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[SoufLondon]

as stated pal i didnt keep the cherry pie cut and as soon as i heard it was the hermie cut the descion was made not to keep... i didnt even pass her on because im that passionate about hermie plants..

Yup. Exactly why I stay away from all these stupid American hyped up hybrids. Basically they are all hermie prone because they all come from a very small gene pool, mainly og kush and chem type plants. I hate that stupid taste and the mong stone too. Its a shame because I know there are some amazing American cannabis plants/seed lines out there.

I wish we could see more tropical sativas in commercial grows but people don't like the flower time. The closest commercial available to what I want are haze hybrids, but even then many of them are a bit shite because there's too much indica in them making them stony and retarded.

I was always surprised by cookies popularity but I guess most people like that narcotic stone. I don't though, I want to be high, like a weak hit of acid. I like the way a good sativa makes your head feel light and colours pop out at you, I like the energy and the euphoria. I also enjoy the racy paranoia that something like a zamal will give you. Maybe I'm just a wierdo, sigh.

 

[englishrick]

I'm a haze freak too,, I'd even call myself a sativa wannabe,, but I do love the taste of sk1,, and I do love the taste of cookies,,, im not really fussed on high as its my second priority under flavor and smell,, 1 is taste and smell,, 2 is high,, 3 is bag appeal in my books

I love flavour and cookies has my sorta flavour atm,, i will be making a haze cross soon but till then it's got that same high and I still love it

Check out my samS seeds thread for some nice sats

 

[skotty]

I had the chem d cut but she wasnt hermie ive also got the chem91 cut which again isnt hermie

Og kush is an s1 pheno of chem91 and not sure if she is hermie
Chem#4 is a new offering but again im not aware 0f her being a hermie... so i dont know where the hermie trait came from.. im waiting for the ecsd cut so i dont know how the chem is responisible.. id say to much stressing females and rushing products out to consumers... i mean its not hard to stress a female plant to produce seeds

Ive got the core cut and ran the psycosis ive also been offered the a5 haze s5 haze along with somas own cut of amnesia haze and the dutch ssh and a nl#5 x haze

Ive got an amnesia lemons cut ready to be flipped but personally im also a cheese head.. bluez/liverz more than the exodus..

Amnesia lemons

 

[skotty]

Purple stardawg is also a chemd and chem#4 offering and she is bullet proof ... no hermies in her offerings either.. this is the new cheese round my ends... everybody wants the dawg.. gas or rocket fuel...

 

[SoufLondon]

Not tried the purple stardawg. Pretty stuff tho. Out of your impressive collection the psychosis was always one that I liked. Much more than exo cheese out of Luton. The Luton cut that was going around for about a decade seems to be gone, or at least no one is doing big commercial grows with it according to my circle of friends in London.

I wish more people would run the psycho, shes a solid plant, yields great, stinks up better than most new hyped strains Imo and the high is actually pretty decent compared to the 'normal' stardawg.

Even gg#4 I was a bit disappointed with. Its nice but I don't really like the chem taste on the exhale.

What is the amnesia lemons like? There used to be a really dark green, greasy lemon I got from a friend of a friend, it had small scraggy buds and didn't look fabulous but it was the absolute strongest lemon taste iv found. Supposedly it was an NL cut, but I don't know as I never was allowed to run her.


Ric, I saw you were after some of the 80s/90s Dutch hazes. I think you might have a hard time finding that old zing because lots of the breeding stock has been lost since then. I lived in Amsterdam 2016-17 and looked for these types of hazes but I never got anything quite like what I remember from the old days. The closest I can remember was at the grey area when they had 'silver bubble', I'm pretty sure it was an SSH pheno but it had a sweet incense flavour which made me all nostalgic for the old days. Most of the hazes were amnesia or amnesia crosses rebranded as something else or sometimes you could get JH or grinspoon, but yeh amsterdams haze scene aint what it used to be

 

[englishrick]

Not tried the purple stardawg. Pretty stuff tho. Out of your impressive collection the psychosis was always one that I liked. Much more than exo cheese out of Luton. The Luton cut that was going around for about a decade seems to be gone, or at least no one is doing big commercial grows with it according to my circle of friends in London.

