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U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

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Jericho Mile

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research it and I think you will come back with a different opinion.start with who the article writer is and his record.....

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Dude...don't know what to tell you. His writing is obviously slanted and designed to mock...christ anyone can do this shit. anyone. Mikey was/is a CIA spook. You see...I wrote Mikey (instead of Mike or Michael)...like I'm making him out to be a little child. A child with how many dogs in the fight? Another 'Merican Blogger...doing his part to create turmoil. Probably making a decent living doing it. Come on man!!!!!!!....no propaganda there..please. He is also totally disgruntled...which I imagine...helps him look reasonable to you.

On topic....ok...the government sucks and they are spying on us. Syria is the next step in creating the 3rd WW....then the anti christ will reveal himself...and people will still find a way to make themselves even more fearful. exactly how it works...feed the chickens fear..let them peck away at themselves...until life passes them by. Collect the fees

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gaiusmarius

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so it's not the world events causing the worry in your opinion?

it's not the gov creating fear to justify more killing and less freedom?

no, it is us promoting totally baseless fear to ourselves for no valid reason what so ever? is that the gist of your words JerichoMiles?

the world is perfect, but we will only be happy if we invent things like 911, nsa spying and now Syria to worry and bitch about?

we have wonderful government leaders that value human life and would never start wars on false pretenses and outright lies, or for the profit of corporations financing and lobbying them?

we have honorable men representing us that would never sell us out to the highest briber or the best blackmailer. we have superb alphabet agencies that would never start covert wars and coups on the other side of the planet, for the benefit of bankers and international oil and weapons giants.

we are so lucky that they never smuggle drugs to finance revolutions and wars, that they never support terrorists and cartels when it suits them. isn't it great?

all around nothing to see here, move along, war is peace.
 

bentom187

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Dude...don't know what to tell you. His writing is obviously slanted and designed to mock...christ anyone can do this shit. anyone. Mikey was/is a CIA spook. You see...I wrote Mikey (instead of Mike or Michael)...like I'm making him out to be a little child. A child with how many dogs in the fight? Another 'Merican Blogger...doing his part to create turmoil. Probably making a decent living doing it. Come on man!!!!!!!....no propaganda there..please. He is also totally disgruntled...which I imagine...helps him look reasonable to you.

On topic....ok...the government sucks and they are spying on us. Syria is the next step in creating the 3rd WW....then the anti christ will reveal himself...and people will still find a way to make themselves even more fearful. exactly how it works...feed the chickens fear..let them peck away at themselves...until life passes them by. Collect the fees

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He does not pull any punches. he is concerned for American lives. I hope He writes you back and you post the message it would be nice to read.
He as well as myself don't think foreign entanglements is worth a drop of blood,plus since world war two we have not gone to war lawfully by a declaration by congress.
I hear the war powers act being used as a argument, but laws are supposed to be made in pursuance of the constitution not in violation of it.

It's also completely bankrupting us and fast, not to mention all the troops who go out on 6+ tours in other countries and returning injured or not at all. Or they make it home and commit suicide because of the mental distress.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and we are making more enemy's around the globe for a few A holes who are born into privilege and don't mind exploiting people.

Fear ? you think that's all there is to this? I just try not to be a piss poor human being,and make excuses where there are none to explain this shit storm we have created for ourselves. also its to address real problems that I suppose all the 'mature" people have a handle on. Yet war and debt slavery continue unhindered.

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resinryder

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So now our all knowing leaders are seriously considering sending cruise missiles into Syria. How is this our/Americas problem? This is a middle east problem. Let them handle it. They don't want to handle it? Let it ride. Problem is, they, they being the surrounding middle eastern countries, don't care and accept genocide or the killing of unruly subjects as a means to maintaining power. The way it's always been. You can't force democracy on a people that expect to be dominated.
Guess the fall harvest after a Arab spring isn't as bountiful as predicted.
 

Storm Shadow

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Raytheon Stocks up shot up on the news of Tomahawk Cruise Missiles being used...each one cost $1.5 million

Russia is sending its Anti-Submarine Destroyer to Tartus.... I never thought in my lifetime...the game RISK would be played out live b4 my eyes
 

trichrider

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Muslims decry NYPD spying tactics

Muslim civic groups condemned the New York Police Department’s (NYPD) surveillance program of city mosques and Muslim community organizations, Wednesday, and called for a federal investigation into the force’s policies after a report by The Associated Press revealed that it had secretly designated mosques as terrorist organizations.

