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VerdantGreen's quarters - 250HPS organic mod.scrog
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fo20, Encore - thanks for the kind words 
bobbo, i would have the screen somewhere around 6" above the pot, maybe slightly less. if your plants are already taller then you can either bend them down as you fit the screen or supercrop them if you need to. the plant will look a mess but 24 hours later will start to make sense. my advice is not to weave the branches over and under but keep them under the screen until you let them go upwards into colas. i tend to top my plants in veg once or twice to get at least 4 strong branches and with luck these will get sidebranches too and that will be enough for a 1ft square field of colas
with luck your plants will be nice and bendy which helps manipulate them. most strains are easy to bend without snapping.
best way to learn this is to do it
DiscoBiscuit - thanks for stopping by. tbh i thought about making my screens slope up towards the edges a bit like yours but i also find it useful to be able to rotate them sometimes when the canopy dictates this so i kept them flat.
VG
bobbo, i would have the screen somewhere around 6" above the pot, maybe slightly less. if your plants are already taller then you can either bend them down as you fit the screen or supercrop them if you need to. the plant will look a mess but 24 hours later will start to make sense. my advice is not to weave the branches over and under but keep them under the screen until you let them go upwards into colas. i tend to top my plants in veg once or twice to get at least 4 strong branches and with luck these will get sidebranches too and that will be enough for a 1ft square field of colas
with luck your plants will be nice and bendy which helps manipulate them. most strains are easy to bend without snapping.
best way to learn this is to do it
DiscoBiscuit - thanks for stopping by. tbh i thought about making my screens slope up towards the edges a bit like yours
but i also find it useful to be able to rotate them sometimes when the canopy dictates this so i kept them flat.VG
DiscoBiscuit - thanks for stopping by. tbh i thought about making my screens slope up towards the edges a bit like yours
VG
Good idea. Might make a flat one myself.
you might be able to get away with 2 plants and separate modules side by side in your cab - as long as they werent too stretchy
hey nederwiet, thanks, i get 2-4 ounces per plant, last time i counted the whole cab yield it added up to 10 ounces i think, (280g) but if i ran 4 good yielders in there it could be a lot more.
one of the things i like best is trying new ones though...
one of the things i like best is trying new ones though...
Hi VG,showing what to do if you run out of height in a scrog. you fill the screen and let them grow up, then as you run out of height you can pull the branches carefully back down through the screen to reduce the height of the tops, then secure them with wire to stop them stop them springing back up again. check the wire regularly and move it a little to stop it digging into the branches. you can also keep pulling them down a little more every few days. notice that the main stem has split from all the pressure but thats fine. methods like this are why it's much better to keep all the branches under the screen and let them grow through rather than weaving them over and under
VG
I wanted to share my solution with you,...since you were the one who inspired and provided the scrog knowledge.
I used paperclips and strings tied to wire hooks. I use hooks because they easily hook onto branches (that way you don't have to bend the wire around a branch) and chicken fence wire, then pull the strings and clip them with paperclips onto the bucket.
It's a simplified modscrog, because you don't need to make a solid wooden frame. Instead, a chicken fence wire is cut into the appropriate size, and then pulled down on top of the plants. Same result as you do with your screens, but using the string/paperclip/hooks instead of the wooden frame and legs. The chicken wire screen is pulled down, but can also be raised up during flowering, to keep buds equally spaced and to pull the taller ones down (which is why it looks crooked).
The chicken wire also serves as a frame to support the weak branches that may normally bend down under the weight of their own bud. In other words, a bunch of branches that meet up at the chicken fence that binds them together create a solid enough column support to eliminate the wooden frame altogether. The wildest branches get their own dedicated paperclip/hook/string (as you have done in your photo to regulate height), for perfectly even scrog, with all buds equally high .
Could you explain how to use your mod-scrog units again? Position the mod-scrog unit over the plant when you switch to 12/12, & let the plant grow up into the screen? Once the canopy is pretty much full, let the buds through the screen & trim off all the lower branches?
