Vaporizing recommendations?

[Truthman]

SUBLIMATOR or FYM!
I gotta back up everything GS says bout the subliminator < I agree I hated mostly all vapes b4 this , My personal favorite thing about it the fact you can hit the weed and to a small dab in the same blast , (who is better than u ) , and unlike most vaporizers u actually do conserve ganja , cause u only load a point 1 !!! at a time for a huge hit!!!, then u save the after vape bud for making edibles,.. if u are a head , if u are serious about herb , u need one of these....
~GS , how is that titanium nail piece? , my buddy who is a dab fiend wants to get one asap


TS

Most quality vapes do conserve herb. The only time it wouldn't, is if you didn't know how to use it so you load too much in the bowl, and you use too low of a temperature, along with a fast inhale. In fact .10 grams is the average amount that vaporizer users who are in the know, use. I use even less for each session that I do. If you were doing it right, you wouldn't need to make edibles out of your abv, because there would be no cannabinoids left to use, at least the kind that are psychoactive.

I am VERY SERIOUS about my herb usage, to the point my diet, and lifestyle revolves around it, so I doubt I would love vaporizers so much if I wasn't. I'm not knocking you for loving the sublimator, but when you claim that it is for serious cannabis users, you are wrong. you should state it's for serious recreational users who love the rush, and quick high. For people who want more of a medical effect, love no degradation of the substances, and high concentration of vapor to air ratio, this may not be it due to not being able to control the temperature accurately, and the high condensation that takes place.

Anyway, have fun with your purchase.

 

[Green Supreme]

Truthman , another thing I will point out about the Sublimator, is it seems to saturate the cananbinoid receptors thoroughly. After 3 Sublimator bowls I can go for 2-3 hours while I work and my back won't make me vape again. Any other mode of cannabis intake ,maybe 40 minutes to an hour. No flash in the pan high here, its up for the duration. Check out some of the videos by Enrico. He has wasted Franco and crew from Greenhouse. Arjian even refused to try it after he saw Franco. At the TY Cup in Toronto Remo gives it props.

Bubbleman, Marihuanaman have responded well. The list gets bigger every day. If he takes this to the Hightimes Cup, I guarantee he will get best new product. Peace GS

 

[Truthman]

Truthman , another thing I will point out about the Sublimator, is it seems to saturate the cananbinoid receptors thoroughly. After 3 Sublimator bowls I can go for 2-3 hours while I work and my back won't make me vape again. Any other mode of cannabis intake ,maybe 40 minutes to an hour. No flash in the pan high here, its up for the duration. Check out some of the videos by Enrico. He has wasted Franco and crew from Greenhouse. Arjian even refused to try it after he saw Franco. At the TY Cup in Toronto Remo gives it props.

Bubbleman, Marihuanaman have responded well. The list gets bigger every day. If he takes this to the Hightimes Cup, I guarantee he will get best new product. Peace GS

I'm not saying the sublimator is horrible, and doesn't work, just that being that we don't know the temperature, and most people who tend to use vaporizers don't use them properly, you can't just claim it is the best vaporizer out there, and is changing the game as some are saying. A good quality vaporizer, when used correctly, will saturate you receptors. Plus, like I stated earlier I want to prevent ANY degradation of the actives I boil off, so it is important to know what temperature I am vaping at. Most quality, accurate, temperature controlled vaporizers, if you start at a high temperature, it will knock them out. I have seen people had to stop puffing when they vaped using the volcano when it was set on high, as it was too strong for them. The sublimator seems to be a high temperature vaporizer due to the fact that you can vape hash in it. You need a high temperature to vape hash when it is in large chunks.

If you start your vape session at a high temperature, you WILL burn some of the lower boiling oils, and I don't want that most of the time. I like to raise the temperature in increments when I'm just chilling out, most of the time. I am really a snob when it comes to my vapor, so the bar is set high for me. More power to you, if you're happy though.