At a press conference held outside police headquarters, representatives from the groups compared the NYPD’s targeting of Muslims to the city’s controversial stop-and-frisk policy, a police tactic that a federal judge and the city council struck down earlier this month for unfairly targeting black and Hispanic men.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/8/28/new-york-muslimscondemnnypdspyingtactics.html
 

bentom187

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They are playing for keeps. I'm pretty sure this is going to end badly. I'm just not sure for who.

No Negotiation: China and Russia Walk Out of UN Security Council Meeting: “This Isn’t An Exercise”

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-new...rcise_08282013


earthonfire

As Jerome Corsi warned earlier today, “this is one of the most serious moments that we’ve ever faced in world history.”

Events are happening quickly and as it stands, the United States, Britain and other western allies are preparing a missile strike on Syria.

Russia has been the most critical opponent of the possibility of mid east military action, but now China has also stepped in.


Russia and China have stepped up their warnings against military intervention in Syria, with Moscow saying any such action would have “catastrophic consequences” for the region.

BBC via Zero Hedge

And moments ago the Interfax new (sic) agency announced that China and Russia have left the negotiating table in response to a proposal for Britain’s David Cameron on pending intervention in Syria.


UN-SECURITY/COUNCIL-RUSSIA-CHINA DUBAI. Aug 28 (Interfax)

Russian and Chinese representatives have left the UN Security Council session that discussed the draft resolution on Syria proposed by Great Britain.

We could be days away from the start of a conflict the likes of which the world has never seen before.

The United States and Britain are pushing forward with plans to execute a “brief and limited” strike on Syrian targets, but all signs suggest it will turn into much more than that. In January of 2012 the United States positioned 100,000 soldiers off the coast of Iran, and just last weekend it was reported that hundreds of US soldiers and intelligence assets had moved into Syria ahead of the attack.

In response, Syria has warned it will immediately target Israel with Russian supplied advanced weaponry. Syria’s closest ally in the region, Iran, has echoed the threat and warned that it, too, will turn its military capabilities on Israel.

This is a game changer. Any response by Israel against Arab nations would turn the entire middle east against the U.S. led coalition.

According to a report from the LA Times, that’s exactly what Israel intends to do.


“We are not part of the civil war in Syria, but if we identify any attempt whatsoever to harm us, we will respond with great force,” Netanyahu said after huddling for a second consecutive day with key Cabinet members to discuss the possible ramifications of a U.S. strike against Syria.

Armies are mobilizing, and that includes Russian troops, who are reportedly now being deployed in Syria to help Assad defend against “rebel forces,” which adds additional strength to the 160,000 Russian troops mobilized in the region earlier this summer. Furthermore, the Russian Navy deployed nearly its entire Pacific fleet to the Mediterranean in May.

Moreover, after a meeting with Saudi Arabia in which the Saudi head of intelligence directly threatened Vladimir Putin with terrorist attacks during the coming winter Olympic games in Russia if they didn’t let the U.S. move forward with their plans in Syria, President Putin has reportedly responded with the threat of a massive counter-strike against the Saudi Arabian monarchy.

This isn’t an exercise.

The writing is on the wall.

The militaries (sic) of the most powerful nations on Earth are preparing to engage.

If President Obama initiates a missile strike on Syria, however limited in scope, it could set the whole world ablaze.
 

Storm Shadow

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Unconfirmed: "Egypt closed the Suez Canal to U.S. ships bound for Syria"

Damn Egypt's Military is telling the U.S and UK and No Warships through the Suez Canal to attack Syria....

http://www.alnaharegypt.com/t~144828

Google Translation: The first thing Abdel Fattah al-Sisi Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, not to enter any US military chartered a tanker to the Suez Canal to hit Syria, stressing Egypt's commitment to joint defence agreement between Egypt and Syria.
Noting that Egypt wouldn't be a passage to attack any Arab country, adding Egypt will not repeat the mistakes of the war on Iraq.
 

