What ever happened to Dr. Dalat? I read that article in High Times and fell in love with the pics. Wanted to grow it ever since...
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Vietnamese Cannabis Seeds
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Looks like you're not the first person to ask that, I couldn't find it when I looked either :-(
Looks like you're not the first person to ask that, I couldn't find it when I looked either :-(
RE:Ace's VeitXThai: I like them and am making outcrosses from them but I've never had a black plant, maybe they're not getting cold enough in my cabinet?
I certainly think they're one of the easiest cloning plants I've ever dealt with and very vigorous, I just want to have other strains to compare with and to increase the pool of diveristy I can select from
I certainly think they're one of the easiest cloning plants I've ever dealt with and very vigorous, I just want to have other strains to compare with and to increase the pool of diveristy I can select from
inquest
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This girl turned black with low temps and gold and red with warm temps + low ferts. I believe they were getting below 50 deg F when she threw her black colors. Beautiful plants for sure.
I'd like to compare them to pure Viet Black or maybe Willy Nelson but, currently I'm planning to cross a few I have to some Lebanese. Make my own version of Oriental Express.
How warm was she when she went red and gold? do you have picks? :-D
I'll take some bud shots of mine soon but yeah it's never looked like that before!
Those sound like fucking amazing crosses, they'll be so colourful!
I'll take some bud shots of mine soon but yeah it's never looked like that before!
Those sound like fucking amazing crosses, they'll be so colourful!
inquest
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It was middle of summer and in a closet, so about 80 to 90 deg F depending on time of day and outdoor temps. HVAC was shit in that house.
I've recently cleaned out my albumns, so I've lost that pic. She was beautiful, though!
I've crossed Ace's Malawi and HazexThai to the Leb. The Malawi combined really nice, at least structurally - My first run were all male. :/ I've got a few girls this time around. The Haze cross was ok...
I've recently cleaned out my albumns, so I've lost that pic.
She was beautiful, though!I've crossed Ace's Malawi and HazexThai to the Leb. The Malawi combined really nice, at least structurally - My first run were all male. :/ I've got a few girls this time around.
The Haze cross was ok...
So both colder and warmer spaces than my grow area caused colouration? :-S
Guess I just didn't get a very colourful selection of phenotypes :-(
It sounds beautiful man Maybe I'll buy another pack if they do another release
presumeably my odds of colouration would be higher in plants which're pure VB rather than VBT hybrids?
Sorry to hear that about all the males, this seed run I almost ended up with just females lol which I can see most peole would want but isn't terribly good for breeding unless you have CS prepared and I've not tried CSing yet
Guess I just didn't get a very colourful selection of phenotypes :-(
It sounds beautiful man
Maybe I'll buy another pack if they do another release presumeably my odds of colouration would be higher in plants which're pure VB rather than VBT hybrids?
Sorry to hear that about all the males, this seed run I almost ended up with just females lol
which I can see most peole would want but isn't terribly good for breeding unless you have CS prepared and I've not tried CSing yet
inquest
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No, I had reds and golds with low nutes and black with low temps.
I'd go for STS over CS. It's way simpler. You start with chemicals of a known lab grade then mix digitally measured amounts into distilled water. Lastly combine measured amounts of silver nitrate/h2o with sodium thiosulfate/h2o that you've previously made. That's your stock solution. Some have had good luck at full strength. I've had better luck diluting it 1 to 4 or so with distilled water. Apply once a week 4-6 times. And you can spray just a small portion of a plant to reverse just that portion.
CS is subject to your aperatus and silver grade selection. Silver colloids have a tough time passing into the plant.
Wiki: "Another method of determining whether a mixture is a colloid is by passing it through a semipermeable membrane. The dispersed particles in a colloid would be unable to pass through the membrane. Dialysis takes advantage of the fact that colloids cannot diffuse through semipermeable membranes to filter them out of a medium."
STS on the other hand: Silver blocks the plants ethylene and the sulfate mobilizes the silver into the plant tissues.
I'd go for STS over CS. It's way simpler. You start with chemicals of a known lab grade then mix digitally measured amounts into distilled water. Lastly combine measured amounts of silver nitrate/h2o with sodium thiosulfate/h2o that you've previously made. That's your stock solution. Some have had good luck at full strength. I've had better luck diluting it 1 to 4 or so with distilled water. Apply once a week 4-6 times. And you can spray just a small portion of a plant to reverse just that portion.
CS is subject to your aperatus and silver grade selection. Silver colloids have a tough time passing into the plant.
Wiki: "Another method of determining whether a mixture is a colloid is by passing it through a semipermeable membrane. The dispersed particles in a colloid would be unable to pass through the membrane. Dialysis takes advantage of the fact that colloids cannot diffuse through semipermeable membranes to filter them out of a medium."