I wish more people would run the psycho, shes a solid plant, yields great, stinks up better than most new hyped strains Imo and the high is actually pretty decent compared to the 'normal' stardawg.

Even gg#4 I was a bit disappointed with. Its nice but I don't really like the chem taste on the exhale.

What is the amnesia lemons like? There used to be a really dark green, greasy lemon I got from a friend of a friend, it had small scraggy buds and didn't look fabulous but it was the absolute strongest lemon taste iv found. Supposedly it was an NL cut, but I don't know as I never was allowed to run her.


Ric, I saw you were after some of the 80s/90s Dutch hazes. I think you might have a hard time finding that old zing because lots of the breeding stock has been lost since then. I lived in Amsterdam 2016-17 and looked for these types of hazes but I never got anything quite like what I remember from the old days. The closest I can remember was at the grey area when they had 'silver bubble', I'm pretty sure it was an SSH pheno but it had a sweet incense flavour which made me all nostalgic for the old days. Most of the hazes were amnesia or amnesia crosses rebranded as something else or sometimes you could get JH or grinspoon, but yeh amsterdams haze scene aint what it used to be

I lived in Amsterdam in 01 an it's true, the zing is what I'm looking for and it is a rare trait nowadays,, I'm still looking though this load of samS seeds I just germinated,, i also have a love potion x haze that I have some new hope in,,,

That zing is haze

 

[englishrick]

Just to be clear,, not one cannabis indervidual has ever been confirmed hermaphrodite,, inactive sex chromozones cause mono sex expression due to autosomal modulation,,

A reversal is a reversal,,,hormone modulation and morphological standpoints are not not a "hermi" or conformation of any hermaphrodite genetics,,

When breeding can correct sex chromozone activity,, actually creating a set of sex chromozones and forcing a dioceous line is another story all together

 

[skotty]

never been a haze fanataic but from what i recall the a5 c5 and s5 haze are what created most of the hazes in amstdam of the time your talking theses were nevilles breeding stock and all are still in circulation today..

i think there was a c5 male but thats gone.. so to my reckoning if you cross any of those hazes to chem91 or even ecsd or sfvog etc.etc your gonna get that zing... the core cut x chem91 or ecsd as long as you got the cuts the rest is all doable...

nl#5 always reminds me of the colour purple or those violet sweets you used to get..its pretty floral... its 100% in the exodus cheese that is the only nl# strain i can relate and can pick it out of most crosses shes been used in but i was always lead to beleive nl# was indica ...

if a female plant produces male appendages which has useable pollen its a hemraphrodite plant... :tiphat

 

[hazefreak]

Really gutted can't.post pics right now.

Im running.2 cookieox from rare dankness right about halfway thru very uniform in comparison but different smells.

 

[englishrick]

"If a female plant produces male appendages which has useable pollen its a hemraphrodite plant... :tiphat

^^^you said^^^

this is not how you validate and quantify hermaphrodite genetics,, if it's a dioceous species indervidual of mono expression tend to have inactive sex chromozones and not a lack there of

In the interest of accuracy I can only assume you are not looking at sex chromozones under true lab conditions when you quantify your hermaphrodite genetics,, i would tend to say its most certainly still dioceous,, unless you prove otherwise

 

[skotty]

"If a female plant produces male appendages which has useable pollen its a hemraphrodite plant... :tiphat

^^^you said^^^

this is not how you validate and quantify hermaphrodite genetics,, if it's a dioceous species indervidual of mono expression tend to have inactive sex chromozones and not a lack there of

In the interest of accuracy I can only assume you are not looking at sex chromozones under true lab conditions when you quantify your hermaphrodite genetics,, i would tend to say its most certainly still dioceous,, unless you prove otherwise

as stated in my comment... irrelivant of chromosones... its the fact the female plant shows male appendages... therefore making it a hermie

i personally dont have the time or the space for hermie plants and the heartbreak they can cause in a bloom room... the hermie trait is just a mechanism for the plant to reproduce in the event of no pollination from a true male and is only supposed to occur if stressed or at the end of the bloom cycle...

i have really strong views on feminized seeds and their repercutions on todays offerings... triggering the trait early is always gonna show up in the offspring at some point... the only real benefit of feminized seeds is profit from the fem seed business..