Jericho Mile

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so it's not the world events causing the worry in your opinion?

it's not the gov creating fear to justify more killing and less freedom?

no, it is us promoting totally baseless fear to ourselves for no valid reason what so ever? is that the gist of your words JerichoMiles?

the world is perfect, but we will only be happy if we invent things like 911, nsa spying and now Syria to worry and bitch about?

we have wonderful government leaders that value human life and would never start wars on false pretenses and outright lies, or for the profit of corporations financing and lobbying them?

we have honorable men representing us that would never sell us out to the highest briber or the best blackmailer. we have superb alphabet agencies that would never start covert wars and coups on the other side of the planet, for the benefit of bankers and international oil and weapons giants.

we are so lucky that they never smuggle drugs to finance revolutions and wars, that they never support terrorists and cartels when it suits them. isn't it great?

all around nothing to see here, move along, war is peace.

They do all of that...always have always will. The world has been on the edge of destruction forever. Why worry? What will it solve? The people of the world will never unite...never see things or believe things the same way...it's just scripted so the masses can worry amongst themselves

See what you want G....but do you really think this thread or the passing of these (technically) unfounded insights is going to sway the world one degree off its axis?....or is it just good to dose up on all the negativity surrounding issues beyond your control?...so you believe you are in the know...and appalled

Give people exactly what they want...and they'll still find something to piss on about. Human nature...never happy for very long. Bet you money...there are peeps in this thread just aching for more war..more scandal...just like watching TV you guys are. The highs and lows of the drama...feeding now on Syria...or was it Beirut back in '83?..bombed Marines...fuck who cares...another scene being played out...30 yrs back...30 yrs from now...same same
 

Jericho Mile

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He does not pull any punches. he is concerned for American lives. I hope He writes you back and you post the message it would be nice to read.
He as well as myself don't think foreign entanglements is worth a drop of blood,plus since world war two we have not gone to war lawfully by a declaration by congress.
I hear the war powers act being used as a argument, but laws are supposed to be made in pursuance of the constitution not in violation of it.

It's also completely bankrupting us and fast, not to mention all the troops who go out on 6+ tours in other countries and returning injured or not at all. Or they make it home and commit suicide because of the mental distress.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and we are making more enemy's around the globe for a few A holes who are born into privilege and don't mind exploiting people.

Fear ? you think that's all there is to this? I just try not to be a piss poor human being,and make excuses where there are none to explain this shit storm we have created for ourselves. also its to address real problems that I suppose all the 'mature" people have a handle on. Yet war and debt slavery continue unhindered.

Judge Napolitano and Michael Scheuer discuss Ron Paul's non intervention
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Confession of an Economic Hitman petrodollar and war in the middle East
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I Hung My Head
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He's a book seller.....................$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...you bet this shit is all based on fear. War and slavery...name the time without their existence.
 

bentom187

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He's a book seller.....................$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...you bet this shit is all based on fear. War and slavery...name the time without their existence.

Should he give them away, considering the cost to write and publish them? He does comment on the internet for free, he's not forcing you to buy his books.
I think the only motive is to correct the status quo because its destructive.
 

Jericho Mile

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Should he give them away, considering the cost to write and publish them? He does comment on the internet for free, he's not forcing you to buy his books.
I think the only motive is to correct the status quo because its destructive.

I don't give a care if he makes a profit....I hope he does. He's fulfilling a need for some people...providing them a service...pay him. Nothing should be free.

His motives I can't say...but for sure...money is one of them. Maybe he is a good guy....and maybe he has reasons for manipulations...don't we all? You are putting your faith in him...not me...I'm faithless.

I figure he's a dirty motherfucker...promoting his platform for his own means. That sounds about right. I understand him to know his audience...and cater to their beliefs...infecting them with some truth doused in fear
 

bentom187

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I don't give a care if he makes a profit....I hope he does. He's fulfilling a need for some people...providing them a service...pay him. Nothing should be free.




LOL there is always room for charity,im just pointing out if money was his only goal he would not be giving the info he has away.

I'm faithless.

Actually just turning a blind eye would require a bit of faith.

I figure he's a dirty motherfucker...promoting his platform for his own means. That sounds about right. I understand him to know his audience...and cater to their beliefs...infecting them with some truth doused in fear

That dirty MF'er always going on about how we need peace in the world and not send our friends and family off to die in useless wars. how dare he.
If that's his agenda sign me up because I agree and not blindly. peace is a good idea.
 
