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Unclefishstick's Guide to Home Bicycle Repair

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unclefishstick

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me,what i would do is,assuming those are 6 inch and those two ducts go straight outside is this..
use the duct above the door for hood ventilation,stick a carbon filter and 6 inch fan at the window end of the room and blow through your hood and out.one straight line...
then i would use one of the window ducts as an intake with a 6 inch fan on a thermostat and run a length of flex duct up high to the other end of the room.keep it high so the cold air has a chance to mix with the hottest air in the room.
then put another carbon filter and 6 inch fan down low at the window end so you have your fresh air coming in one side of the room and being drawn out high and low at the other end,with at least two oscillating fans pointed up,again,one high,one low...
then even when its cold out with two exhaust fans going you should still get plenty of passive air flow in..
 
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:tiphat: I just bought a roll of reflectix for down under,the add said 7 layers, each layer of foil is bonded to tough layer of polyethylene for strength ,two inner layers of bubble pack resists heat, reflects 97%. dan or unk did you use special nails for putting up?
 

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I'm going bike riding along a really big bridge tomorrow.
Beautiful weather os expected in the mid 70 to 80 :-D

I know my butts going to hurt cause I haven't been out in a few months.

This should be fun!!

Have a very nice weekend everyone.
 

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gonna try and get out for a little ride myself,need to scout out some camping spots...

mornin folks,chilly here this morn,down in the 40's tomorrow morning...
 

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Morning guys :coffee:

No noyd .... just staples & flex tape :)

Unc . I have 2 6" round hepa filters going in the 2 intake tubes . was going to use them both for intake . one has to feed the tube coming out the wall at the door end cuz thats the intake for the 4 x 4 room . but am going to put a T there so it feeds the big room too & then the other tube is going to the other side of the room . so i had intake tubes on both sides . you think one of them should be up in the ceiling ??? hmmmmm hadn't thought about that . but yeah both 6" vents at the window are for fresh air . 2 oscilating fans ... already planned , one on each side of the room . i have a 12" & a 16" .


me,what i would do is,assuming those are 6 inch and those two ducts go straight outside is this..
use the duct above the door for hood ventilation,stick a carbon filter and 6 inch fan at the window end of the room and blow through your hood and out.one straight line...

thats the way all my vent runs have been done .... i can do that again no problem .


the second filter is just not an option right now .... till i get some cash . so the 24" filter will have to do right now . i was thinking about putting one of the window intakes on another 6" fan that shuts off when the lights are off so the cold air is only passive at lights off . the lighting vent system will be on a temp speed controller . so the fan slows down at lights off , but not completely cuz it has to scrub the air too .

Thanx Unc :)
 

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:tumbleweed: got a bit of wind happening again today,cold front moving through,almost time to start thinking about getting the plants inside...that is going to be a challenge...most of the houseplants have gotten huge over the summer...the angel wing begonia is like 7 feet tall and 4 times the mass it was before...my wandering jew,which started as a cutting is giant....going to need like 800 watts of lighting just to keep them all happy....
 

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my feeling is that one 6 inch fan isnt enough exhaust for that space,the classic formula is to have your exhaust clear the room in about 5 minutes or so but i think thats too slow...
my flower room is 12x8x7 or 672 cubic feet of air volume.im running two 6x24 inch carbon filters with 6 inch fans with a theoretical capacity to move about 700 cubic feet/minute and a 6 inch and 4 inch fan for intake that total about 480 cfm so i should be replacing my air every couple of minutes.even during the summer when its often in the high 80's in flower i almost never get any heat stress.
 

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now that what we want to see super nice DAN
I see u coming up that u suk list
im still at me sucks, but hopfuley im getting better?:tiphat:
 

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UNC what type of camping are you into?

My style favorite is backpacking camping. The thrill of hiking into the woods a few miles to leanto sites on the fringe of a lake or river. We places I would always go while growing up have shaped my expectations for camping these days.

