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Vaccinations: Good, Bad or Just Plain Ugly

Vaccinations: Good, Bad or Just Plain Ugly


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yortbogey

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TO get the Flu shot or NOT.... that is the question...





The FDA and other "watchdog" government agencies seldom are called to account for erroneous or irresponsible decisions. In the Dow Chemical silicone breast implant suit, the government was recently awarded $9.8 million for medical expenses paid out through Medicare and Medicaid. It didn't seem to matter that another agency, the FDA, of the same government had previously approved the use and sale of these implants and is currently considering whether to allow them to be sold again.

Further, these same agencies show definite bias when it comes to evaluating the risks associated with drugs. A good example is the fact that the agencies are constantly pushing for vaccinations and flu shots. For some reason, however, they neglect to tell the public that the preservative in these flu shots and vaccines is mercury.

Is there such a thing as healthy mercury?
When it comes to other sources of mercury, though, they are extremely vigilant. They have issued repeated warnings on the consumption of various fish, including tuna, shark, swordfish, and mahi-mahi, because of possible mercury contamination. And since mercury is particularly harmful to nerve cells, government health authorities have stressed that infants and small children shouldn't be fed these foods, and pregnant and nursing mothers should avoid eating tuna also.
However the facts state that most canned tuna contains less mercury contamination than tuna steaks, which come from larger tuna. It's hard to tell how much, if any, mercury these products contain. Smaller fish are safer, and so are fish like sole, sardines, herring, bass, catfish, salmon and shellfish.

Although the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) has determined that the maximum allowable daily exposure to mercury is 0.1 microgram per kilogram of body weight, the new flu vaccine for babies, called Fluzone, contains 25 micrograms of mercury per 0.5 ml dose.

Practically all vaccines contain mercury and aluminum. And vaccines are not "safer" sources of these toxic minerals. It doesn't matter if the mercury comes from fish or from a vaccine. The potential for neurological damage remains the same. But for some reason, even though we're warned about fish consumption, vaccines and flu shots are strongly encouraged and, in many instances, even required by law. It shouldn't come as any surprise that more babies seem to be developing autism problems, and the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease is steadily increasing.

Alzheimer's linked to flu shots
In the year 2000, there were approximately 5 million people in the U.S. with Alzheimer's, and it has become the fourth leading cause of death in individuals over the age of 75. By the year 2010, it is estimated that over 7 million individuals will have the disease, and by 2025, 22 million will develop Alzheimer's.
As the general population continues to consume more contaminated food, water, and medicines, these predictions may very well prove accurate. One expert at the 1997 National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) International Vaccine Conference stated that anyone who had five consecutive flu vaccine shots increased their risk of developing Alzheimer's disease by a factor of 10 over someone who received only two or fewer shots.

A powerful herb to prevent alzheimer's
It's worth mentioning, while we're on the Alzheimer's topic, that the elderly in India have the lowest incidence of Alzheimer's disease in the world. Only 1 percent of the elderly in India suffer from Alzheimer's. In contrast, the Alzheimer's Association in this country says that 10% of our population over 65 years old has the disease, and half of those over 85 have Alzheimer's. Researchers have theorized that the low incidence of Alzheimer's among the Indian population could be due to their increased consumption of the spice turmeric, a component of curry. Animal studies have supported this theory.
Studies have shown that when either turmeric or curcumin, (a major component of turmeric) was added to the diets of animals bred to develop Alzheimer's, the brain damage was significantly lessened. [Neurobiol Aging 01;22(6):993-1005] [J Neurosci 01:21(21):8370-8377]

Turmeric has been shown to have very strong antioxidant properties that can be very effective at normal dietary doses. This spice may be one of the easiest and least expensive methods of combating the growing epidemic of Alzheimer's disease.

Better than a flu shot
When it comes to beating the flu, selenium can increase your odds. Selenium is a necessary mineral for the production of antioxidants within the body. New animal research from the University of North Carolina has found that a dietary deficiency of selenium may cause a harmless strain of the flu virus to mutate into a virulent pathogen.
When selenium-deficient mice were given a known flu virus and compared to mice with normal selenium levels, researchers found that the selenium-deficient animals experienced far more serious symptoms, such as lung damage. Based on this new research, other researchers are wondering if the more potent viruses, such as HIV, also mutated in environments where there were selenium deficiencies. It makes sense when you consider the well-known fact that most of the worldwide flu outbreaks originate in China, where large segments of the population are selenium-deficient.

