U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

[OLDproLg]

HUH?

Just wait till the repubs get back in office......
They will take the shirt off your back,an give it the rich!
The opposite of robinhood....
Lg

 

[bluntmassa]

come on dude I was paranoid already and I know they have at least one federal prison being built probably more I don't know about. now this shit sounds like their trying to get as many of us off the street as possible before they tear up the constitution cause they know the common criminals are going to be the biggest thorn in there side when they take what little freedom we have left.

 

[Backwoods Bud]

As a practical matter, law enforcement agents said they usually don't worry that SOD's involvement will be exposed in court. That's because most drug-trafficking defendants plead guilty before trial and therefore never request to see the evidence against them. If cases did go to trial, current and former agents said, charges were sometimes dropped to avoid the risk of exposing SOD involvement.

That's really fucked. Fuck a plea deal, a jury trial sounds like the best option.

 

[dagnabit]

HUH?

Just wait till the repubs get back in office......
They will take the shirt off your back,an give it the rich!
The opposite of robinhood....
Lg

you cant be serious?
you actually may be the only person left who still believes there are 2 parties...

 

[headband 707]

you cant be serious?
you actually may be the only person left who still believes there are 2 parties...

Welcome ,Welcome to your "New World Order" !! Agenda 21 waits for you.... lol headband 707

 

[bentom187]

NM ........sorry someone already covered it

 

[Dethclock]

The U.S. Government can suck my left nut until my right nut gets jealous."FUCK THE SYSTEM THEY CAN'T HAVE ME,I DON'T NEED SOCIETY!"

 

[headband 707]

Hummm well lets try to put it this way then... 1st free healthcare lol.. Again a real misconception of what actually happens here when you go to see a doc. This all will depend on how much cash you have in the end . More cash better care end of story.. The care is nothing to write home about anyways! OUR DOCTORS SUCK!
2nd: Traveling like I'm on vac instead of living in these places. Although for the most part I spend 3 to 6 months in most places I go. I get a pretty good idea of how it all works. So let me tell you this Canada ,USA,England watch the ppl way too much!!!Your own personal acceptance about being spied on is strange .. There is nothing good about our Gov's spying programs.. This is a guilty until proven innocent type of behaviour which I believe your own constitution fights lol.. Being okay about losing all your liberty is imvho NOT OKAY!

I believe Jessy Venture tried to sue the Feds over all the bullshit everyone goes through at the airports and the Feds' said he couldn't sue them because that wasn't their jurisdiction lol.. This is how justice works here in Canada and there in the USA lol...
Trust me when I tell you it feels great to travel to places that don't watch you 24/7 it amazes me how we have to accept a very corrupt Gov. I don't believe the hype that it's actually American's that want drones.. I think again that is pure bullshit I know it's the spying freaks that want that shit... voyeurism headband 707

Free health care? What?

Of course you have a better time traveling....you are most likely on vacation...and traveling to desirable locations. Might be different..if you were a citizen of that country. I love Mexico...feel pretty much...like I can do whatever I want there...but that's not the whole picture. I can do that...because I come from a wealthy country..and have money. The average Mexican citizen is not feeling that way.

If you are worried about cameras watching you...friend...welcome to the technology of the 21st century....it works both ways...frees and confines. I don't worry about being watched or listened to....not much you are going to do...to stop that. You want your cake...and eat it to

well don't we all...but that's not ever going to happen. Get over it...move on...accept that you have to give to get


I live on the california/mexico border...and it is sometimes...like a no fly zone. All your creepy agencies down here...snooping and pooping....just like the citizens of 'merica want. The land of drones...agents in the bushes...and all the evil propaganda. Is it ever going to go away? No. You can flip border patrol off...wave your dick at the cameras and helicopters...but that's about it.

Does it bum me out? No. I manage to cope without freaking out. The landscape alone..keeps things in perspective.

 

[bentom187]

the military has control over civil disturbances now.im guessing that means anything americans disagree with like being spied on and being murdered and having others spied on and murdered in their name.