Car camping is fun too, but I'm the reserved type and prefer to be miles away from civilization vs in a campground park with dozens of other people.

Good luck getting your room all finished up this weekend Dan's! That's interesting the way your running your vents, how do you program your fan to slow down as the lights off approaches? It looks like you have two ballasts bolted onto the wall. How many lights / watts are you designing for in this attic space?

Off to the hills with my guests. Catch y'all tonight!
BeL
 

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UNC what type of camping are you into?

My style favorite is backpacking camping. The thrill of hiking into the woods a few miles to leanto sites on the fringe of a lake or river. We places I would always go while growing up have shaped my expectations for camping these days.

Car camping is fun too, but I'm the reserved type and prefer to be miles away from civilization vs in a campground park with dozens of other people.

Good luck getting your room all finished up this weekend Dan's! That's interesting the way your running your vents, how do you program your fan to slow down as the lights off approaches? It looks like you have two ballasts bolted onto the wall. How many lights / watts are you designing for in this attic space?

Off to the hills with my guests. Catch y'all tonight!
BeL
over the past few years its mainly been car camping...i love hiking,but i hate backpacking...i far prefer to set up basecamp someplace and day hike from there,but now its going to be bicycle camping....but with the set up i have i wont be restricted to paved roads,pretty much any dirt road or 4 wheeler track i should be able to get the trailer down,and if im willing to do some hike-a-bike then theres a whole nother level of places i can get too....
cycling is just way easier on the body,pulling a load can be hard on the knees but no where near as bad as backpacking,plus i can take a load of gear that would crush your soul if you tried to backpack with it...i could pile 80-100 lbs of gear on and still not suffer too badly...
 

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my feeling is that one 6 inch fan isnt enough exhaust for that space,the classic formula is to have your exhaust clear the room in about 5 minutes or so but i think thats too slow...
Thats why i was thinking about seperating the lighting vent system from the scrubber vent system . the lights will use up alot of the CFM's from 1 6" fan . but if the lights & scrubber have their own 6" fans & ducting .... i can pull alot more through the filter .... dig it ??? or am i off on my thinking ???

like thius Unc .....


Good luck getting your room all finished up this weekend Dan's! That's interesting the way your running your vents, how do you program your fan to slow down as the lights off approaches? It looks like you have two ballasts bolted onto the wall. How many lights / watts are you designing for in this attic space?
3 600 watt digital ballasts, 3 6" block buster hoods , 3 3' x 3' trays ... 1 light over each tray .
I have CAP temperature fan speed controllers that boost or reduce fan speeds according to the temps you set them at .

http://www.amazon.com/VSC-DNE-Day-Night-Speed-Controller/dp/B004D509DQ


.now that i've wasted most of the day @ the hydro shop & running the wife around ..... i gotta get to it !!! but not before some puffing !!! :smoke out:
 

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just make sure you have Neg Pressure in there brother dan:)


I just got home from the Dispensary. I had 25 samples of what they have for sale, I was like what is this shit every sample had a hash old smell with most turning brown... The guy that I was talking to told me he could smell my sample when I walked in :) He said I have to try some. I told him just make sure there's enough for them to sample. He kept mumbling I might get this lol... I left a sample of the Night terror as well..
 

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Thats why i was thinking about seperating the lighting vent system from the scrubber vent system . the lights will use up alot of the CFM's from 1 6" fan . but if the lights & scrubber have their own 6" fans & ducting .... i can pull alot more through the filter .... dig it ??? or am i off on my thinking ???

like thius Unc .....
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3 600 watt digital ballasts, 3 6" block buster hoods , 3 3' x 3' trays ... 1 light over each tray .
I have CAP temperature fan speed controllers that boost or reduce fan speeds according to the temps you set them at .