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Jericho Mile

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well there you go. Not obtainable...but sure..it's a fine solution. Peace is a pretty word. I don't believe peeps really want peace....or as civilizations..have ever had it. Pipe dreaming children's story...kept going for the sake of having an argument and a goal. Dribble
 

bentom187

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well there you go. Not obtainable...but sure..it's a fine solution. Peace is a pretty word. I don't believe peeps really want peace....or as civilizations..have ever had it. Pipe dreaming children's story...kept going for the sake of having an argument and a goal. Dribble

no one saying there is going to be a perfect world after, its just the extent of the damage is very limited, as opposed to what we have now, mad men with triggers to nukes,who when they don't get their way will take everyone out.
central government is a failure all around.
we could start by eliminating that, and then raise the future generations to see that peaceful voluntary exchange of goods and money,is the way society evolves to its potential. in essence learn from our mistakes.
but you have to start somewhere, and that's spreading those ideas in the first place.

And it is obtainable,im not suggesting that you move but start where you are.

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back OT, i'm trying.

FBI interrogated man after comment about American “Police State” on Facebook
HUMBOLDT, AZ — A man says that within hours of making an impassioned post on Facebook, he was being interrogated by police and the FBI.

Blaine Cooper, 33, contacted policestateusa.com with a concerning story about how his sentiments posted on Facebook had drawn the attention of the federal government. He showed me the comment and told me that within 24-hours of posting it, he was being contacted by the police and FBI.

His colorful comment was in reference to what he believes is an “American Police State,” in which the power of the federal government is growing in a direction which may one day lead people to fight back

His colorful comment was in reference to what he believes is an “American Police State,” in which the power of the federal government is growing in a direction which may one day lead people to fight back.

Cooper, who is training to be a wild land fire fighter, said that on August 23, he was contacted by Officer Jason Kuafman of the Prescott Valley Police Department and was told that he needed to come to the police station for an interview with the FBI.

He complied with the request for an interview, which lasted 45 minutes with federal agents present. He was released after apparently being determined to not be a threat.

“They had every Facebook post I had ever made in a huge file, along with all my wife’s information, and parent’s information,” Cooper told policestateusa.com.

Cooper said that he was told that without “defusing the situation” by complying with the interview, his house might have been raided.

“The FBI made mention they came to question me so they didn’t have to kick in my door,” Cooper told policestateusa.com.
It should be pointed out that answering questions from federal agents is an extremely risky idea, especially without the presence of a lawyer. Supreme Court case BROGAN v. UNITED STATES affirmed that it is a federal crime to tell any lie, or misrepresent any fact, to a federal agent. Even an innocent person with good intentions could commit a federal crime by misspeaking during an interview.

But apparently the alternative to complying to an interview is getting raided by the FBI.

Still feeling threatened, Cooper made a YouTube video on Aug. 23, as a record to the public in case he “disappears.”

hope this doesn’t happen to anybody else,” he said.

The rapid response of the FBI could be a result of the federal government’s XKeyscore program, which gives them the ability to collect “nearly everything a user does on the internet.”

The irony of the situation is that Cooper’s concerns of the USA becoming a police state were actually validated by the fact that the federal government launched an investigation over his frustrated Facebook comment, showing up with detailed records on his family and their internet activity.
 

floralheart

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Muslims decry NYPD spying tactics

Muslim civic groups condemned the New York Police Department’s (NYPD) surveillance program of city mosques and Muslim community organizations, Wednesday, and called for a federal investigation into the force’s policies after a report by The Associated Press revealed that it had secretly designated mosques as terrorist organizations.

At a press conference held outside police headquarters, representatives from the groups compared the NYPD’s targeting of Muslims to the city’s controversial stop-and-frisk policy, a police tactic that a federal judge and the city council struck down earlier this month for unfairly targeting black and Hispanic men.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/8/28/new-york-muslimscondemnnypdspyingtactics.html


Now, if we could only get everyone to get off of their fat asses and decry.
 

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Putin is a Freemason, part of the secret socities. sorry to say but this whole event is a sham for world domination..

If you control both sides of the argument u always win the fight. Putin is just playin his part and just like the US will be glad to go into ww3 to finish the great work. This is just a show with devastating consequences.

This has been planned for a while. Anyone remember space odyssey? Who do we start ww3 with? o shit the russians... right.

Any world leader that is a mason or in a secret society (which is all of them) are part of this plan. They just have to fool/convince the mob(us) that it happened for some other reasons then it being planned and carried out because a one world government is rejected by 90% of the mob(population).


Plan has been in works for a long while now.

I think Shakespeare summed it up by saying, All the world's a stage.

Just be cryptic and start saying that to your friends to get your point across and avoid the gulags. lol
 
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