 

[skotty]

Heres some gsc x ogkb

Og kush breath x girl scout cookies

Clone only from cali but this was grown here..

Also goes by the name cement shoes..

 

[englishrick]

as stated in my comment... irrelivant of chromosones... its the fact the female plant shows male appendages... therefore making it a hermie

i personally dont have the time or the space for hermie plants and the heartbreak they can cause in a bloom room... the hermie trait is just a mechanism for the plant to reproduce in the event of no pollination from a true male and is only supposed to occur if stressed or at the end of the bloom cycle...

i have really strong views on feminized seeds and their repercutions on todays offerings... triggering the trait early is always gonna show up in the offspring at some point... the only real benefit of feminized seeds is profit from the fem seed business..

I understand that you feel this way,, that is your perogative

But in the interest of clarity to the readers out there,, if a female plant reverses and becomes a pollen donor,, it does not mean its quantifiable as hermaphrodite genetics,, that is done my analytical data on sex chromozones,,, i know this because sexual determination is my shit bro

 

[skotty]

The pollen will be xx not xy but that makes no difference its still produced from a male appendage... so yeah its a hermie

 

[englishrick]

Mutual exclusively is an issue, but fuk it,, That's not a clinical approach anyway ,,, it's cool,, that's your personal terminology,, I'm cool with that,, the books state you need to observe sex chromozones to quantify and identify dioceous or non dio species, inactive sex chromozones dont account for hermaphrodite genetics it's ONLY the plants with observable monoceous, trioceous sex chromozones that are deemed dioceous species or not by the today's science papers

But yeh,, i get what your saying and you are free to call it a hermi,, but nobody in the medical scene with agree unless you show sex chromozone data

 

[englishrick]

Selfing is a solid tool in the breeding box,, it's effectively for increecing inbreeding coefficients and even removing reversal traits (initiating sterility) is second to none,,

Remember,, bullet proof plants that won't reverse under hormone inhibitors are actually classed as sterile,, that's good for domestication but is a favourable trait in landrace lines,,, we actually need to selectively breed out this level of fertility,, good breeders know how to stabilise and and initiate homogenisation,, part of this process is engineered sterility via selective breeding from landrace dioceous genetics

 

[skotty]

you can turn the chromosones in any direction you want pal.... makes no difference .... if a female plant shows male appendages its classed as a man in a dress...

if your happy breeding/working with hermie plants thats your perogative but personally i prefer stable genetics... i also find that non hermie female plants are more power cause they put more effort into flowering and not changing sex and producing seeds.. and who is smoking seedy weed these days?

 

[Badfishy1]

Mutual exclusively is an issue, but fuk it,, That's not a clinical approach anyway ,,, it's cool,, that's your personal terminology,, I'm cool with that,, the books state you need to observe sex chromozones to quantify and identify dioceous or non dio species, inactive sex chromozones dont account for hermaphrodite genetics it's ONLY the plants with observable monoceous, trioceous sex chromozones that are deemed dioceous species or not by the today's science papers

But yeh,, i get what your saying and you are free to call it a hermi,, but nobody in the medical scene with agree unless you show sex chromozone data

Brah it’s 2018. All the gender benders will argue they can identify their plants as unicorns. Now stop with facts and science as that shit is so 1990’s

 

[englishrick]

I'm the chemotype of guy,, profiles and quantification,, iso accreditation and gc testing,,, that's what I breed for,,shit I can convey to people who need effective soloutions

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Nice pics lads, and some good info. I'm about to flower a SOG of Chem D and Chem #4 at the min...really can't wait to see how the 4 does, she's been in my wish list for a long time ha! Keep up the great work.