http://www.amazon.com/VSC-DNE-Day-Night-Speed-Controller/dp/B004D509DQ


.now that i've wasted most of the day @ the hydro shop & running the wife around ..... i gotta get to it !!! but not before some puffing !!! :smoke out:


well,you cant use outside air to cool the lamps when its cold out...too great a temp differential,you would end up cracking bulbs or your hoods will fill with condensation ...is the low duct on the door side coming from the veg room? if so then i would use that to cool the lamps and then out through one of the window vents,use the other window vent for your carbon filter and the other vent over the door for your fresh air intake.that way your fresh air will be getting pulled up from the house so already heated and full of free people and dog breath co2,you keep your ducting fairly straight and out of the way...the down side is the possibility of venting air that will fog up when it goes outside in winter...but stick a stove pipe on it and no one is likely to take notice of it..

just make sure you have Neg Pressure in there brother dan:)


I just got home from the Dispensary. I had 25 samples of what they have for sale, I was like what is this shit every sample had a hash old smell with most turning brown... The guy that I was talking to told me he could smell my sample when I walked in :) He said I have to try some. I told him just make sure there's enough for them to sample. He kept mumbling I might get this lol... I left a sample of the Night terror as well..

yeah,i have never once had any dispensary weed i was impressed with,not that i have all that frequent access to it,but it was all pretty...meh...i know the patients i deal with say mines 5 times better and half the cost...
 

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:dance013: done with step one of project "make that darn third coast guy pay for having a cooler room than me":biggrin:

i mean the future home of the medicated ladies club:bigeye::dancer:

gonna have to put the pics in the next post,but now the carpet is rolled up and the padding has been pulled up right to the 24 foot line,the room is 20 feet wide.i have kind of marked out the corners of the new rooms in black tape to give me an idea how to frame the walls out...
 

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well,you cant use outside air to cool the lamps when its cold out...too great a temp differential,you would end up cracking bulbs or your hoods will fill with condensation ...is the low duct on the door side coming from the veg room? if so then i would use that to cool the lamps and then out through one of the window vents,use the other window vent for your carbon filter and the other vent over the door for your fresh air intake.that way your fresh air will be getting pulled up from the house so already heated and full of free people and dog breath co2,you keep your ducting fairly straight and out of the way...the down side is the possibility of venting air that will fog up when it goes outside in winter...but stick a stove pipe on it and no one is likely to take notice of it..


Ok .... the lights will pull air from the room with a dust filter on the intake side of the fan & then blow the heat from the lights into my work room over the door .

the tube coming through the wall by the door ..... is my intake for the 4 x 4 veg room , so that has to be tied into one of the window intakes . i also put a T in the duct right where the hose ends . & i have a 6" duct fan on each end of that line ... one at the window & 1 at the wall where it goes through to the veg room . to try & push air to the veg room . the duct fans might not be enough & i'll have to use a 6" HO fan to get air in there .

nothing is being vented outside .... its all getting vented into my work room as a heat source . the window vents are for fresh air intake only . there is no heat source up here .... i need to use the lights in flower & veg to heat the rooms . lights off in the flower room ... i will have an oil fill radiator 1500 watt heater going .

i know its hard to give advice without knowing all the details Unc .... but i don't want this to turn out to be a novel either :)
 

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I made a little progress today ......







the T in the intake line to the 4 x 4 & you can see the cord for the duct booster thats at the wall blowing into the 4 x 4 . & 2 of my rez's .





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the left window intake also has a duct booster in it .. its a long 12' run from the window to the 4 x 4 wall so i put a booster at each end hoping to move the air .... but if its not good enough ... i'll put another 6" fan at the window & ditch the boosters .



the right side intake hose i'll leave passive for now . it should be fine like that ... time & dropping temps will let me know .



the fan mounted to blow through the lights .... i have a dust cover for the bottom side cuz its just pulling air from the room .



circulation fans mounted ....





.I did put the circulation fans directly over the openings on each intake line hoping to spread the air around a bit .... hoping !!
 
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The lights are all mounted & ducted .... i have a T at the vent over the door .... one side is for the lights & the other will come from the fan & filter & all will vent into my work room ..











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