I also read on page 29 in someones post it says not to FIM, or pinch the top's-should I, or shouldnt I? Won't I get the extra shoots Im looking for? Thanks for the info!
I also read on page 29 in someones post it says not to FIM, or pinch the top's-should I, or shouldnt I? Won't I get the extra shoots Im looking for? Thanks for the info!
hey D9 - thats a good method and your plant-supported modular screen looks great with an awesome canopy - what light is that under??
bobbo - yep its pretty much like you say. i like the screens to be firmly fixed to the pots and this helps protect my plants as i put them in and out of the cab (which is awkward for me)
not sure which post you mean about fim-ing. i do top my plants though sometimes more than once also pinch/supercrop sometimes. im sure fim-ing may work too but its not something i have tried because it looks like it's hard to get consistent results. how big the plant is before putting to flower depends on the stretch for that strain but i find that on average i want the tops to be a bit taller than screen height when i repot, fit screen and flower. as for trimming off all the lower branches im a bit lazy about that. some lower branches will stretch enough to go straight through the screen and form a cola. these can be useful as they can be pulled back under and then repositioned in any gaps also untrimmed lower branches are useful for reveg cuttings which can save genetics if anything goes wrong with mums or earlier clones
boots
guanito - yeah give it a go!
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should have some pics for you tomorrow - whole family has has tummy bug, kids off school - they are getting better now but im feeling decidedly queasy
VG
and your plant-supported modular screen looks great with an awesome canopy - what light is that under??bobbo - yep its pretty much like you say. i like the screens to be firmly fixed to the pots and this helps protect my plants as i put them in and out of the cab (which is awkward for me)
not sure which post you mean about fim-ing. i do top my plants though sometimes more than once also pinch/supercrop sometimes. im sure fim-ing may work too but its not something i have tried because it looks like it's hard to get consistent results. how big the plant is before putting to flower depends on the stretch for that strain but i find that on average i want the tops to be a bit taller than screen height when i repot, fit screen and flower. as for trimming off all the lower branches im a bit lazy about that. some lower branches will stretch enough to go straight through the screen and form a cola. these can be useful as they can be pulled back under and then repositioned in any gaps
also untrimmed lower branches are useful for reveg cuttings which can save genetics if anything goes wrong with mums or earlier clones boots
guanito - yeah give it a go!
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should have some pics for you tomorrow - whole family has has tummy bug, kids off school - they are getting better now but im feeling decidedly queasy
VG
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mugenbao
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you all feel better real soon!
((PS: Looking forward to the new pics))
Billy DeLions
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Rounding up supplies today for some of modscrogs. Very good ideas VG. Thanks!
Thank you oldbootz!
Hi guanito, it's a 5 gal Home Depot bucket. I followed VG's advice and went with the biggest container that fit in my space.
Thank you VG, you are the true master, and I bow to you! I'm just using what I have learned from you. "Plant-supported modular screen" only you could come up with such a good self explanatory name!
It's Super Lemon Haze (greenhouse seeds) with 1 month veg under 150w hps + two 23w 6500k cfl lights. I think of it as my poor-man version of your dual spectrum sunmaster hps
, I don't know if the 6500k light is really beneficial, but I'm just trying to copy what you do, by adding different spectrum light to simulate natural sunlight.The 150w hps is shared by two plants, there is another plant going (The Church, greenhouse seeds) in a 5gal smart pot. Total available space is approximately 16"x28"x36" (LxWxH).
Hope you get well soon!
Oops, sorry. I think I misread the post on 29 by SMM. It said to watch out not to pinch or crush the stems. I thought it meant dont pinch the top's.
