Vietnamese friend always same weed???

[lc00p4]

lemme guess, i bet the slur starts with a g... i don't find it very racist because it is derived from the term "googly eyed" and carried over from the korean war. it sounds a lot worse than it really is. the last pic definitely looks like beasters... vietnamese people need to get over beasters and start focusing on the "kush" craze. around here in the midwest, that shit goes for 3200-4000.

 

[Jon]

Ok...what's beast? Is it a strain or slang for disease or sumpin? Help a brotha out.

 

[Jon]

He says they even get the little children to tend the gardens. To us that sounds terrible, but you have to understand they are from a completely different culture.

How bad is that really? I'm wondering if I'm a bad parent. I grow outdoors during the summer (California Prop 215) and my 1 year old likes to go out there with me. He watches what I do, he smells the buds, and even tries to water it. My daughter has also seen me manicure at the kitchen table. Am I a bad person in other people's eyes? As far as I'm concerned (and I do come from an asian background), it's my herbal medicine and I even explain to my daughter that it is my medicine for many different symptoms. Is this wrong? Should I start another thread? This just got me thinking.

 

[chubbynugs]

we always called it beast or bc for the part of canada we thought it was coming from. So beast is slang for bc.Jon it is not wrong in my eyes as long as you raise your kids knowing it is your medicine and not some drug to use to party.

 

[Pirate138]

I really should not call him a friend, rather an aquantence. I
TGT

your letting acquaintence's know you grow pot? talk about a security breach. that guy sounds like a terrible dealer/grower, i would cut ties.

 

[eLiguL]

How bad is that really? I'm wondering if I'm a bad parent. I grow outdoors during the summer (California Prop 215) and my 1 year old likes to go out there with me. He watches what I do, he smells the buds, and even tries to water it. My daughter has also seen me manicure at the kitchen table. Am I a bad person in other people's eyes? As far as I'm concerned (and I do come from an asian background), it's my herbal medicine and I even explain to my daughter that it is my medicine for many different symptoms. Is this wrong? Should I start another thread? This just got me thinking.

IMO I dont think there is anything wrong with what your doing if you are legally allowed to grow. Your not putting your children in danger and your spending time with them.

 

[Bigtimer7]

Its so weird that I get that exact SAME weed way down south from you! It amazing how the stuff can travel all over the world. Its also from an asian who sells LARGE quanity. Crazy how the illegal trade works....

 

[TGT]

Chubbynugs:
"That be the beasteronis thar! Just curious what does that crap run for up there? I remember like five years ago i used to move ten packs every few days and they used to run me around 2600 per pound. Used to sell em for 3200 all day long but stopped sellin it cause people stopped buying it.

Cool, at least now I know what people mean when they say 'Beasters'. This stuff when it first became available in my area around the year 2000 was much better quality, although very similar to what it is today - may be a little dryer. It seemed back then there were more versions available then there are now. It went for $2400.00 a pound back then. That was a little cheaper than good hydro at the time, but the hydro was usually a little damp and the Beasters had the dryness factor going for it. People bought it up like crazy and eventually the market was flooded. The dealers lucky enough to know a vietnamese supplier got rich really fast as it was bought so cheap in bulk and sold for such a high profit margin. In the beginning you had to know someone to get it, not like today where it is everywhere. The money train didn't last too long, may be two years max for the early dealers, then it was everywhere. So much so that prices for all types of weed decreased to keep up with the competition, but still it kept selling like crazy. After about 5 years of this stuff flooding the market it could be had for $2000.00 a pound and primo was still going for $2500.00 a pound. Today it is to the point where the market is moving back toward the primo and no one really wants to touch the Beasters anymore - they are sick of it. A pound of Beasters now goes for as little as $1600.00 a pound, but usually to the average person still fetches $1900.00. Prices of primo started an upward trend also. Just a year or two ago I could only get $2300.00 max for killer. Now I am able to get $2500.00. As I see it the day of the Beasters is over. It was a very interesting trend to follow. I was in it from the beginning until now and that is why I ramble on about it so much. Sorry, I guess it just interests me.

