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Un-usual leaf problem help!

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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sproutco said:
Here i picked this link. i am too stoned and slightly drunk to be your tutor. Read the micro level... Its in ppb not ppm's. That's parts per billion. :YaRight: So little would not make a plant grow using it alone. Don't post links you don't know how to read. :pointlaug

Maybe youre just a little too stoned and drunk to read in the first place [ wouldnt be the first time you got called out on your poor reading skills ] :chin:

Try reading it when you sober up and you'll see almost all the figures [ especially the important ones ] are in PPM.
 
Verite said:
Maybe youre just a little too stoned and drunk to read in the first place [ wouldnt be the first time you got called out on your poor reading skills ] :chin:

Try reading it when you sober up and you'll see almost all the figures [ especially the important ones ] are in PPM.


In all fuckin fairness ladies, I haven't seen anyone on here try to help

the thread starter diagnose his fuckin problem except sproutco.

Quit yer bitchin, give the man a suggestion and shut the hell up.

Some of you ladies act like fuckin kids!

Yeah, yeah, I'll be waiting to be flamed, bring it on :dueling: I personally

don't care if some jizz guzzler(who ever starts the flamin on me) wants to

start shit, so if yall feel froggy, JUMP.
 
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Brother_Monk

SensiMilla024 said:
In all fuckin fairness ladies, I haven't seen anyone on here try to help

the thread starter diagnose his fuckin problem except sproutco.

Quit yer bitchin, give the man a suggestion and shut the hell up.

Some of you ladies act like fuckin kids!

Yeah, yeah, I'll be waiting to be flamed, bring it on :dueling: I personally

don't care if some jizz guzzler(who ever starts the flamin on me) wants to

start shit, so if yall feel froggy, JUMP.


And your help is.......????
 
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Brother_Monk

pieceofmyheart said:
um yeah...what he said

You are a well respected member :bow: what's your suggestion...hmmmm??? Besides.....um yeah...what he said........with all due respect of course......
 
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stonewall

Active member
So theres plenty of evidence theres lots of trace elements in tap water

First off lets define trace elements.

"Micronutrients are essential elements needed for life in small quantities. They include microminerals and Vitamins.

Microminerals or trace elements include at least iron, cobalt, chromium, copper, iodine, manganese, selenium, zinc, and molybdenum.

There are about eight nutrients essential to plant growth and health that are only needed in very small quantities. These are manganese, boron, copper, iron, chlorine, cobalt, molybdenum, and zinc. Some consider sulfur a micronutrient, but it is listed here as a macronutrient. Though these are present in only small quantities, they are all necessary."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronutrient

Now lets search for the truth.


The first link to Torrance's analysis had CL2 listed in ppm and Cu ilisted in ppm, but it was less than 1 ppm it was .19 ppm, (does that count as ppm?).

So 2, arguably 1 trace mineral supplied in amounts measurable in ppm.

The leave 6 other trace elements, 3 were listed B, Mn,and Fe in ppb, the other 3 were not listed at all, i am lead to believe this means they were not even measurable in ppb.


So thats 2 ppm : 6 ppb SO4 was ppm if you want to count it




moving on to Denvers analysis


they didn't use ppm or ppb, they used mg/L or µg/L

i am not a chemist, but lets just say that 1 mg=1ppm, that makes 1µg/L =?


only Cl was in mg/L

B, Mn, Zn, Fe were in µg/L with the other 3 not listed, again I assume there was none.


so that 1 ppm : 7 ppb SO4 was real high, like 58.7 that must be like drinking fertilizer?


the bottled water analysis listed Cl as .10 ppm and Cu as .05 ppm

Again, can you count fractions of one ppm as ppm?



2 ppm? : 6 not even listed SO4 listed as .1 ppm




I'll be nice and give em to ya, but I think it is obvious you are a poser.



verong said:
Try reading it when you sober up and you'll see almost all the figures [ especially the important ones ] are in PPM.
 
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Wow, stonewall sounds like sproutco and even edits his post like sproutco. could it be ?? I think so.
 

mace_ecam

Active member
From experience i'd say that this would be a radiation burn.
You're away for a few days, the plants grow and stretch, and end up to close under the light...
ime in a good environment i had to adjust the reflector almost daily.
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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HazeToker said:
Wow, stonewall sounds like sproutco and even edits his post like sproutco. could it be ?? I think so.

How obvious can you get? Sproutco knows hes in coventry so now hes taken to his other poser handle to continue the bullshit.
 

CaptJamesTKirk

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Seems stonedwall never knew the word poser until I had a run in with his buddy - (see note) now he brandishes it like a shinny sword but as per usual. he seems to think a poser is one who makes him mad or posts doubt in his and his buddys methods.

ya see stonedwall - the word has no truth when you use it - and thus no power. Because you brandish it does not make it true any more than sprout posing as a grower

Note - do a search thru stonedwall's posts and see where he first used the word - then drop me PM - I'll forward ya some rep he and sprout left.

