goingrey
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So recently I came across a reposting of this old post:
And according to this guy, everyone lost most parent plants and it is a historical fact.
The Cannabis Castle being such an iconic place you'd think a raid there would make the news or at the very least High Times. But I can't seem to find any such information.
I did find this 2017 interview of Alan Dronkers where he says:
Ok sure he's biased. But does anyone have anything, a newspaper article or whatever, to actually disprove what he is saying? Or is it not such a "historical fact" after all?
@Mustafunk wrote:
"Actually it was the same with ALL dutch seed banks, because around 2000 the dutch laws changed and banned outdoor big scale growing. There were police raids everywhere and everyone lost most parent plants. This is not a rumour, its an historical fact. Similar thing happend later in Switzerland around 2003. When people start getting greedy and draw too much attention, sometimes shit happens.
Anyway this forced companies to move into closet-breeding and outsourcing seed production (from Spain for example), as opposed to the huge scale outdoor breeding operations that were dominating the dutch scene in the 80s and early 90s. That's the reason why the pre-2000 thing appeared among growers, as probably that issue changed the strains for ever. Also that's why Mr Nice moved their operations to Switzerland until Shanti was raided.
On the other hand, I doubt Ben Dronkers ever had the best parent plants from Nevil as A5 Haze, C5 Haze, Haze BC, G13Haze, NL#5, Haze C, Haze A and so on... at least Nevil himself said a few times that when he sold the Castle, there were only leftovers there. But I guess we won't ever know the truth or which parents are companies using. What's obvious is that plants have changed.
Same with Mr Nice though... after Shanti's raid, for years their seeds were produced in Spain by a grow-shop pioneer called Karulo, who used to host Shantibaba and his family during his trips to Spain. He was even telling his friends how he produced them, pollinating all the females with the same male. Wonder about many grower's dissapointments after growing modern stocks from Sensi and Mr Nice...
For those looking for the legendary dutch genetics from the 90s, buying modern seeds from classic seedbanks will be a waste of time and money in my opinion. Better try to find a nice old clone or underground breeders working with those. You don't really know what to expect with big seed companies nowadays, they will tell you what you want to hear in order to sell seeds."
And according to this guy, everyone lost most parent plants and it is a historical fact.
The Cannabis Castle being such an iconic place you'd think a raid there would make the news or at the very least High Times. But I can't seem to find any such information.
I did find this 2017 interview of Alan Dronkers where he says:
andAlan Dronkers said:The genetics [seed] bank and the maintaining of the genetic collection is still there and is now handled by HempFlax, not far from the castle. Since my departure in 2007, [Sensi Seeds] is still located in the castle, but nobody lives there anymore.
Alan Dronkers said:The law changed in 1998, making cultivation and breeding difficult. Fortunately, a permit has ensured that in any case the genetic collection could be maintained.
The Story Of The Legendary Dutch Cannabis Castle
Once owned by Nevil Schoenmakers, the Cannabis Castle later passed to the Dronkers of Sensi Seeds. We revisit its ’90s heyday with Alan Dronkers.
bigbudsmag.com
Ok sure he's biased. But does anyone have anything, a newspaper article or whatever, to actually disprove what he is saying? Or is it not such a "historical fact" after all?