U.S. Military ‘Power Grab’ Goes Into Effect
Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’

Why would the U.S. government need a mock U.S. town at Fort Chaffee, Arkansas?

August 4, 2013

Editors Note: I want to preface this article by giving a very special thanks to the brave individuals who obtained exclusive photographs of the facility, leaking the initial report to our agency.

FORT CHAFFEE, ARKANSAS — Carnis Village is what the Army National Guard calls it. A mock American town which even contains dummy citizens for domestic training purposes. Located on the grounds of the Fort Chaffee Maneuver Training Center, the massive training compound is likely a dead-ringer clue foreshadowing the grim path we are now traversing as a nation.

No longer are we free, “Big Brother” lurks around every corner, further pushing the populace into submission. In fact, it’s now widely accepted that cameras are everywhere, watching every facet of our lives, tracking us in real-time.

We also notice the massive police state presence that has been ramping up. Free humans are not even allowed to photograph or film in public anymore in some cases. What ever happened to the concept of photography or journalism? Avenues that are being blocked by the globalists now on all levels.

While likely all of this is a forced conditioning procedure implemented on the populace by the powers-that-be, we as free thinking individuals need to recognize the warning signs and dangers that are swiftly pulling us into an unstoppable downward spiral as a nation.

Now, upon publication of this exclusive Intellihub.com expose’, the U.S. Army has some explaining to do regarding this massive training facility which sits adjacent to the city of Forth Smith, alongside the Arkansas River. The facility is currently active and is in use by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), military and other domestic agencies.

While the military may be able to explain away this facility for use in overseas training, DHS and other domestic agencies simply can not.

FORT CHAFFEE, ARKANSAS: Carnas City, The mock American town appears to even have a church included for added detail. (Photo: Intellihub.com)
FORT CHAFFEE, ARKANSAS: Carnis City, The mock American town appears to even have a church included for added detail. (Photo: Intellihub.com)

The entire mock town has an eerie feeling to it.

Why would the U.S. government need such a facility?

The mock town details are astonishing to say the least, there is even a mock bus stop for various role-playing and urban warfare training scenarios.

FORT CHAFFEE, ARKANSAS: Carnas City, a mock bus stop sets an omonus overtone in the empty facility. (Photo: Intellihub.com)
FORT CHAFFEE, ARKANSAS: Carnis City, a mock bus stop sets an ominous overtone in the empty facility. (Photo: Intellihub.com)

The following statement was submitted by the individual who took the photographs;

“I am a former US soldier, and I have trained at Military Operations, Urban Terrain (MOUT) sites many times prior to visiting this facility at Ft. Chaffee, Arkansas.

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The sites are generally very generic in appearance, block buildings that cannot be identified to any specific location or culture, block buildings used for basic entry tactics and training to fight in urban locations anywhere world wide.

My first experience at a facility that looked as if it had been designed for a specific region was at Ft. Irwin, California, at the National Training Center. In that location they have a MOUT “City” which is set up to resemble a middle eastern location. Quite logical given the current war on terror, with its focus on the middle east.

However, the center at Ft. Chaffee seems eerily similar to any given US downtown location. There is a church, not a mosque. There is a bank that has a drive in ATM and even has the triangle of the local Arvest Bank. There are townhouses, a city hall, a two story high school with boys and girls restrooms and more.

The fine details of the facility make it quite obvious to myself that this site was set up for domestic warfare training proposes or for a westernized nation that shares a similar culture of architecture to that of America.

We like to say that we train as we fight. Given the current political climate developing in the United States, don’t be so quick to dismiss this as a conspiracy theory. Millions of dollars were spent developing this facility with a very specific concept in mind.”

It’s scary knowing that all of this is underway right here in America.

In fact, an Infowars.com article published back in May, details how the military now needs no presidential authorization to act in times of civil disturbance. An excerpt from the article written by Paul Joseph Watson reads, “A recent Department of Defense instruction alters the US code applying to the military’s involvement in domestic law enforcement by allowing US troops to quell “civil disturbances” domestically without any Presidential authorization, greasing the skids for a de facto military coup in America along with the wholesale abolition of Posse Comitatus.

