I was curious on everyones opinion on waterboarding... I believe it is torture but necessary in some situations. For example the terrorists that were waterboarded gave up valuable information that prevented american deaths. This is after interogation techniques would not work. I believe waterboarding should be a last resort and only used in cases where lives are at stake or something similar. What do you guys think?
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Waterboarding?
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bergerbuddy just started a thread titled "Which MOD binned my Iraq war thread?"....... that thread has been closed also with this being the reason.
Without a doubt this ones destined for the bin as well.SmokeyPufmaster said:
begeesterdechol
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Before it's headed to the bin...
**** waterboarding as a torture technique, if some GI Joe wants it because he's got to train it's up to him but actually making people drown (cause that's what they are doing) is plain wrong and authoritarian. I don't care how many bombs somebody dropped...
Not to speak of how truthful the info given by the tortured is, if somebody was almost killing me I would say anything.
It's just another prime example of the US gov. arrogance.
**** waterboarding as a torture technique, if some GI Joe wants it because he's got to train it's up to him but actually making people drown (cause that's what they are doing) is plain wrong and authoritarian. I don't care how many bombs somebody dropped...
Not to speak of how truthful the info given by the tortured is, if somebody was almost killing me I would say anything.
It's just another prime example of the US gov. arrogance.
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There's a new sheriff in town and the new sheriff and the mayor have decided no more fun threads. People can't stop clicking into them and they decided to protect us all before we become click happy. Terrible thing callouses on your finger tips. How can you get a good nose pick if your finger is calloused.
Anybody who thinks that waterboarding is torture doesn't know what real torture consists of.
Is everybody aware that even some US troops undergo actual waterboarding as part of their training ? Yet, all of these pussies and unpatriotic, enemy loving people get all upset when it might be used on a captured terrorist, how ironic. And I'm not referring to anybody specifically in this thread, just to the far-left lunatics who whine about such things, like those disgustingly ugly code pink biatches.
Where were these people protesting it, when it was used on US troops ? That's right folks, they only come out of the woodwork when it's some poor, mass murdering terrorists that it's used against. Remember though, these people supposedly 'support' the troops, yeah right, lol.
Captured enemies should be extremely happy that we don't slowly sever their penises off, wrap their pathetic wieners inside hotdog buns and feed it to them for lunch. After that we'll find the bluntest blade available and chop their heads off, extremely slowly, all while laughing it up and having a jolly good old time. Every 10 seconds we'll pour some salt into the slit marks and their open wounds for added entertainment value. Then we'll make them drink gasoline and proceed to burn their bodies and hang them from some bridges while we dance around like primitive savage beasts.
Waterboarding, lol.
Is everybody aware that even some US troops undergo actual waterboarding as part of their training ? Yet, all of these pussies and unpatriotic, enemy loving people get all upset when it might be used on a captured terrorist, how ironic. And I'm not referring to anybody specifically in this thread, just to the far-left lunatics who whine about such things, like those disgustingly ugly code pink biatches.
Where were these people protesting it, when it was used on US troops ? That's right folks, they only come out of the woodwork when it's some poor, mass murdering terrorists that it's used against. Remember though, these people supposedly 'support' the troops, yeah right, lol.
Captured enemies should be extremely happy that we don't slowly sever their penises off, wrap their pathetic wieners inside hotdog buns and feed it to them for lunch. After that we'll find the bluntest blade available and chop their heads off, extremely slowly, all while laughing it up and having a jolly good old time. Every 10 seconds we'll pour some salt into the slit marks and their open wounds for added entertainment value. Then we'll make them drink gasoline and proceed to burn their bodies and hang them from some bridges while we dance around like primitive savage beasts.
Waterboarding, lol.
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Chamba
"waterboarding, lol"
yes exactly..it's hilarious isn't it!
there was a recent thread about this torture technique....not sure if it was binned?....if not it should be linked to this repeat
torture is sick, primitive and useless....it mainly benefits the sick phuckers who actually do the torturing..the one country that should not be involved with torture is the one that calls itself the "land of the free"..now they are using spin to justify it.
isn't it funny..remember how Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield were making up lies for their case for the Iraq Invasion ..ooops sorry, "Iraqi Freedom"...along with the non-existant WMD, the Al Queda connection etc etc and they also kept on repeating with emphasis " and Saddam tortures his own people...." lol
anyway let's call it what it is : drowning
all the other "approved" methods of torture are not used for extracting information..that's just nonsense fed to the FOX news watchers...everyone, apart from the sheeple who believe the lies and spin that comes from the current US administration (a diminishing number I might add) know it's either morally wrong and or useless in any practical sense....when any real terrorist is caught, the other crazed mongrels in his gang who are still free change their hideouts, plans, codes immediately..Donald Duck knows that... torture is primarilly used as punishment and as a deterrant to those who might be inclined to join a gang of those cowardly killers.....&/or it is used to help promote the continuation of hate to help prolong the occupation for whatever reptilian reason those in control have.
Iraqi Freedom..now that's hilarious......a dozen or so Saudi maniacs killed 3000 US civilians.....the knee jerk reaction was to invade Iraq (the one place in the Middle East where there no terrorists!...the thug Saddam killed or jailed them all!) ..any sensible argument was drowned out with the cry " Support out troops" (huh?.....idiots!)...a few years later..and I dunno how many trillions of US taxpayers dollars later ....another 3000 or 4000 US soldiers have lost their lives for what?, (and let's not forget the 100000+ Iraqi civilians dead)..what has been acheived?..... you work it out...follow the money..and there's your answer.
