWN labor at bargain prices, bless your project. We all want to be fair, share, and grow long hair, but first, ya gotta eat.
H

 

[WoW maannnn]

that will work when *i* can grow till then i am vitim to a "black" market...and no connections to a source to do it other than chucking beans out the window when i dive on the hi way.

 

[NOKUY]

Nice idea, but I'd prefer not to take a "pay-cut"

 

[iseankimi]

that would be great, but how are we going to pay rent, electric bills and live. If we could eat air and pay rent in farts it would work.

I meant taking money out of the marijuana scene, not everything else. Haha, if we were able to grow our own bud legally, we could spend the money we normally spend on herb elsewhere. You'd still have a normal job, pay normal bills, but you wouldn't have to worry about paying for herb.

 

[NOKUY]

I meant taking money out of the marijuana scene, not everything else. Haha, if we were able to grow our own bud legally, we could spend the money we normally spend on herb elsewhere. You'd still have a normal job, pay normal bills, but you wouldn't have to worry about paying for herb.

bro that makes 2 posts that went over your head....the one you quoted, and mine just above yours.

...we dont wanna take a "PAY CUT"....read between the lines bro

(some of us don't spend money on weed)...get it

 

[Guest]

newbgrower and HAPS were surprisingly the first people to really break the idealistic cycle of this trhead and address that one of the huge factors of growing MJ is the security/risk factor.
If you want cheaper cannabis products, then grow it yourself. If you don't have the resources to grow it including cash, time, location, security,genetics access, balls (or gumption for the famale grows out there) then you CAN"T complain about the cost.
Sure, it sucks to pay so much, but if you don't like it, grow your own.

Until its legal (and possibly even after), costs will be high.

I also wish prices were lower for people, and free for med users. I have a way of changing that though...........grow and give away or just cover basic expenses.

going through clubs will never be the cheapest way to obtain meds. people who are in it, are most likely in it for the profit, as are (arguably) most other small businesses.

If i was in the business, and it was my way of providing for myself and my family, id sure as hell sell at a profit too.

its just how it goes. You can always be idealistic, and its fun to talk about i guess, but living in reality is often much healthier.

just my .02

 

[NiteTiger]

bro that makes 2 posts that went over your head....the one you quoted, and mine just above yours.

...we dont wanna take a "PAY CUT"....read between the lines bro

(some of us don't spend money on weed)...get it

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to NOKUY again.

Whole purpose of being here is so you don't have to buy.

 

[Sardonic]

shrug..i expected a lot of negative responses, and lists of reasons why we can't do it.

if people thought they could make a difference, I wouldn't have had to make this thread -- the subject of it wouldn't be an issue.

I won't bother explaining any further. I do not speak to those who don't want to listen.

I'll keep on my mission..
peace

 

[NOKUY]

shrug..i expected a lot of negative responses, and lists of reasons why we can't do it.

if people thought they could make a difference, I wouldn't have had to make this thread -- the subject of it wouldn't be an issue.

I won't bother explaining any further. I do not speak to those who don't want to listen.

I'll keep on my mission..
peace

you dont have to explain any further...we get it...you want cheap good weed

who didnt listen?

ICMAG isnt about getting the price of "street weed" to a lower price!

were about bein at the VERY least "self sufficient"......if not beyond that

....and many about helping med. patients.


I dont think that most peeps here give a fuk what you pay for weed.

you havent figured that out here yet

learn to grow...there are a zillion ways

 

[BadKarma]

Prices have not crossed my mind in 3 years. I grow my own. My cost for any strain you come up with will avg about $15 an OZ. You cant get much cheaper than that. I'm also a good but not great grower and could bring those down some if I tried.( It took 3 years to get my cost to $15.

IMO you have the right Idea but to be honest if you want to see med prices come down YOU have to bring them down yourself.

For a mere 75 grand ( just a guess) you could start your own club. Please put some back for attorneys as you will need them.

I cant use all I grow and gift to med patients and friends. I share many seeds and advice at my expense becase I enjoy helping people with grows.

 

[NOKUY]

"bad karma"...my weed runs me (9 bucks an oz) after all electric and soil, and nutes, , and all the monetary cost like that...you can look back at my past posts where I figured it all out... (doesnt count security or stress costs tho.)


9 bucks an OZ tho...lol.....the guys payin for weed are gettin their ass handed to them.

 

[BadKarma]

15 is a rough guess and Ive seen your grows and im not there yet but im learning every grow.

the guys payin for weed are gettin their ass handed to them. No Shit

Ill go dry before Ill buy

I am sorry that everyone cant grow thier own. And my meds are for sleep not pain or MS etc. etc. So I only have a faint idea of their problems to be honest.