The instruction, which was originally released in February yet has only come to light this week, outlines DoD policy regarding, “DoD support to Federal, State, tribal, and local civilian law enforcement agencies, including responses to civil disturbances within the United States.”

This is particularly disturbing to some as the military has seemingly now gone rogue.

Another article by Wsws.com points out how urban warfare drills are being conducted now in major cities such as Chicago and others reading, “In the late evening hours of July 22, several Blackhawk helicopters flew low over central areas of the city of Chicago without any lights, startling a number of residents who were not aware of the scheduled military helicopter training exercises.”

All of these drills, including “Active Shooter” drills which are now taking place now all over the country, are not in the best interest of the American public. In fact, in most cases people now fear their government, likely from scenarios such as the ones described here.

Bill Van Auken points out the fact that, “Such operations are unquestionably of central importance to the US military. Over the past decade, its primary mission, as evidenced in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been the invasion and occupation of relatively powerless countries and the subjugation of their resisting populations, often in house-to-house fighting in urban centers.

The Army operates a 1,000 acre Urban Training Center in south-central Indiana that boasts over 1,500 “training structures” designed to simulate houses, schools, hospitals and factories. The center’s web site states that it “can be tailored to replicate both foreign and domestic scenarios.”

What does flying Blackhawks low over Chicago apartment buildings or rolling armored military convoys through the streets of St. Louis accomplish that cannot be achieved through the sprawling training center’s simulations? Last year alone, there were at least seven such exercises, including in Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Tampa, St. Louis, Minneapolis and Creeds, Virginia.

The most obvious answer is that these exercises accustom troops to operating in US cities, while desensitizing the American people to the domestic deployment of US military might.

Preparations for such deployments are already far advanced. Over the past decade, under the pretext of prosecuting a “global war on terror,” Washington has enacted a raft of repressive legislation and created a vast new bureaucracy of state control under the Department of Homeland Security. Under the Obama administration, the White House has claimed the power to throw enemies of the state into indefinite military detention or even assassinate them on US soil by means of drone strikes, while radically expanding electronic spying on the American population.”

This also dovetails into the fact that the DHS has purchased millions of rounds of ammunition and paper targets depicting civilians, for use geared toward domestic training.

What will be the governments limit to the unlawful violation of our rights as free individuals and ongoing trend of increased draconian police state measures and protocols in America?

It’s time the public demands answers.

UN and Other Foreign Troops On American Soil - SHERIFF MACK
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Martial Law : Military Black Helicopter Drills decend over Miami, Florida
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Massive Army Drill in Texas Scares Residents
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[Weird]

The U.S. Government can suck my left nut until my right nut gets jealous."FUCK THE SYSTEM THEY CAN'T HAVE ME,I DON'T NEED SOCIETY!"

big rep for that one

IM a huge DRI fan

 

[Weird]

anyone see the article were the government was caught trying to cover up the fact that they were pushing information to the DEA to instigate investigations and how the agencies that used the info hid the fact in their investigations?

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-directs-agents-cover-program-used-investigate-091643729.html

 

[backyardbogfan]

Like I always say DEA are Cocksuckers

 

[bentom187]

Weird -anyone see the article were the government was caught trying to cover up the fact that they were pushing information to the DEA to instigate investigations and how the agencies that used the info hid the fact in their investigations?

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-u-di...091643729.html

yes sir. its funny/sort of sad, listening to the pundits try to convince us its not happening and they don't store or collect data.
maybe someone should point them in the direction of those fusion centers that are in the middle of the desert.

the builders getting whiney about being accomplices in violating the 4th amendment and not getting away with it, we are hurting their morale .

The NSA's New Spy Facilities are 7 Times Bigger Than the Pentagon

Davis acknowledges the controversy over his project has taken an emotional toll. “We’ve been pressured to disclose what’s been going in the Utah Data Center for quite a while independent of the current events,” he says. “My workforce and the workforce that I work with here [in Utah] take our jobs and our responsibility very, very seriously, and for somebody to say that we’re doing something untoward is a pretty big hit on the morale here.”

also here is another bill to try to stop them. (HR2399)

Amash leads challenge to NSA surveillance with LIBERT-E act

WASHINGTON, June 18, 2013 — Rep. Justin Amash is determined to bring an end to government surveillance without due process of law.

