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mikessong

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I just wanted to update...since I switched my Dabney's to daily watering, I switched the rest to daily also. I can agree with everyone who said that almost all mature plants will benefit from daily watering. However, I still maintain and agree with others that once every two days is sufficient for veg'ing and even the beginning of flowering for some strains.
 

aeric

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Hey there just wanted to say I may have come off a little righteous the other day but that's not what i intended....ultimately if ur using coco the results are gonna be good hand watering or auto... just saying multiple waterings will give more rapid growth, that it does no harm like alot of folks seem to think (because they are still thinking it's like soil) and that yield will be bigger as a result if done right. It took me awhile to come to that conclusion too, and feel like it was wasted time, so get a little impatient when i see people giving the same arguments I used to lol.... I'm not a guru either by any means....always learning.

I used 80% perlite first time, then 50% a couple times, then 30%, then none. Used 2 gallon, 1 gallon, 5". Did watering every 3 days, 2, 1 then 2x/day, 3x, 4x....4x/day, in a 5" was overall best, 1 gal was too large for my lower ceiling and heat problems (stretch) but with a high ceiling and perfect environment is probably the overall winner, considering the numbers. Tried Canna, PB-Calmag, AN. AN supplemented with PB was the winner. Would like to try vertical one day also, Krusty-ish style with the sizing, trees in 5 gallon buckets, just to see what happens lol.
 

PharmaCan

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aeric - I'm interestd in your smaller pot theory.

I just finished my first ScrOG in coco. Because of a number of problems at start-up, and general inexperience with ScrOGs, the way the growth was managed was much less than optimal. Nevertheless, I harvested around 2.5 lbs. from 4 plants in 18 sq.ft. with 1,400 watts of HPS.

I was growing in #3 pots, 30% perlite, watering twice per day using RO water, AN three part, CalMag+, LK, molasses, Sweet and Overdrive for the last few weeks. I'm getting ready to start anther grow in that cab, and I'm wondering why you think that smaller pots would be better. Just to be clear, I'm looking for information, not an argument.

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terran2

mojo said:
And nature doesn't heap up big piles of pre-washed coco fiber for the plants to grow in either. Know why? Because it doesn't rain every day and the plants couldn't make it without it. lmfao.

Peace

In Nature , especially with sativas , the plants can have lateral roots spreading over a 9' diameter area and a tap going down as much as 15' ft as well . Alot more water reaching capability . But no doubt there's a direct corellation to that wet /dry cycle later in flower and getting the most resin in the flowers & think this we've all seen true ..

I'm just on my 4th round with Coco and still experimenting ...and will admit to loving perlite too much so went with a 60/40% mix and settled on the larger 3gal mesh pots . With that added porousness with perlite in the mix , have been going with atleast 2 waterings/day . Glad this thread started up for there's never any set way to go and have been very focussed on dialing in this perlite/coco mix and welcome any discussion on the subject . Just from my observations coco does stay moist , but when under 1000's with alot of air circulating that moistness may be a bit misleading ...or so my insincts inform me . So i've not been hesitant to water a little more if needed @ least twice a day . But i certainly want to try a lighter nute approach & less watering with straight coco on the next round too .

I have done plants in 5gal containers w/coco and they were just straight out fire~monsters ....the best i've seen so far . But if anyone can show me how to achieve those results in a 1 or 2gal container , i'm all ears & eyes!
lol.

*~* Here's pic of a nice Hindu Kush x Skunk1 (POG) in a "Nursery 5gal" .... there's just absolutely no way i was going to get this result in a 1or2 gal container kids ....(or please show me the way now ! lol...)

What i'm thinking is a taller pot that's top~dripped would be ideal , like the "perfect pots" where the roots reach farther down & bathed in water/nutes in more of a cascade ... as i'm not as enthusiastic now with the squatter 3 gal mesh pots but only on first round with them .

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terran2

aeric said:
Watering coco "too much" is not an issue, coco is not soil. Canna is talking about specific situations, you'd be better off following their guidelines for cogr boards. Read the stickies folks....especially Gaius...stubbornness will only get you a Bonsai version of what you could get, on that note, I'm done trying to convince anyone of anything on this forum.


** I pm'd gaius and did recieve a cordial reply recently on this subject ...though he's been off busy other places nice of him to take the time for this note . If i remember correctly his epic grow of the WW on coco slabs ...and he did irrigate/drip ---> 4 x's /day .

(Also , he was also recirclating his nutes and reusing his medium up to 3 times
as well , being completely dialed in .<g)

Hi terran2,

there is not really a wrong way, i have found that coco works well with all kinds of watering planns, as long as heavy salt concentrations are avoided and the plan is held to. its important for the plants to have regular waterings, if u go with 3 times a day, then stick with it. once the plants have had a certain watering rythimn its not good to change it. a flush here or there is no problem but to go from 1 watering a day to 3 or 4 after a few weeks would be bad for the plants development. the roots adapt to the watering system and will take time to adapt to a new system. so in the end its up to you, if u wanna water 1x a day or 3x or 5x.

im afraid i don't spend time on these sites at the moment so excuse the long time it took me to reply.

peace out and good growings to you...

For anyone wanting more info on this , please refer to his thread here :

" What Can Be Done with Coco Slabs & Drippers "
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=47112&page=4&pp=15

* That WW beauty , nute shy sativa pheno he had ...they sure did need that netting ! A pic is worth a 1000 words ....(lol)

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bernzoo

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i was asked to post some pictures of plants in coco only watered every 3-4 days in 11 liter pots.

here are 2 of an elder grow (i hope the pic upload works) , the current grow is still under 20/4 but i will post pics once it gets interesting.

peace


 
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