I fitted one of my Cheese girl's with the screen lastnight. I know, not the UK Cheese, lol. She has been in veg for @ least a couple weeks, & is up to the screen pretty much, About 8-12" tall. I believe this strain is a 50/50, would you say now is the time to clean up the lower branches, & put her into flower? Or is she already to tall? I'd think she'd stretch about a foot through the screen, but Im not sure. Im a newly licensed patient & these are my first grow's, lol. How tall are your screen's from the dirt? Do you have different height screen's for different strain's?
Thanks for your quick reply's!, & get well!
I fitted one of my Cheese girl's with the screen lastnight. I know, not the UK Cheese, lol. She has been in veg for @ least a couple weeks, & is up to the screen pretty much, About 8-12" tall. I believe this strain is a 50/50, would you say now is the time to clean up the lower branches, & put her into flower? Or is she already to tall? I'd think she'd stretch about a foot through the screen, but Im not sure. Im a newly licensed patient & these are my first grow's, lol. How tall are your screen's from the dirt? Do you have different height screen's for different strain's?
Thanks for your quick reply's!, & get well!
Oops, sorry. I think I misread the post on 29 by SMM. It said to watch out not to pinch or crush the stems. I thought it meant dont pinch the top's.
I fitted one of my Cheese girl's with the screen lastnight. I know, not the UK Cheese, lol. She has been in veg for @ least a couple weeks, & is up to the screen pretty much, About 8-12" tall. I believe this strain is a 50/50, would you say now is the time to clean up the lower branches, & put her into flower? Or is she already to tall? I'd think she'd stretch about a foot through the screen, but Im not sure. Im a newly licensed patient & these are my first grow's, lol. How tall are your screen's from the dirt? Do you have different height screen's for different strain's?
Thanks for your quick reply's!, & get well!
I fitted one of my Cheese girl's with the screen lastnight. I know, not the UK Cheese, lol. She has been in veg for @ least a couple weeks, & is up to the screen pretty much, About 8-12" tall. I believe this strain is a 50/50, would you say now is the time to clean up the lower branches, & put her into flower? Or is she already to tall? I'd think she'd stretch about a foot through the screen, but Im not sure. Im a newly licensed patient & these are my first grow's, lol. How tall are your screen's from the dirt? Do you have different height screen's for different strain's?
Thanks for your quick reply's!, & get well!
Billy - good luck with the screens!
D9 - sounds good and the plants seem to like that light combo!
bobbo - have you topped the plant yet or is still a single stem??
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lets have a look in the cab shall we
thats the two sourdogs at the front - you can see hw much higher they are propped up compared to the BB and LT at the back .
blueberry at about 5 weeks. looks great, if a little tall, but hard to get a good shot of it
Lemon thai about 4.5 weeks. looking good too and still very similar to the Bb
and the sourdogs at 5.5/6 weeks are starting to look pretty chunky
sourdog2 - still with the odd looking cola but the rest looks healthy so not too worried
VG
D9 - sounds good and the plants seem to like that light combo!
bobbo - have you topped the plant yet or is still a single stem??
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lets have a look in the cab shall we
thats the two sourdogs at the front - you can see hw much higher they are propped up compared to the BB and LT at the back .
blueberry at about 5 weeks. looks great, if a little tall, but hard to get a good shot of it
Lemon thai about 4.5 weeks. looking good too and still very similar to the Bb
and the sourdogs at 5.5/6 weeks are starting to look pretty chunky
sourdog2 - still with the odd looking cola but the rest looks healthy so not too worried
VG
Hey V,
Yes, I have topped the plant already. I also used the FIM technique as well because I didnt think I would have the Mod-Scrog unit done. Shall I put her into flower? Thanks again! Whenever I look @ the pics of inside the cab I droool, I would like to get the results that you do someday! Keep up the good work
Yes, I have topped the plant already. I also used the FIM technique as well because I didnt think I would have the Mod-Scrog unit done. Shall I put her into flower? Thanks again! Whenever I look @ the pics of inside the cab I droool, I would like to get the results that you do someday! Keep up the good work
