Using Silicon?
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Terpyterps
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Actually MSA works very well preventing PM and you could use that as a foliar spray. There is quite a bit good reports from MSA preventing PM and against other issues too. Never had problems indoors with PM and always been using some form of silica for my plants, issues usually have been in outdoor grows and I never have had issues with it if there have been MSA in the nutrient regimen. It has plenty other benefits too and it’s very beneficial nowadays due to the LED lights, because they can tolerate higher PAR and other environmental issues. Highly recommend to use it for plants.
Yakon
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Silica:
Silica, or biosilicate, is a mineral that provides specific benefits to plants, including reinforcing cell walls, increasing resistance to heat, drought, and attacks from pests and diseases. Advanced Nutrients Silica is designed to provide a concentrated source of biosilicate to improve plant structure, enhance resistance, and promote healthier growth.
(this is just an example)
I have been using Silicon every 1 week using 0.1ML -> 0.15ML(max) per liter of water.
I strongly suggest do not mix Silicon with other nuts in your water solution.
Be sure to have a good ammount Calcium and Aminoacid in your soil/coco to help boost cell wall thinkness with the silicon.
this will decrease the chanse of disease breakin the cell wall and infectin your plant.
keep in mind i'm not an expert and I don't have any certification
Silica, or biosilicate, is a mineral that provides specific benefits to plants, including reinforcing cell walls, increasing resistance to heat, drought, and attacks from pests and diseases. Advanced Nutrients Silica is designed to provide a concentrated source of biosilicate to improve plant structure, enhance resistance, and promote healthier growth.
(this is just an example)
I have been using Silicon every 1 week using 0.1ML -> 0.15ML(max) per liter of water.
I strongly suggest do not mix Silicon with other nuts in your water solution.
Be sure to have a good ammount Calcium and Aminoacid in your soil/coco to help boost cell wall thinkness with the silicon.
this will decrease the chanse of disease breakin the cell wall and infectin your plant.
keep in mind i'm not an expert and I don't have any certification
Heres a scholarly article on silica.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7345352/
At times i read many of articles or listen to podcasts when driving, or watch specific science related videos with hopefully knowledgeable growers , breeders , and scientists alike.
At some point i heard or saw someone speaking about silica. What they had mentioned is that silica can be absorbed and deposited in place of carbon when carbon sources are low. Part of the many building blocks of life, carbon & silica, along with amino acids
The above article explains better then i ever could
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7345352/
At times i read many of articles or listen to podcasts when driving, or watch specific science related videos with hopefully knowledgeable growers , breeders , and scientists alike.
At some point i heard or saw someone speaking about silica. What they had mentioned is that silica can be absorbed and deposited in place of carbon when carbon sources are low. Part of the many building blocks of life, carbon & silica, along with amino acids
The above article explains better then i ever could
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Terpyterps
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Also heavy listener of growing podcasts and it has brought up so much valuable information on growing. It is fun to listen and learn from actual scientists and breeders and so forth. Much better and trustworthy than most of the Bro scientists I met and keep meeting. Forum is more about the community rather than about the not so trusty information. Problem is that there is still people who are sure of flat earth and what not and they are so sure that they “got it” but it is rather overconfident people who actually are not open for debate or discussion over the matters and it causes them to be super narrow minded and they are never in the receiving end but in the shouting end.
NormanGunston
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This is nonsense btw. Potassium silicate does not require "microbes or enzymes" to break it down into msa. It occurs in acidic solutions. Weird that you complain about bro-science purveyors whilst proceeding to post bro-science yourself.
Bottled MSA is largely marketing crap which enables sellers to charge an exhorbitant premium to misinformed consumers.
Ca++
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How do we make the acid form then?
I was told it's good for mites. That the tiny coating a spray leaves, stops them biting through. Damaging them as they try.
It did seem unlikely, but they were naming the mouth parts correctly, which added just that little bit of realism to the claim.
Lets pretend I didn't even repeat that, and stick it converting other forms into more immediate ones.
Edit: Oh here we go https://scienceinhydroponics.com/20...bilized-ortho-silicic-acid-with-3-inputs.html
Only stable for a month though. There is a forum thread about it I didn't look over. Perhaps there they talk of extending this. I know some comes with alcohol, which might be for shelf life.
I have tried potsil and it became a source of pH up, just to use it up. I have also tried the acid from a UK supplier, and it clouded my tank, which I found undesirable. I saw no ill effect though, and once it had got near my pebbles, it was gone from the tank. Presumably stuck like glue.
I was told it's good for mites. That the tiny coating a spray leaves, stops them biting through. Damaging them as they try.
It did seem unlikely, but they were naming the mouth parts correctly, which added just that little bit of realism to the claim.
Lets pretend I didn't even repeat that, and stick it converting other forms into more immediate ones.
Edit: Oh here we go https://scienceinhydroponics.com/20...bilized-ortho-silicic-acid-with-3-inputs.html
Only stable for a month though. There is a forum thread about it I didn't look over. Perhaps there they talk of extending this. I know some comes with alcohol, which might be for shelf life.
I have tried potsil and it became a source of pH up, just to use it up. I have also tried the acid from a UK supplier, and it clouded my tank, which I found undesirable. I saw no ill effect though, and once it had got near my pebbles, it was gone from the tank. Presumably stuck like glue.
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