Jon:
"How bad is that really? I'm wondering if I'm a bad parent. I grow outdoors during the summer (California Prop 215) and my 1 year old likes to go out there with me. He watches what I do, he smells the buds, and even tries to water it. My daughter has also seen me manicure at the kitchen table. Am I a bad person in other people's eyes? As far as I'm concerned (and I do come from an asian background), it's my herbal medicine and I even explain to my daughter that it is my medicine for many different symptoms. Is this wrong? Should I start another thread? This just got me thinking.

I don't think there is anything wrong with it as long as the grow is 100% safe and it is locked up tight when you are not around. The reason I said it was not a good thing was because some of these vietnamese grows are not safe at all. Actually from everything I have seen in the past they must be the biggest fire risk since smoking in bed. They sometimes use very old equipment, ballasts without covers, wires to small a gauge, spagetti all over the grow and water all over the floor. Believe me, I have seen it more than a few times, and they have their kids running around barefoot watering their plants! I too let my little one help out in the grow, but I know for a fact that my grow is as safe as can be. Even the police that busted the Toronto highrises showed pictures of huge fire hazards. I think growing in a highrise and using equipment sub-par to be extremely selfish and wrong. It could quite possible kill a whole family just to make a buck. Sorry again to ramble, but I think it is all growers responsibility to make their grow as safe as possible. Not only does it make it much safer for unsuspecting folk, it also gives us a better name. This is one major reason they are so hard on growers. Sorry again to ramble, must be the phase of the moon or something.

Pirate138:
"your letting acquaintence's know you grow pot? talk about a security breach. that guy sounds like a terrible dealer/grower, i would cut ties.

No he doesn't know I grow, I know he grows. He thinks I just buy the odd pound now and again. I keep my grow secret to everyone but my family. No friends, even if I know them since childhood. And yes you are correct when you say I should cut all ties, but believe it or not this guy isn't really a bad dude. But the people he comunicates on a regular basis are as bad as they come.

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[TGT]

Its so weird that I get that exact SAME weed way down south from you! It amazing how the stuff can travel all over the world. Its also from an asian who sells LARGE quanity. Crazy how the illegal trade works....

I would love to see a pic if you could get one. It would be interesting to see if it is EXACTLY the same. If you can post it up. My area is the Toronto area, or close to it. If people can post their pics we can may be see where the majoroty of this stuff is going.

TGT

 

[D0nC0smic]

Beasters is definately the canadien weed grown by the asian organized crime groups sent to the US, you said in your first post that they are sending most of it to the US these days thats exactly what the beast is, and it has gotten worse over the years as they send more and more of it here and treat it worse and worse. I'd have to say that the drying method is most responsible for making it all look the same, commercially dried weed tends to lose ALOT of its quality unless it is done by someone who REALLY knows what they are doing AKA LOUGREW

 

[lc00p4]

sometimes it looks like that shit is cut and put into bags, no dry time. that light colored beast, aka m39 pheno, is much better smoke, more dry, and it is 100 times better than wet beast. the dark beast is usually tumbled in a sifter and that's why there is barely any visible trichs. plus with stuff like brix+, who knows what kinda chems they use. seriously, what is the deal with asians and weed? yes i was a dealer, who happened to be vietnamese, and ironically slanging wet beast every now and again. had to quit slanging cuz i felt like i was letting people down getting shitty ass weed. even had a qp mold on me. first it got the yellowish mold, then turned to black mold.

 

[TGT]

Beasters is definately the canadien weed grown by the asian organized crime groups sent to the US, you said in your first post that they are sending most of it to the US these days thats exactly what the beast is, and it has gotten worse over the years as they send more and more of it here and treat it worse and worse. I'd have to say that the drying method is most responsible for making it all look the same, commercially dried weed tends to lose ALOT of its quality unless it is done by someone who REALLY knows what they are doing AKA LOUGREW

I think the reason it got progressivly worse over the years was because at first only the asians that have been growing for a while were producing it. As the demand increased they needed to increase product so they farmed a lot of their grows out to non-growers. I was told by my 'friend' that it was getting hard to find enough growers to fill the demand, so they started using families and people they wouldn't normally choose to grow a crop, even bringing people in from Vietname. I think now they realized after a while it would still sell if it wasn't great, so they just kept on creating this crap weed. Even though the market here has gone down greatly, I am sure they are still making a fortune exporting and selling to area's not yet accustom to the Beasters. And yes, he did confirm that 'his' family was sending the most of it to the USA, but where exactly he did not say.