 

[Green Supreme]

I'm not saying the sublimator is horrible, and doesn't work, just that being that we don't know the temperature, and most people who tend to use vaporizers don't use them properly, you can't just claim it is the best vaporizer out there, and is changing the game as some are saying. A good quality vaporizer, when used correctly, will saturate you receptors. Plus, like I stated earlier I want to prevent ANY degradation of the actives I boil off, so it is important to know what temperature I am vaping at. MOst vaporizers, if you start at a high temperature, it will knock them out. I have seen people had to stop puffing when they vaped using the volcano when it was set on high, as it was too strong for them.

If you start your vape session at a high temperature, you WILL burn some of the lower boiling oils, and I don't want that most of the time. I am really a snob when it comes to my vapor, so the bar is set high for me. More power to you, if you're happy though.

Ok. Peace GS

 

[Clive]

Hi TM hows things, with your tolerance how many times do you reload the chamber ?. i weigh about .1 then split that into 3 loads using tiny amounts in the chamber and that gets me shit faced. but im sure with vaping i can get my tolerance even lower.

 

[Truthman]

Hi TM hows things, with your tolerance how many times do you reload the chamber ?. i weigh about .1 then split that into 3 loads using tiny amounts in the chamber and that gets me shit faced. but im sure with vaping i can get my tolerance even lower.

What's going on Clive, how's everything?

I do the same thing, and load until I'm satisfied. My goal is to just to have a day to chill, and seeing how much I can do.

With lowering tolerance, I changed my workout routine. I posted it at FC. You should find it there in my posts. Peace.

 

[Green Supreme]

Ahhhh FC. nuff said. Peace GS

 

[BudToaster]

Ahhhh FC. nuff said. Peace GS

oh, man ... we're a nice enough sort over there. just a little jaded, perhaps, skeptical, maybe.

i greatly appreciate how open Enrico is about the internal design of the sub ... food for thought, for sure.

 

[Green Supreme]

Ok, well this is a huge waste and needs to stop. People taking these stupidly large dabs and chuffing hits is bs. Should be the biggest hit you can hold for 10 seconds like the old Trichome challenge at the cup.

Here is Rev, Ryan failing miserably at a 5 gram budder hit on the Sublimator dudes E Nail. We have a reverend down, a reverend is down.He has fallen and he can't get up.

I heard he was on the potblock the next day bragging he took a 4 gram budder hit. FAIL. Peace GS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fs5eUfPIZ_8

 

[Sativa Dragon]

It was like watching someone try smoking for the first time they want to be cool but they don't want to inhale, that was indeed a huge waste. I will admit however it was pretty cool to see the sublimator in action. And the Rev. having a fit in the back yard.

Ah Squamish B.C.

Peace

 

[teemu shalanie]

truthman, I have many vapes that I know how to use , thnx ..and many have said it , best new canna-invention hands down,
how can u compare 2 things one of which u havent tried .....I cant
also if you are on FC look up abv brownies , tons of people who vape use abv weed to cook with.
SCIENCE
TS

 

[OGShush]

Ok, well this is a huge waste and needs to stop. People taking these stupidly large dabs and chuffing hits is bs. Should be the biggest hit you can hold for 10 seconds like the old Eagle Bill challenge at the cup.

Here is Rev, Ryan failing miserably at a 5 gram budder hit on the Sublimator dudes E Nail. We have a reverend down, a reverend is down.He has fallen and he can't get up.

I heard he was on the potblock the next day bragging he took a 4 gram budder hit. FAIL. Peace GS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fs5eUfPIZ_8

I totally agree about holding a dab for ten seconds. If you manage to do this with a good sized dab your eyes should cross involuntarily after about 6 seconds.

I don't think that was a complete fail though, he cheeked most of those hits and still got baked. Why? Because of the sheer volume of vapor coming into contact with the mucus membrane in his mouth.

Honestly though I think if you don't care about efficiency at all doing single gigantic wasteful dabs is where it's at. If you can get yourself to cough hard enough that you're fighting back vomit and wiping tears from your eyes you probably won't need another dab for a while.

