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[englishrick]

an you tell me not to speculate,,,,whats happening with you bro?

why didnt you try smoking the clone before you comented on it like that?,,,,,this time its ovious your opinion is wrong,,you need to try it!!,,you will soon know the score,,its that same blue we have had for years,,just try it before you slate it next!!,,,we all know the blue is easly available ,,its not sutch a big deal,,

did you spray some CS on that clone ?

ive veted it with countless people,,you would be giving the "ok" yourself now, if only you would have actualy smoked it,,

 

[cannaboy]

Howard is gonna be stoned tomorrow


I'm still not sure if it's gonna be the real howard!!

Or the Rhys Ifans Fake

 

[funkymonkey]

That clone started growing balls in veg soon after I received it, never had any CS or anything else that could have caused it anywhere near it unless SB Plant Invigorator not only kills mites but also fucks with the sex of plants. This is weeks before I heard word one about it being a fake. I have actually had the real deal in my possession before and this clearly is not it.

I don't know who's to blame or what exactly has gone on, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone because I just don't know what shenanigans may or may not have gone on but it's pretty obvious something untoward has happened and I know it happened before that cutting entered my garden as all I did was pot it out, give it love and attention and get it clean of the mites it carried.

I'm just venting my utter frustration and dismay at the total lack of honesty that seems to becoming all too prevalent nowadays in the UK scene, whoever is at the root of this particular travesty again general decency and honesty needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

Why the hell would I bother flowering out a cut that clearly isn't what I was told it was and is obviously hermaphroditic? It went in the bin along with the other cuttings because I've now adopted the policy of not touching anything that I'm not 100% sure of the authenticity of which limits the number of people I would accept a cutting from. Maybe the person who passed it to me was also mislead and is also a victim of someone's lies, maybe not. I'm beyond caring because I'm never going to take some people's words seriously again and at least I learnt my lesson before I had a crop ruined by fake hermie cuttings.

Yes I'm angry and that's because I can't believe the bare faced cheek of some people. Sorry if I offended anyone but I am taking a stand against this bollocks, in the war on drugs we are all supposed to be on the same side and it's clear that we have some rotten apples in the bunch. If this were a real war such people would be called fifth columnists, put up against the nearest wall and shot. Okay, that's a bit harsh, but a bit of public ridicule wouldn't be going too far imho. I suppose it is just possible that an innocent mistake was made but I wouldn't put money on it, I'd rather just wash my hands of the whole sorry affair and forget I ever had anything to do with this damn cutting and the thick layer of bullshit that surrounds it.

 

[englishrick]

why do you think i didnt want to get involved in the first place,,,i was never intrested in the hype of the blues,,"who cares" if you ask me,,,i was only ever intrested in how it smoked,,,,

that clone clearly is the same blue we have been buying for years,,,all you gota do is look at it and smoke it,,,you need to stop and think about what your sayin here funky, you are oviously wrong in this case,,you need to try it before you continue to saying this stuff,,,too many people know your wrong this time,,,you need to look at it yourself then maybe you will say,,"yeh ricks allways been a good guy",,but maybe not,,,

you know i know my weed funky, an you know i love you underneath it all,,,in this case there is no doubt its that same blues we have had for years,,,take a look at it propperly,,why would i lie,,i have nothing to gain from hype,, but if you want the truth as you say you do,,,ive just given it to you ,

imo i think you have accidently applyed something to that clone,,,

 

[funkymonkey]

I'm not aiming anything at you rick, I don't know what's gone on here, who has done what or who is to blame and to be honest i don't really care, all I know is that the cuts I got are not the same thing as the Blues I had before from a very reliable source and the fact it grew balls in veg proves it in my mind, also the structure of the plant, it's branching and overall look just aren't what I have seen before. It's bunk and I threw it out, I've never believed that a female cutting can spontaneously turn male or any other such supernatural phenomenon exist outside the minds of others.

Nothing has been applied to the clone, accidentally or not, I sprayed it twice 3 days apart with SBPI, the balls appeared a week later, I've used SBPI for years, sprayed literally hundreds of plants with it and never seen it cause male balls.

I'm not interested in speculating about what this plant was or what might have happened to it, it was bullshit and it got treated with short shrift the moment that was apparent.

Someone out there knows the truth about this cutting, i hope they have a conscience and decide to come clean but I'm not holding my breath, I've seen these scenarios play out before and they never interest me one bit, I just want to grow my own meds for my own personal needs and anything that gets in the way of that gets discarded by the wayside like this cutting did.

Anyways, I've said my piece, wasted my time on bullshit cuts and generally become highly reticent about the whole idea of growing any clone I didn't originally grow from seed myself. Time was when you could just pass cuts round among friends without any fakery and lies, clearly the times they are a changing and I'm an old-fashioned kind of guy so I'm just gonna opt out of the whole thing and stick to what I know and trust, that way I don't end up with a room full of dodgy cuttings that may be this or may be that or may seed your entire room.

 

[cannaboy]

What clone is being touted now???