The Michigan Republican has sometimes had to walk a lonely road in the House of Representatives, excluded from prime appointments and treated with some hostility for challenging his party’s leadership. Yet with his latest bill he seems to have struck a chord as he has stepped forward to take the lead on bipartisan opposition to overly intrusive NSA surveillance efforts.


Amash is the Republican sponsor of the new LIBERT-E Act (HR2399) which is designed to limit the ability of government agencies to collect information on United States citizens who are not the subject of an active investigation. It limits powers granted in the USA PATRIOT Act and FISA and requires that information from investigations under those acts be made available to Congress and the public.

The bill is co-sponsored by Democrat John Conyers, also of Michigan, and has already attracted 32 co-sponsors in its first 24 hours. Those co-sponsors represent both political parties fairly evenly and include a lot of notable figures like recently reelected Representative Mark Sanford, R-S.C., and anti-establishment leaders like Paul Broun, R-Ga., and Walter Jones, R-N.C., as well as outspoken newcomers like Thomas Massie, R-Ky., and Ted Yoho, R-Fla.

In announcing the bill, Amash expressed concerns which are now widely held by the public, writing:

“We accept that free countries must engage in secret operations from time to time to protect their citizens. Free countries must not, however, operate under secret laws. Secret court opinions obscure the law. They prevent public debate on critical policy issues and they stop Congress from fulfilling its duty to enact sound laws and fix broken ones.”


Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes....e-nsa-surveillance-libert-e-ac/#ixzz2b84v9bny
Follow us: @wtcommunities on Twitter

 

[gaiusmarius]

i had to smile too at the idea of either reps or dems leadership doing anything what so ever to rid us of this mass spying. those fuggers will only move their asses once the masses are screaming at them to move their asses and get to work on legislating this crap out of existence. some of the new congressmen and senators might try and do something, but alone they don't have the clout. not unless people get more upset then they are now about the NSA world wide bulk spying and data collection network.

as far as i'm concerned i don't care if they stopped a 100 attacks using these methods, it still massive overkill and total invasion of privacy. is it worth living in a police state so we can stop a few attacks? even though most of the attacks could have been discovered by conventional means, but even if not, it's still not worth giving up freedom. we don't have to give up our freedom to drive cars, or take a bath. these are much more dangerous then terror. but somehow we have to give up being free because we are hated by al qaida for being free and they might at million to 1 odds end up hurting you. what a joke.

 

[bentom187]

Greenwald: Is U.S. Exaggerating Threat to Embassies to Silence Critics

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and fighting the police state this is worth the watch, this group has a good website to visit as well.
http://www.copblock.org/

Cop Blockers shut down police checkpoint
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[Weird]

i always felt that knowing the law would keep me safe but when the powers that be break it the benefits of knowing it become irrelevant

 

[BudToaster]

doing anything what so ever to rid us of this mass spying

this will never stop -- it's like trying to un-see something. once the system is in place, and the technology is proven, there is no way to turn it off.

but think of all the cops such spying can eliminate. computers are much cheaper to "police" the peeps than cops -- no pensions to fund. LOWER TAXES!!!

 

[mexcurandero420]

http://intellihub.com/2013/08/03/war-likely-imminent-survival-food-company-urgently-contacted-by-fema/

Keep on growing

 

[headband 707]

Interesting you say "is it worth living in a police state to stop a few attacks" Funny how they have NEVER STOPPED any attack lol.. They go on as usual .... If you look at these so-called attacks they really do look like they have been staged .. So again what exactly are you being protected from ,,your own Gov.? lol.. So twisted.. stay frosty headband 707

i had to smile too at the idea of either reps or dems leadership doing anything what so ever to rid us of this mass spying. those fuggers will only move their asses once the masses are screaming at them to move their asses and get to work on legislating this crap out of existence. some of the new congressmen and senators might try and do something, but alone they don't have the clout. not unless people get more upset then they are now about the NSA world wide bulk spying and data collection network.