Whether you decide to get flu shots or other vaccinations is a personal choice but as you weigh the pros and cons of such a decision, don't be naive enough to think any of our government agencies have your best interests as their top priority. It could be a fatal mistake.



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http://altmedangel.com/vaccine.htm
 
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I've never been vaccinated and don't plan on starting either.

If i ever catch a deadly disease, I'll just accept my faith and die.
I won't try playing god by fighting it or going to the hospital.
 

k-s-p

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Absolutely won't get one. I was forced to have them years ago but I won't have them willingly.
 

bobblehead

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Without reading the article... I'll say that people who feel that vaccinations are bad or just plain ugly are fools.

Diseases that used to kill people in the thousands or even hundreds of thousands have been eliminated, or nearly eliminated.

The people most likely to die from contracting the flu are the very young and elderly... But even as a young healthy person who can fight the virus, you are a carrier and you can pass the virus to the more vulnerable populations.

So please, if you're elderly or you go outside your house and are near infants and the elderly... Get vaccinated!
 

HidingInTheHaze

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Take a look at the CDC's ingredient list for popular vaccine's and then read the list of side effects and decide for yourself.


There is some really weird shit in them, mercury, formaldehyde, food colorings, aspartame, msg, fetal bovine serum, monkey cells, aborted fetus stem cells, etc..

I was also just reading not long ago in a medical journal that some vaccines are not as effective as once thought because of the rapid rate at which some diseases mutate.

I would never get a flu shot, because it seems half the people that get the flu shot get the flu. That's because the strain of flu everyone gets was cooked up months before to be given out in flu shots, different strain of flu every year.
 

bobblehead

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Take a look at the CDC's ingredient list for popular vaccine's and then read the list of side effects and decide for yourself.


There is some really weird shit in them, mercury, formaldehyde, food colorings, aspartame, msg, fetal bovine serum, monkey cells, aborted fetus stem cells, etc..

I was also just reading not long ago in a medical journal that some vaccines are not as effective as once thought because of the rapid rate at which some diseases mutate.

I would never get a flu shot, because it seems half the people that get the flu shot get the flu. That's because the strain of flu everyone gets was cooked up months before to be given out in flu shots, different strain of flu every year.

People already willingly consume these chemicals on a daily basis. Alcohol converts into acetone and formaldehyde in the body. There are levels which your body can detoxify. When you have too much you reach toxicity. Most people don't have a good understanding of how the body works.

Being vaccinated is still better than not being vaccinated. Yes the flu virus can and does mutate and the vaccination is based on last year's viruses... Our bodies mutate all the time as well, and you'll have a faster immune response with the antibodies present for the original virus.

I forgot to mention if you have young children at home, you should also get vaccinated. :)
 

Cannavore

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I never get sick so there's no need to vaccinate myself with a virus I never get in the first place.
 

MIway

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Without reading the article... I'll say the people who feel that vaccinations are bad or just plain ugly are fools.

Diseases that used to kill people in the thousands or even hundreds of thousands have been eliminated, or nearly eliminated.

The people most likely to die from contracting the flu are the very young and elderly... But even as a young healthy person who can fight the virus, you are a carrier and you can pass the virus to the more vulnerable populations.

So please, if you're elderly or you go outside your house and are near infants and the elderly... Get vaccinated!


yeah, but you r in the process of being indoctrinated... and i dont necessarily mean that in a bad way, just that you are being educated from a certain perspective, one that has a whole host of assumptions.

medicine today, just as any industry, is fundamentally 'for profit'... at the expense of any altruistic considerations.

everybody, every organization, has a motivation. fda, epa, ama... they all serve a master.
 

trichrider

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i've heard most of my 60 years that mercury is a POISON.

heard it from my mom, from doctors, even from govt. (before you could no longer trust them).

last few years been hearing about the dangers of aluminum too.

if vacinations are for your health, why would they poison them?
 

HUGE

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Without reading the article... I'll say that people who feel that vaccinations are bad or just plain ugly are fools.

Diseases that used to kill people in the thousands or even hundreds of thousands have been eliminated, or nearly eliminated.

The people most likely to die from contracting the flu are the very young and elderly... But even as a young healthy person who can fight the virus, you are a carrier and you can pass the virus to the more vulnerable populations.

So please, if you're elderly or you go outside your house and are near infants and the elderly... Get vaccinated!