If you put anything on the pk it will take away what makes pk good! Its perfect!! Mabe someoine can make it nana??? It might sound daft but if you were able to there is a chance of a more vigarous pheno in expression but to get 1 spot on or like for like isn't what we want,, its a joke and there will be no hetrosis I'd rather have 3 600's with pk in sinsemilla mode from clone to death!!

True the yield is not good but the flowers are tasty!!

As it seems to grow golf ball nuggs of pure reemness it won't do what I want and grow a huge main cola properly I find so I don't let it.. Best bet is lots of small plants doing just the top end.. I hate that its shit!! looking down to plants,,, little beasters on shitty steroids not propper ganja grown with soul, I always think that a 4' bush doing a 9 is better than a tent full of piss take 17grammers, high plant nos. but a hedge style isn't the answer either,, to many lil nugs Plant's don't finish to a standad high enough for me if grown small with a wide range of food!! LLP and Londinium are on (BIO-SENNA)!!! Not sure how good It is but londinium rated it to LLP.. (What's it Like??) so..

Stage 3

Growing a garden 3' tall with only 6" deep of thick bud. like a meter square not cubed,, I forgot that 1.. try to get each plant a 1' square thick,,

Can it be done???


I think if I pull my finger out I may get some serious pkidge like 12 in a tent topped at the 3/4 node and a month in a 20 ltr pot to get good legs top each tip out and lollypop give it time to recover and tip again and flip that day!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait!!!

Who hands out shit clones anyway??? That suspect blues if it is or isn't its a good stabel female proven in many a garden I just said the truth.. Its not like I germed 1000's of big buddah and killa and found a 7/10 pheno and gave it out to get clones I am not like that I gave it in good intentions,, I would like to have thought that I was getting clones from the fairy before I mentioned the blues,, I stressed it to fuck and only got nannas in lateflower!! and it never went blue and it is like neon green and not smelly compared to a good pheno of critical..

 

[englishrick]

if your truly intrested in truth then please trust what im saying,,,

that pic of yours looks like a mexi dom skunk,,an thats exactly how the blues and cheese both look in veg,,,dont you agree funky? ,,blues and cheese both look allmost identical in veg,,[exept the blues is a lil more chunky],,but they both have that mexi zigzag,,?,,dont you agree funky?

you and i both know,,,when a clone displays a "unique" trait,,,, sometimes we have no choice but to uses what we have inorder to preserve it,,,,forget the name for a min,,the name "blues" is silly anyways,,,the taste is worth growing it,,,[granted its probbly not asgood as the psycho, but no1 has ever said blues is the best of all the cheesy snips]

that blue willnot fully reverse without chemical application,,,lots of people have this clone and batterd it,,none have had the reaction you have had but then again none of them have been spraying reversing agents ither,,

you need to try it,,,its the blue,,truth is truth,,,you and i both know this blue is easly accessable in the NW,,,its the blues ive been buying for years,,,loads of people will tell you the same,,sooner or later i think you will retract what your sayin now,,all it takes is for you to try it,,

 

[funkymonkey]

You don't know it's the blues you been buying for years, you think it is, there's a difference.

I haven't sprayed it with anything but SBPI, I haven't got any reversing agents and most certainly haven't been spraying them around, I don't have any interest in fem seeds, too many negatives to be anywhere near worthwhile. If you really think that growing a cut that grows balls in veg is a good idea and is worthy of being preserved then all I can say is I will never agree with that viewpoint.

I'm not interested in anything either of you have to say anymore, it's like you're playing some silly game to have a laugh at my expense and I'm not playing.

I don't know who's to blame for what and I don't care, I just don't want any part of it, thank god I never passed this cut to anyone else, could have done a lot of damage to a few gardens.

Far as I'm concerned, the truth is simple, I was given a cut that turned out to be hermaphroditic and wasn't as advertised, I'll leave it to others to decide for themselves what they think about the games that are being played out, the whole thing has left a bad taste in a few mouths, even LLP put quotation marks around 'blues' in his mother list so it's not just me that smells the bullshit here, I'm not sure what nature the bullshit takes precisely but I know I don't want to smell it anymore.

One thing just occurred to me, if you're so sure this 'blues' has been treated with something then why is that? Were you messing around with hormone treatments at the time you passed it to me? You claimed to have had a female turn mysteriously into a male before and talked about making fems, maybe you need to turn your suspicions around 180 degrees and have a good hard think about what may have happened before I got it cos I know for a certain fact that there is no possibility of anything having happened to it after I got it. You're the one that keeps talking about fems and kung-fu and taking things to a new level, I'm not interested at all in any of that, I'm just the poor schmuck who got some cuts that turned out to be bunk.

Anyways, I'm putting you both on ignore to give me at least some level of separation from any games that may or may not be being played out because I am really getting the impression that you two are having a good chuckle at my expense and quite frankly, that's incredibly juvenile and pointless. Neither of you say much that is worth listening to anyways.