as far as i'm concerned i don't care if they stopped a 100 attacks using these methods, it still massive overkill and total invasion of privacy. is it worth living in a police state so we can stop a few attacks? even though most of the attacks could have been discovered by conventional means, but even if not, it's still not worth giving up freedom. we don't have to give up our freedom to drive cars, or take a bath. these are much more dangerous then terror. but somehow we have to give up being free because we are hated by al qaida for being free and they might at million to 1 odds end up hurting you. what a joke.

 

[frito bandito]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but DAMN....

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/04/fbi-informant-crimes-report/2613305/

WASHINGTON — The FBI gave its informants permission to break the law at least 5,658 times in a single year, according to newly disclosed documents that show just how often the nation's top law enforcement agency enlists criminals to help it battle crime.

The U.S. Justice Department ordered the FBI to begin tracking crimes by its informants more than a decade ago, after the agency admitted that its agents had allowed Boston mobster James "Whitey" Bulger to operate a brutal crime ring in exchange for information about the Mafia. The FBI submits that tally to top Justice Department officials each year, but has never before made it public.

Agents authorized 15 crimes a day, on average, including everything from buying and selling illegal drugs to bribing government officials and plotting robberies. FBI officials have said in the past that permitting their informants — who are often criminals themselves — to break the law is an indispensable, if sometimes distasteful, part of investigating criminal organizations.

"It sounds like a lot, but you have to keep it in context," said Shawn Henry, who supervised criminal investigations for the FBI until he retired last year. "This is not done in a vacuum. It's not done randomly. It's not taken lightly."

USA TODAY obtained a copy of the FBI's 2011 report under the Freedom of Information Act. The report does not spell out what types of crimes its agents authorized, or how serious they were. It also did not include any information about crimes the bureau's sources were known to have committed without the government's permission.

Crimes authorized by the FBI almost certainly make up a tiny fraction of the total number of offenses committed by informants for local, state and federal agencies each year. The FBI was responsible for only about 10% of the criminal cases prosecuted in federal court in 2011, and federal prosecutions are, in turn, vastly outnumbered by criminal cases filed by state and local authorities, who often rely on their own networks of sources.

"The million-dollar question is: How much crime is the government tolerating from its informants?" said Alexandra Natapoff, a professor at Loyola Law School Los Angeles who has studied such issues. "I'm sure that if we really knew that number, we would all be shocked."

A spokeswoman for the FBI, Denise Ballew, declined to answer questions about the report, saying only that the circumstances in which its informants are allowed to break the law are "situational, tightly controlled," and subject to Justice Department policy. The FBI almost always keeps its informants' work secret. The agency said in a 2007 budget request that it has a network of about 15,000 confidential sources.

Justice Department rules put tight limits on when and how those informants can engage in what the agency calls "otherwise illegal activity." Agents are not allowed to authorize violent crimes under any circumstances; the most serious crimes must first be approved by federal prosecutors. Still, the department's Inspector General concluded in 2005 that the FBI routinely failed to follow many of those rules.

The rules require the FBI — but not other law enforcement agencies — to report the total number of crimes authorized by its agents each year. USA TODAY asked the FBI for all of the reports it had prepared since 2006, but FBI officials said they could locate only one, which they released after redacting nearly all of the details.

Other federal law enforcement agencies, including the ATF and the DEA, said last year that they cannot determine how often their informants are allowed to break the law.

"This is all being operated clandestinely. Congress doesn't even have the information," said Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., who sponsored a bill that would require federal agencies to notify lawmakers about the most serious crimes their informants commit. "I think there's a problem here, and we should have full disclosure to Congress."

Bulger, long a notorious Mob figure, is facing murder and racketeering charges in federal court in Boston. Prosecutors allege that he used his status as an FBI informant to steer police away from his own crime ring. Bulger has not disputed some of the charges against him, but his lawyers insist that he was not an informant; the former crime boss on Friday called the case "a sham."