 

[Truthman]

truthman, I have many vapes that I know how to use , thnx ..and many have said it , best new canna-invention hands down,
how can u compare 2 things one of which u havent tried .....I cant
also if you are on FC look up abv brownies , tons of people who vape use abv weed to cook with.
SCIENCE
TS

I was just replying to what you posted that wasn't true for me, and a lot of other people. Clive posted that he uses .1, and the way it's used, get him blasted. You claimed that the sublimator allows you to do the same thing, and conserve herb, while other vaporizers don't. This is not the case when used for A LOT of people.

The same for abv. When done properly, when getting the maximum effect out of your vaporizer, you would get nothing out of your abv when ingesting, at least that is psychoactive. Just because a lot of people do something, doesn't mean it's being done right.

 

[Green Supreme]

Terps are where its at. THC is over rated. Peace GS

 

[Sativa Dragon]

I was just replying to what you posted that wasn't true for me, and a lot of other people. Clive posted that he uses .1, and the way it's used, get him blasted. You claimed that the sublimator allows you to do the same thing, and conserve herb, while other vaporizers don't. This is not the case when used for A LOT of people.

The same for abv. When done properly, when getting the maximum effect out of your vaporizer, you would get nothing out of your abv when ingesting, at least that is psychoactive. Just because a lot of people do something, doesn't mean it's being done right.

My Arizer, doesn't go past 260, it seems to do just fine with vaping granted it is definitely a different high than eating or smoking, I was curious about my ABV that I have saved up and that shit still has plenty of gas left, I rolled a small joint and got baked, the best is that it is already had the THCA broken down into THC for eating. I haven't yet but I will be trying this with my ABV.

Thanks all

Peace

 

[Sativa Dragon]

I just ate some of my ABV, about a tablespoon, pretty disgusting taste but not as bad as going to the dentist. I shall update you on the results, 260 degree ABV ingestion.

Peace

 

[Truthman]

My Arizer, doesn't go past 260, it seems to do just fine with vaping granted it is definitely a different high than eating or smoking, I was curious about my ABV that I have saved up and that shit still has plenty of gas left, I rolled a small joint and got baked, the best is that it is already had the THCA broken down into THC for eating. I haven't yet but I will be trying this with my ABV.

Thanks all

Peace

The arizer's temperature display is not really accurate so that probably isn't the temperature you're really vaping at, considering that is 500f, and you would be smoking if it were the true temperature.

What you should do is lower the temperature to around 210c, inhale VERY SLOW for 10 seconds or longer until your lungs are full, and that should give you better results.

 

[OGShush]

I've been fucking around with ABV for a while and I've found the best solution is to rinse it in some cheesecloth like you would with quinoa. Otherwise whatever you make with it will taste like an asshole sandwich. I wash it for as long as I possibly can and then toss it in boiling water, add my coconut oil and soy lecithin and then just separate like normal.

The resulting layer of coconut oil is light green and doesn't smell too strongly of vape and seems to be just as potent. The taste is still present in whatever you make but it's nowhere near as strong and offensive.

 

[mack 10]

The rev got sublimated!!
I want one!
mack.

 

[Clive]

truthmans being very polite that subliminator is shit. It would be crap for anyone that enjoys connoisseur vaping. Vaporising is not about producing big thick clouds and blowing smoke out like some idiot gangster rapper. Its about absorbing what you take in theirs no bad shit in it like smoke. The body doesnt really want to reject anything thats why its so effective much much better than smoking.

For a connoisseur vape experience you need to use tiny amounts and only fill the the bag a tiny amount. Thats if you use a bag type system. and you also want an accurate temperature display so you can dial in your needs. those bong type vapes like the cloud are great for weekend binge smokers who want to look cool on crappy you tube vids trying to get girls by blowing vapour in their faces lol. However for a true vape experience you need to get your wallets out and spend big. The volcano is my main vape i like the DBV but its nowhere near as effective as the volcano.