STS on the other hand: Silver blocks the plants ethylene and the sulfate mobilizes the silver into the plant tissues.
Wow thanks for the info if I get a chance to feminize I'll definately give that a go first then
if I get a chance to feminize I'll definately give that a go first then 1) No. They've been out of operation for five years now. I'd be fairly suspicious of anyone who claims they have their gear. It was very popular, and flew off the shelves once they were gone.
2) I've looked at some of Reef's later offerings, and he just doesn't seem to have those Asian strains he once had.
3) Not that I know of, outside of what's been said on this thread.
Sorry I can't give you more positive input, but that seems to be the situation at the moment.
I have one female..Luin Hahn 99 going right now from Fet and Heavens Stairway days! Looks very sativa looking! Thin leaves all the way! It is Nevils Haze crossed to Viet Black mom..c-99 dad was used! I have c-99 polen and have seeds forming now as I type this! also hit with that c-99 polen..one Joey Weeds c-99 Female! Clones are going outside in the Nor Cali. sun soon of that Luin Hahn 99 female! Great threat! I have Viet Combos to look threw.. also! Nevils Haze was said to be selected from 100's of females! I am looking forward to this harvest! monkey5
In the early 90s I was soaking at the hot springs passing joints and beers around. Got to bullshitting with this dude, he said he wished he had some smoke to share but all he had was a few seeds to give me. Said he was from Hawaii been growing out there for years. Planted them for my first indoor grow.
They were small brown seeds with no spots barely looked viable. Two sprouted one was a scraggy looking male I immediately killed(no!!) and the other was a finicky female which grew into a beautiful mother that turned so purple she turned black. Orange hairs, greenish white THC crystals totally coated. Quick seven week flowering time. Seemed to be an sativa/indica cross. Such beautiful colors. She smelled exactly like Hawaiian Punch. One of my friends who didn't know I grew it said to me trying to sound like an expert, "They water this stuff with Hawaiian Punch right before they harvest it to make it taste that way" I just chuckled to myself.
Grew her for many years, never got offspring equal to the mother. It was always tricky to grow, finally lost her. Spent the last few years looking for her. Some of the Bubba Kush crosses like peyote purple look close but aren't it. These Vietnamese black are close. My idea is to cross Vietnamese Black with a dark purple Indica. Makes sense since Hawaii is between the USA and Vietnam. Hope to breed a real Hawaiian Punch someday.
They were small brown seeds with no spots barely looked viable. Two sprouted one was a scraggy looking male I immediately killed(no!!) and the other was a finicky female which grew into a beautiful mother that turned so purple she turned black. Orange hairs, greenish white THC crystals totally coated. Quick seven week flowering time. Seemed to be an sativa/indica cross. Such beautiful colors. She smelled exactly like Hawaiian Punch. One of my friends who didn't know I grew it said to me trying to sound like an expert, "They water this stuff with Hawaiian Punch right before they harvest it to make it taste that way" I just chuckled to myself.
Grew her for many years, never got offspring equal to the mother. It was always tricky to grow, finally lost her. Spent the last few years looking for her. Some of the Bubba Kush crosses like peyote purple look close but aren't it. These Vietnamese black are close. My idea is to cross Vietnamese Black with a dark purple Indica. Makes sense since Hawaii is between the USA and Vietnam. Hope to breed a real Hawaiian Punch someday.
Do you know somewhere you can get vietnam black?
Lets not forget that Hawaii had plants of various provenance end up there over time, historically vietnam wasn't hugely linked to hawaii. Though after the war a lot of vietnamese seeds made it to the US.
What we really need is someone to make genetic profiles while many landraces are still either extant or with direct descendents with at least some kind of established link to the original.
I wish. Only the crosses some of these seed companies have. Gonna be looking for it. Honestly I have no idea if there's any Vietnamese in my Hawaiian Punch. I'm only going by pictures and strain description. Hawaii has always been a port for ships from all over the world. My strain could had Columbian, Mexican, Thai, or whatever for the Sativa part. But when I look at pictures some of the Vietnamese crosses look similar as do certain dark Indicas. I've never seen any Hawaiian strains that come even close. Except ones that have Vietnamese. Gonna be a fun, time consuming project.
bigmotaman48
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Try the Mekong high from Dutch Passion .I call mine Mrs. 5 by 5 it won,t be ready in 8 weeks though as the description says,more like 11 weeks and probably 10 to 13 ounces , my Nigerian dispensary clones are about 2 weeks ahead of my Vietnamese , not all sativas ripen the same.
does the mekong darken up in flowering?
Here are a few photographs of Vietnamese landrace cannabis from another website.
The second plant has some very broad leaves.
Notice the mountains in the background though.
In the tropics, highland strains have more indica traits like broad leaves, than in the lowland areas. My guess is that there are more clouds and rain higher up, and the broad leaves (as always) are useful in conditions of less light.