The better question I think is when to vaccinate. The cdc sayswait untoll 2 months for the blod brain barrier to close. I will be waiting 2 years on my kids.
% chance of death from pertussis .000007
% chance of seizure, brain swelling, going limp, fever of 105 from vaccine .0006-1%
 
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norcal_sourD

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I'll get the flu shot ALL day. Medicine is a numbers game really. Odds are SOMEONE is gunna get SOMETHING from every modern vaccination, medication, etc. I'd mUCH rather get the shot then get sick from my kiddos, then give it back to them, spread it to their schoolmates, thruout the community etc. I ALSO keep my kids home/stay home if or when illness pops up. And it's a rare day when we are sick! We don't eat a special diet, take a bunch of supplements, fuck that. BTW as far as Alzheimer's goes, aluminum in Deodorant was linked to Alzheimer's so should I switch to the lil hippy crystal rock things to keep my ass from stankin? Patchouli? :puke::puke: No offense to those who like it but again, F that. There's risk in stepping outside our doors everyday in this world. And I'll be damned if I'm gunna let every story perpetuated in the media AD NAUSEUM determine my path. Not trying to come off like an elitist or snob, just my :2cents:...
 

BlueBlazer

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For over 20 years, I was required to get the flu vaccination. I'm one of the folks that gets full-on flu from the vaccination. Even though it was in my medical records, and I missed work every year on account of that vaccination, I still had to get it. Military regulations and all.
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Well, I'm not required to any more. I've been retired from the AF for 12 years and haven't had the flu once after having it for over 20 years in a row.

I'm not ever getting one again. Ever.
 

HUGE

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Also for what its worth my 94 year old grampa got a flue shot tjen died feom the flu 2 months later.

I was at the minute clinic and overheard an elderly couple. "Honey I told her how you got real sick from your flue shot last year and she said that's normal"

I saw a friends kid get the pertussis vaccine get a fever start shaking and constant cryning. Doctor said that's normal just give tuem some tylenoll.
 

Cannavore

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floralheart

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My grandmother got a flu shot less than 7 years ago, and she was sicker than she's ever been without it. She was sick ongoing for months and months, with flu like symptoms.

She coughed and coughed and then coughed some more, BUT AT LEAST SHE DIDN'T GET THE FLU! lol
 

trichrider

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msds for mercury...

Potential Acute Health Effects:
Very hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation. Hazardous in case of
skin contact (corrosive, permeator). Liquid or spray mist may produce tissue damage particularly on mucous membranes of
eyes, mouth and respiratory tract. Skin contact may produce burns. Inhalation of the spray mist may produce severe irritation
of respiratory tract, characterized by coughing, choking, or shortness of breath. Severe over-exposure can result in death.
Inflammation of the eye is characterized by redness, watering, and itching. Skin inflammation is characterized by itching,
scaling, reddening, or, occasionally, blistering.
Potential Chronic Health Effects:
Hazardous in case of skin contact (permeator). CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Classified A5 (Not suspected for human.) by
ACGIH. 3 (Not classifiable for human.) by IARC. MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not
available. DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not available. The substance may be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, brain, peripheral
nervous system, central nervous system (CNS). Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target
organs damage. Repeated or prolonged contact with spray mist may produce chronic eye irritation and severe skin irritation.

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Pure thimerosal was toxic at the low nanomolar level—an extremely low concentration, about 10,000 times less than the thimerosal concentration found in most vaccines. These results leave little doubt about thimerosal being the toxic agent in the vaccines. - Dr. J. Curtis Pendergrass


http://drsircus.com/medicine/vaccin...n.-ban-of-thimerosal-preservative-in-vaccines

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this article describes how mercury destroys the proteins that naturally protect cells.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza69.htm

Chronic mercury exposure is a threat to our health and makes us especially vulnerable to flu infections.

An interesting new edition to the connection between the flu, mercury and the destruction it does to proteins was just recently provide by U.S. researchers who have discovered antiviral proteins in cells that naturally fight off influenza infections.


They said a family of genes acts as cell sentries that guard cells from an invading influenza virus.
“If you get rid of it (the protein), the virus can replicate 5 to 10 times faster. What that means is your cells have a mechanism that can block 80 to 90 percent of the virus that gets in,” said Dr. Stephen Elledge of Harvard Medical School and a Howard Hughes Investigator at Brigham & Women’s Hospital.



The researchers showed that if they make the cell overproduce the protein, they become more resistant to the flu.
“If you crank it up, it really shuts down the flu,” he said.

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you tell me...

 
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