TGT

 

[StealthFarmer]

Man those pics bring back memories from about 4-5 years ago for me....

We used to call that bud "BC" and got it for around 2400-2600 a lb, it was easy to flip that stuff a long time ago but now nobody really wants it. For me, it came in vacuum packed bags by the pound and the reason it smelled like fabric softener was because they used fabric softener sheets to try and disguise the smell when transporting/storing the stuff.

I used to get it off a Vietnamese guy here in Cali and they would bring pretty large quantities of it from Canada Im guessing. The weed really sucks, I remember sometimes a few batches would be rotten and it would really smell bad, probably from them storing it when it was still moist in those vacuum bags.

The only good thing about that weed was that it was easy to get rid of, plentiful and cheap and most of the times was seedless.

 

[Tactik]

Its so weird that I get that exact SAME weed way down south from you! It amazing how the stuff can travel all over the world. Its also from an asian who sells LARGE quanity. Crazy how the illegal trade works....

The viet mafia... I used to live around boston, and they run all that shit around there too. I was friends with a guy who had a friend who was in with them, and it's crazy how open they are about it. He was always offering p's on the cuff to AFOAF. His stuff was grown hydro. Perpetual harvest set up with two batches, a chop every 3 weeks, so the plants were flowering for 42 days. And had been in the trade for quite some time (since highschool) but growing for a few years. And, of course, he learned to grow from his cousin in canada.

Shit fetches 3100/lb in boston and the college kids eat it up. AFOAF is still in with them back home. Boy does boston love their beasters.

 

[TGT]

I wouldn't think it would be too hard to produce weed with a little more care that would blow all this crap off the face of the planet. You wonder why some organization hasn't monopolized the market yet? Can't they see the benefit of growing primo. I know it would take more care and drying methods and a lot would have to be changed, but really if it was grown in such quantiy it would take the market by storm. Makes you wonder why there isn't an Al Capone of the weed as there was for booze?

TGT

 

[SensimillaWolf]

I'm originally from Miami where beasters is completely unheard of... I dont know if the average bud down there is on par with the ones in the bay area and the west coast in general, but its some really nice stinky shit most of the time. Always, always $15 a gram. Where I live now, its a blessing to find the stinky stuff for $30 a half eighth.

I dont buy anything but the expensive good stuff when I throw down with friends, but generally we just stick to brick between my harvests.

 

[kittycrack]

TGT: "No he doesn't know I grow, I know he grows. "

you said yourself that you gave him a clone. i think he figured that one out already. If not keep eating your lucky charms. maybe im in the wrong

 

[Stalldaworld]

same thing south of mass.. ct, ri, and ny are all swamped with beast or canadian outdoor.. it all comes vacume sealed and in weight.. i have seen some great outdoor latley.. and no beast which is good, but your right college kids eat it up. around here it goes for 25-34xx depending on how much your getting and who you know..
but like i said its everywhere and it all sucks..

 

[Jon]

I wouldn't think it would be too hard to produce weed with a little more care that would blow all this crap off the face of the planet. You wonder why some organization hasn't monopolized the market yet? Can't they see the benefit of growing primo. I know it would take more care and drying methods and a lot would have to be changed, but really if it was grown in such quantiy it would take the market by storm. Makes you wonder why there isn't an Al Capone of the weed as there was for booze?

TGT

I'm with you. A little love goes a long way. All my friends say that my weed is the best they've smoked and this year was my FIRST year growing. I'm doing indoors next.

They all asked what I did because they know other growers who didn't grow as dank as mine. I said I loved the plants because that's all I could think of that I might do different than the commercial guys.

 

[Guest]

hmmm the asian gangs in cali sure got the purps and flushing thing down, but they want top $ for there herb lol

Some of the best GH grown herb I have ever liked :O