I do take care of a MS patient and close friend his meds cost him $0

 

[Haps]

Sardonic, I do not disagree with your goals, just wished to interject a little reality into the numbers. In the right circumstance it is possible to do what you want, and it is good to have such ideals, most of us old hippies do. I sold my fine outdoor sensemillia quite cheaply back in another century and life.

Focus your plan on a goal that can be achieved locally or by a small group, perfect and tune it, by proving it yourself, into a working plan that others can follow, and you will have made progress. If we focus on what we can do, things can get done.
H

 

[Sardonic]

Sardonic, I do not disagree with your goals, just wished to interject a little reality into the numbers. In the right circumstance it is possible to do what you want, and it is good to have such ideals, most of us old hippies do. I sold my fine outdoor sensemillia quite cheaply back in another century and life.

Focus your plan on a goal that can be achieved locally or by a small group, perfect and tune it, by proving it yourself, into a working plan that others can follow, and you will have made progress. If we focus on what we can do, things can get done.
H

Good advice, Haps.

What you just suggested is what I'm doing. I posted this knowing i'd reach a small group of people, and I did.

I know that actions speak louder than words, and people will start to join the team..and those who don't will still benefit from our efforts


peace

 

[thcbound]

It is sad that we live in the richest nation(s) on earth and yet people who suffer great pain have to resort to an illegal "drug" like Cannabis and her black market prices.


It's easier than ever before for the young, yet the meak are left to fend for themselves if they don't have a bank account...

 

[Depths Of OG]

I have to say that I disagree with the original poster. Obviously if you have to buy your meds, you don't grow. You have no idea the time, effort, and stress it takes to grow good plants. Buying all the equipment, setting up the grow room, catering your life around your grow. I have to plan ahead when friends/family comes to visit. I have nightmares about being caught, I spend hours upon hours tying down plants, mixing nutes, playing with lighting schedule. I make sure I'm home at a certain time to turn the lights on and off (I don't use timers). There is so much that goes into a successful grow, and getting top-dollar for my product is more than fair.

Stop bitching and grow your own. If you can't grow, or you can't afford the prices, SMOKE LESS!!!

 

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

my sig says it all!!!

 

[Guest]

So you want the cost of the product to come down while quality go up... Humm. thats a tough one. Have you ever put thought into what it takes to bring a successful harvest? the cost of Nutrients, Fans, Lights, Medium, filters, tools, gloves, fiber suits, cleaning product, Rent, Electricity, The cost of "running the guise of who u are", Seed cost, and not to forget a humans time to maintain such a task? And thats just off the top of my stoned head. Also to mention, All forms of power are going up 25% effective now. Also Home invasions and LEO invasions are on a scary rise. Hell you cant even grow Hemp in a Medical legal state (California)! Med Co-ops are raided all the time in California (shame). Plus rumor has it That the US has rented out Canada's Radarsat2 for peeping on outdoor crops (cannas plant temperature). And again on the rumormill is a new sensor that can detect "fresh", "harvested", or "ignited" cannabis, That can and will be mounted on aircraft, and mobile cars. All that might just be rumors, but its "out in the media" that the farmer is reading, so added a mental stress. So all that and more for a potential grower to bring a crop to harvest. So I dont see how it can get any cheaper..
And if my wisdom tells me anything, it is that the cost is only going to go up, and its customer base will thin, if the current trend applies to the future. The cost of combating the new devices that are use to detect cannabis. And more than likely the fines and sentences are prolly going to go up as well. Everyone who burns this herb would like it to be legal so all could reap its value.
I do agree that the Medical Co-ops need to bring the cost of the product down, but without a sound model in that industry its hard to succeed. The Law keeps people away, by arresting co-op owners (imho). but thats another topic (sorry i'm stoned). Also, i know that some Co-ops donate to MJ legal fight. I know growers, farmers that also donate to try to get it legalized.
So I might log onto Advanced Nutrients or Dutch Masters nutrients and biotch them out for having a bottle of shit(poop) that cost me 150.00 bucks! Or paying 20.00 bucks for a 20oz bottle of fermented leaves..!.. shit pisses me off too, but not much i can do about it.. Sux i know..
I would smoke you out if you where here. I smoke all my friends and family out when i can. And they smoke me out all the time (medical ones.
I would suggest to maybe grow your own and reduce the amount i smoke.?. I know when i couldnt afford to smoke, or got sick of the press brick mex; I would drive some seeds up to the mountains and put them babies in the ground with some soil and visit them a couple times a week. That worked for two years, until i got settled.
Wow! i rambled, sorry.. /high be well,

Kannamaven,

 

[zymos]

In medical, if you want the cost down in the medical market, you need to work on getting it reclassified under federal law, so insurance companies can pay for it, and it can be grown without fear of losing your life.

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Getting insurance companies involved with ANYTHING is never a good idea.


Free the weed!!