Kirk out.
 
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10k

burnt out og'er
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...then it's a duck.

btw Stonewall,
You need to lighten up and stop calling our members posers.
 

stonewall

Active member
10k said:
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...then it's a duck.

btw Stonewall,
You need to lighten up and stop calling our members posers.
very well....


Verite you are a disinformation broker, i will continue to call you out every chance I get.



I demand this defamation of my individuality be stopped imediatley! you can not offer any valid proof I am sproutco. Quit trolling me in this manner!
 

ItsGrowTime

gets some
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Actually, any mod with access to the vBulletin admin console can look at your IP (unless you anon proxy) and see if its the same IP that sproutco used before. I used to mod an unrelated board and we used it all the time to ban alternate usernames.
 
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stonewall said:
very well....


Verite you are a disinformation broker, i will continue to call you out every chance I get.



I demand this defamation of my individuality be stopped imediatley! you can not offer any valid proof I am sproutco. Quit trolling me in this manner!


Give it up already :moon: The proof is how you conduct your self on the board. If your not little sprout then why come after myself , kokua,verite and captjamestkirk? makes no sense to hold a grudge aganist us. We help people and we did the people on this board a favor by not letting you ruin peoples grows. SPROUTWALL you are the real troll :bat: you cant give it up!
 

hidingtree

Active member
yo Pimp A. did you get yer answer yet.... what the ? why r people pissin on yer thread . ??? dang i know some out of the ordinary thinking has brought about some unusual methods of ph adjustment and feeding of plants .... but who really ansered dudes question? maybe brother monk and mace ecam ... hope you found your answer .... what are the temps in that room .... ?? mynamestitch def a good place to start .... ever try foliar feeding .... not sure if your nute deficiency can be resolved this way . ?????? or maybe radiation burn ... how close are the light/s?
many bessings, hidingtree
 
hidingtree said:
yo Pimp A. did you get yer answer yet.... what the ? why r people pissin on yer thread . ??? dang i know some out of the ordinary thinking has brought about some unusual methods of ph adjustment and feeding of plants .... but who really ansered dudes question? maybe brother monk and mace ecam ... hope you found your answer .... what are the temps in that room .... ?? mynamestitch def a good place to start .... ever try foliar feeding .... not sure if your nute deficiency can be resolved this way . ?????? or maybe radiation burn ... how close are the light/s?
many bessings, hidingtree

Yes thanks! I ended up buying some copper fungicide and sprayed the plants as there was a slight leaf spot fungus infection so I had hoped that the copper from that would help but it didn't seem too, I think I left it too late to be honest so I just chopped it, 6 left ready in around 7 weeks, no problem though as I have 6 seedlings and 10 clones ready to fill up my new wardrobe and the empty space in my current flowering cabinet.

I have no idea why people are bitching here, i'm finding it quite funny actually.

I can't see it being radiation burn, they are under a 125w red envirolite, about 2" from the bulb, It's only affected this one plant, I should have taken another picture before I chopped it down but I never because it looked a bit rough, most of the leaves at the growing buds had turned brown but not crispy and growth had almost came to a halt.

Well my wardrobes set up and ready to be filled with clones and seedlings, i'll post a few pics in a few days time when they have hopefully perked up a bit.

Temps in the smaller flowering cab are between 23-26C at lights on and 20-21 at lights off, I think it definately was a copper def, it takes a hold quick! so if you see signs of this on your plants i'd suggest you take action as soon as you can!
 
Update.

Update.

Well as promised here's some pics of what's in my wardrobe just now, acutally a few days ago, the Hashberry have come on in leaps and bounds in the last few days but I never took any pictures due to no batterys!

The seedlings are around day 16 and the leaves from tip to tip are already at around 6 inches :yoinks:

The drobe is on 18/6, I was debating 20/4 but I thought that would suit sativa's more than indica's so 18/6 it is.
inside is
1 Aurora Indica mother
8 Aurora Indica clones
6 Hashberry seedlings

They are all in 3.5 litre pots just now, each pot is 6"x6", if it get's cramped in there I have 6x 6 litre pots for the hashberry and space in my chest of drawers which is on 12/12 constant for the two poorly clones and 5 others, my max amount of plants I can fit in the drobe is 15 but this run it will probably go down to 9 (6x 6litre and 3x 3.5 litre) the mother, come flowering time will be going back into the bedside cabinet mother/cloner unit :sasmokin:

I have 5 plants in my chest of drawers just now, 2 of which are two weeks behind the others and can fit 12 3.5 litre pots in there.



Exciting times ahead! it's a shame I put up a vertical beam on the inside of the drobe where the doors meet for light proofing, taking pictures of the whole unit especially as the light is low down is quite a chore!

We are really looking forward to a large (compared to before) stock of medi-weed.
 
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