veg clones that were flowered for three days

[Paully_B]

gonna need help on this one guys....thanks so much! i dont think i am over watering...i am giving them drinks once every 4-5 days roughly....there is a possibility that i am giving them too much water when i do actually water though. im not sure about that.i usually give them just under a gallon each....20% runoff or so

 

[Stress_test]

Never flush a sick plant. Fix the problem or deficiency first. Flushing only compounds problems.

Odds are that your plant diet isn't supplying sufficient immobile nutes and chelated minerals which will cause lock out. You need to get some food back to those plants, but you need to get a balanced dose to em so they will uptake properly.

I water when the pots are dry, and I soak the soil and over watering is never a problem.

I'd mix up a batch of this recipe and feed em all at least twice with it, 3 times wouldn't hurt either.
16 crushed Aspirin,
3/8 cup Brer Rabbit Molasses,
8 tsp Jack's Classic All Purpose (20-20-20),
3 Tbls Epsom Salt,
8 Tbls Lilly Miller Vitamin B1 Plant Starter.
Mixed in 3 cups hot water (boiling hot) to dissolve solids.
Makes 1 quart concentrate. Stored in Refer.
Mixes 16 Gal. @ 1/4 cup per gallon.
Ph 6.5 - 7.

Deficiencies are almost always caused when 1 or more nutrients are not being supplied in sufficient quantities to allow the plants roots to uptake properly.
If all crucial nutrients are being provided in sufficient amounts, salts don't build up and lock out won't happen.

 

[Paully_B]

stress test. is there an easier combination of nutes i can buy than that? i dont have either of those and am not sure if i have access to any of it...

i figured a flush would be good..damnit, i was wrong...i figured it couldnt really hurt. i can imagine i am over watering....i am watering once every 4-5 days and my moisture meter reads under 1 in three different spots in the pot before i decide to water...i flushed them all pretty good this afternoon thinking that is couldnt help since i was having a lockout or deficiency....wont be ready for another drink till sunday or so

 

[Paully_B]

here are the new pics i snapped....things down there are prefect, except the ladies...temps, humidity, air circulationg...this is my first so i am trying to learn as much as possible.

i just snapped these 6 hrs after flushing with 6.4ph water

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do i have a ph problem with my soil? how do i adjust soil ph? im done using all these organic nutes, i am going to KISS and just use maxibloom....do you think i can pick up on that when these ladies bounce back or should i wait till next time around?

 

[Paully_B]

also, should i just go ahead and trim the affected fan leaves off?

 

[Stress_test]

stress test. is there an easier combination of nutes i can buy than that? i dont have either of those and am not sure if i have access to any of it...

i figured a flush would be good..damnit, i was wrong...i figured it couldnt really hurt. i can imagine i am over watering....i am watering once every 4-5 days and my moisture meter reads under 1 in three different spots in the pot before i decide to water...i flushed them all pretty good this afternoon thinking that is couldnt help since i was having a lockout or deficiency....wont be ready for another drink till sunday or so

Okay pardner...
You can substitute the Jack's Classic with your own nutes.

The Molasses, epsom salts, and Vit B1 are the keys to this recipe really. The molasses is loaded with vital micro nutes and minerals that help the plant uptake mobile nutes.
Epsom salts keeps your cal/mag in check and the B1 cleans the roots and encourages new growth as well as containing additional chelated minerals to carry other nutes into the plant.

I use Jack's Classic 20-20-20, which recommends a mixture of 1/2 tsp per gallon. My recipe adds 4 gallons extra water and sufficient micro nutes and chelated minerals to prevent uptake problems.

I also NEVER have to flush my plants. Flushing should be reserved for overdoses, and never when plants show deficiencies as flushing them will only compound any deficiencies because it washes any remaining nutrients out of the soil.

So a plant that starts with a minor Iron or Zinc deficiency that's easily fixed with Molasses, can quickly become a major overall deficiency after flushing.

 

[Paully_B]

hmmm....my head is spinning right now

 

[Paully_B]

they are looking worse for the wear this morning...more yellowing and leaves on the bottom are crumbling...i am at a loss....the yellow is moving up....runoff from last night was 6.2ph

i fed full strength buddha grow and earth juice catalyst...i dont think i over nuted em. there is some sort of def. that my food isnt providing

 

[softyellowlight]

Yes, fix your pH now. I would start watering with 7.5 even if I am trying to make up for soil that has gone too acidic.

 

[Paully_B]

what should the runoff ph be? you think i need to water above 7ph to fix what i have going on?

 

[Paully_B]

here are some pics from this morning...about 10hrs after being fed again

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[Paully_B]

updates in the morning...looking better than i though they were gonna look....will post pics in the morning....im ezhausted

 

[Paully_B]

so, i have been gone since thursday and i come back to them looking like this...i think overall they are looking better but i have a few leaves on each that have totally yellowed and shriveled up...no growth looks good but still not looking 100%...please continue to help me out!!!

 

[Paully_B]

i am thinking cal/mag?

 

[tube dude]

Cal/mag will work if you have some but I think epsoms salt is all you need. If it were me I would remove the crumpled yellow leaves. They will not recover and are basicaly dead anyway.

 

[Paully_B]

i used cal/mag and will report back when new pics warrant it.

i transplanted to 5gal pots as the 3gal bags had been out grown...roots were a little bound but nothing terrible. i am sure they are enjoying their new house.

full strength buddha grow
3/4 strength earth juice catalyst
full strength thrive alive b-1
and a full strength dose of botanicare cal/mag

each girl got a good soaking...possibly 10-20% runoff. ph of water/feed was 6.5

keep your fingers crossed everyone. i am hoping they are going to be happy and healthy enough to flip to 12/12...also, cut off all the necrotic leaves

 

[Paully_B]

after two days in their new home and plenty of food...i used fox farm happy frog soil cut with perilite.

can anyone identify whats going on in pics 2-4...there are brown spots that i really want to get rid of....seems likes its still spreading

 

[Paully_B]

here is the update: looking MUCH better after feeding with cal/mag three days ago. I also transplanted to 5gal pots. today is my second day of foliar feeding with buddha grow and cal/mag...also sprinkled some dolomite lime top dressed....i cannot wait for the pots to dry out and will water with 7.5 or 8ph water to bring the overall soil ph up to prevent nute lock and help with the overalll health. TONS of new growth. i have cleaned up most of the necrotic leaves as well