I tell what's really hilarious...the gung-ho pro-torturers in this thread will have their taxes increased by double over the next 30 years to pay for all this wrong called "Iraqi Freedom"....I call hear them now "those damn Democrats are increasing our taxes again and wasting it"
yes exactly..it's hilarious isn't it!
there was a recent thread about this torture technique....not sure if it was binned?....if not it should be linked to this repeat
torture is sick, primitive and useless....it mainly benefits the sick phuckers who actually do the torturing..the one country that should not be involved with torture is the one that calls itself the "land of the free"..now they are using spin to justify it.
isn't it funny..remember how Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield were making up lies for their case for the Iraq Invasion ..ooops sorry, "Iraqi Freedom"...along with the non-existant WMD, the Al Queda connection etc etc and they also kept on repeating with emphasis " and Saddam tortures his own people...." lol
anyway let's call it what it is : drowning
all the other "approved" methods of torture are not used for extracting information..that's just nonsense fed to the FOX news watchers...everyone, apart from the sheeple who believe the lies and spin that comes from the current US administration (a diminishing number I might add) know it's either morally wrong and or useless in any practical sense....when any real terrorist is caught, the other crazed mongrels in his gang who are still free change their hideouts, plans, codes immediately..Donald Duck knows that... torture is primarilly used as punishment and as a deterrant to those who might be inclined to join a gang of those cowardly killers.....&/or it is used to help promote the continuation of hate to help prolong the occupation for whatever reptilian reason those in control have.
Iraqi Freedom..now that's hilarious......a dozen or so Saudi maniacs killed 3000 US civilians.....the knee jerk reaction was to invade Iraq (the one place in the Middle East where there no terrorists!...the thug Saddam killed or jailed them all!) ..any sensible argument was drowned out with the cry " Support out troops" (huh?.....idiots!)...a few years later..and I dunno how many trillions of US taxpayers dollars later ....another 3000 or 4000 US soldiers have lost their lives for what?, (and let's not forget the 100000+ Iraqi civilians dead)..what has been acheived?..... you work it out...follow the money..and there's your answer.
I tell what's really hilarious...the gung-ho pro-torturers in this thread will have their taxes increased by double over the next 30 years to pay for all this wrong called "Iraqi Freedom"....I call hear them now "those damn Democrats are increasing our taxes again and wasting it"
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Waterboarding is torture.
Torture does not work.
Name one instance where torture has led to a true confession that has saved lives?
Torture/violence breeds more torture/violence.
Go USA. Leading by example again hmm?
Torture does not work.
Name one instance where torture has led to a true confession that has saved lives?
Torture/violence breeds more torture/violence.
Go USA. Leading by example again hmm?
zeloszero said:
Wrong, you can't just pull figures out of thin air, such as 9 out of 10 times it doesn't work.
Much of the information coming from the captured scumbags can be verified using various sources and cross checked against info from other captured scumbags, and if wrong, then the captured scumbags will be even sorrier than before, if it is confirmed that they have lied, lol. Lying is not going to help anybody. People being put on heavy interrogation will have a pretty difficult time keeping their lies straight, after being subjected to repeated questioning, using various techniques.
Tirs
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greenhead said:Wrong, you can't just pull figures out of thin air, such as 9 out of 10 times it doesn't work.
Much of the information coming from the captured scumbags can be verified using various sources and cross checked against info from other captured scumbags, and if wrong, then the captured scumbags will be even sorrier than before, if it is confirmed that they have lied, lol. Lying is not going to help anybody. People being put on heavy interrogation will have a pretty difficult time keeping their lies straight, after being subjected to repeated questioning, using various techniques.
I agree with this though not so much your first post. I don't condone torture but at the same time I don't condemn my country for using it. I am a realist, what do people think war is?
SilverSurfer_OG said:
Obviously, most of the info about current waterboarding of scumbags is secret and remains so.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Several accounts reported that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded while being interrogated by the CIA. According to the Bush administration, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed divulged information of tremendous value during his detention. He is said to have helped point the way to the capture of Hambali, the Indonesian terrorist responsible for the 2002 bombings of night clubs in Bali. According to the Bush administration, he also provided information on an Al Qaeda leader in England.[40]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
trouble said:
Exactly ! Those scumbags get better healthcare than the average US citizen and they eat better meals than most. If anything, I think that we should offer even more 'recreational' activities to keep them occupied while they are on their Cuban vacation.
And also, I'm going to call out anybody who is cowardly enough to give me a neg rep for stating my honest opinion in this thread, while they are not even man enough to reply to this thread.
Tuco - Do you have anything worthwhile to add to the thread ? Why are you against saving US lives ? Why do you stick up for the enemy ? Why do you like terrorists ? Are you related to Osama bin Laden ?
Tuco - Do you have anything worthwhile to add to the thread ? Why are you against saving US lives ? Why do you stick up for the enemy ? Why do you like terrorists ? Are you related to Osama bin Laden ?
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Space Ghost
testicular electrocution is much more effective...