 

[DocLeaf]

RE: the Purple Kush cross,,,

...it's called Rainbow Kush [fritillary seed]

"i got my moves, and balance fine tuned. my roots have talent, show improving moves and challenge. breaking-news to review and haggle. is it right, wrong, true or babble? does it open your eyes?" [Razzle]

 

[AFGHANICA79]

Hi peeps gr8 thread! I was wondering if ne u guys could help me?. I received a clone off a friend it has 1-2 and 3 fingered leaves 3 maximum (must b indica). When i smoked it years ago they said it was heavy duty tutti frutti it stinks more than blueberry kinda like mazar kush /rocklock smell but 10x stronger. it has purple leaf stems. wWill put pics up asap oh and its a 7-8 weeker. Now from the description can any 1 relate it to a uk only cut?

 

[Elevator Man]

I've been saying here for over two years now that 'the blues' is too old to trace, and frankly, too average to worry about, and yet this still goes on.

For the last time (by me) - grow it if you like it, but drop it if you can - it's average, stoney dealer-weed, which grows well, stinks to high heaven and tastes nicely sweet, but it has no surprises whatsoever, and will result in very little useful activity after smoking it. There are so many better, and more traceable strains out there, that it's just not worth the crapshoot anymore. That's my 2p-worth, for what it's worth...

 

[cannaboy]

Heavy duty fruity I have smoked a few times its just another chronic or critical,,,

The 3 bl;ade leaves are stress from too much cloning and impropper ph it will go back to 5's & 7's with propper veg time!!

 

[lovelightpower]

now your about EM, just to reiterate my thanks from earlier;

big up elevator man, the HOG going around has been in my stable a while now, it has an amazing clear pure sativa high. lovely stuff. also the vanilluna is really good too, excellent taste and high, which he is right, it is more interesting than cheese or psycho.
thankyou to elevator man for bringing these to my attention.

 

[cannaboy]

What is HOG??

Anyone know where to get NEEM from??

Can I grow it in the uk under lamps???

Has anyone encountered a good G13 Haze??

 

[EddieShoestring]

not a hope in hell, Afganica-for a fuller explaination read the last 2 pages.
HOG? Some guys around here have been growing (badly) what they call HOG for a few years-their HOG is a heavy indica. Sleepy. A bit boring.

eddieS

 

[theherbalizor]

Unless HOG, in this case, stands for highland oaxacan gold?

Good G13 Haze. Nah, I have never smoked a G13 haze that I have enjoyed. I think the best place to find that lovely ghanni haze smoke is in the MNS afghan Haze.

Glad I have never smoked or grown the blues now. Seams to have more bad juju around it than some of the others.

 

[edgey]

Yeah that CheesexWR(its an f2 btw) is a strangely Sativa-esque compared to other Pheno's in the cross,A friend done it a few years back and I've suspected for a while it may have been stray pollen from elsewhere that produced that particular seed(Maybe a Pink Diesel x Caipirihuana that was in same run was a Shim donor at stage 2). Theres a few F2 pips left in the crew but about 30 have been grown out by various friends and only one other was like this amongst them...I could be wrong and its just a freak,funnier things have happened. But it doesn't taste or buzz like Cheese or WR much at all and the buzz is very perky until you overdo it...I sould have warned LLP that it can be a long-bloomer to get best results(I can get about 7-8oz yield from 5ft plants(3 plants under 850w of HPS/MH) but she is a fussy bitch).
I will try and get a more 'as expected' keeper from the line when I get a mo as some Pheno's were Massive Yielders in a 9 wk bloom and had a real Rhino Muskyness at the base with the Sweet Funky cheese top-note.
I actually really like to smoke this cut though personally(putting one in to bloom in a few weeks) but it takes looong to pack on weight.....Shes deffo not the cut to run if you wanted a Cheesey ting though.
I'd like to see a report for it as I could never quite put my finger on what it tastes like...I'd love to hear from others exp.
Keep it Green & Pleasant JBo ;]
This is her I believe \/

this is the last one i run came in at a dissapointing 105g

 

[Dr. D]

I had a nice G13haze super potent trippy high that lasted for hours. was way better than the Dutch Flowers Ghaze i had which was mediocre at best. The one i grew was made by JLP, wish id kept her now, tasted sorta like strawberry milkshake..

 

[englishrick]

are you saying you have never sprayed any reversing agents in your room?,,,,my veg room and revercing agents are in 2 different houses,,,can you say the same?,,,,mine have never been in the same room,,

no1 want to answer about the blues and cheeese being identical in veg?..

the reason i say its defo the blues is because ive got a friend whos been motheing this same blues for 15years an upuntill i got the clone inderpendantly and he tried the clone i had ,he would never sell me any,,nowadays i get it easy as pie,,,ive seen them both side by side and its impossible to tell the difference in late flower,,or in bud form,,,,,

its the blues,,all you gota do is try it

no doubts here,,,only good vibes

 

[cannaboy]

Any news on the neem I got told to import it from belgium or australia, Any thoughts,,

I will say that the blue clone grows similar to the cheese in veg but has more of a creeper vibe to it when your trimming you will see what I mean.. If you grow the branches long enough it will do amazing things scrogged or supported with a net everything near the same size!!