U.K cheese brightside cut ?

[Crazy Chester]

.....what if the plant he received back as the skunk some time afterwards was infact a hybrid of the initial skunk he sent them with either the NL or SP? could also explain why after he got it back it started to stink more? could explain why we have cuts like the Exo/jah,window,brum ect...,they could be just the original pheno or indeed other ones made by those growers and passed out, and not the one he got back and therefore may explain why exodus were passed the super stinky lower yielding one(less shared) and most people knowing the jah or window for example as cheese(widely spread)...

Basically the actual guy who popped the seed,didnt keep her,gave her to other growers,got her back and she was different...and this is years before of the hill/cf got her and passed her to the exodus crew....no wonder its minefield lol

I have no idea. Subcool (rip) said the one from pistils was a lower yielded tho, but chalked it up to being sungrown vs indoor.

For bimblebrains: Good thinking - that's an interesting scenario. It could mean the ultra-stinky cut being called Brightsides in this thread is one of the hybrids and that cheesefarmer got that one back instead of the original, explaining why he thought it had evolved to have a stronger smell. Meanwhile, Pistils could have then given the original to Obsoul33t.

For shishkaboy: So you think Obsoul33t got his clone from pistils? Who did pistils get his clone from?

Personally - I think the differences between what Obsoul33t got and what is being called the Brightsides are two different cuts and what CSI got is probably a third. I also think the one we're calling Brightsides is the most notorious of all and that it is probably the "best" cheese cut - better than the original.

Hopefully this helps in unraveling the cheese mystery:

I didn't get my cut from Cloney. In fact, I actively check what Cloney offers on Strainly and he first started offering cheese cuts well after I had gotten mine. I also never gave mine to Cloney. His first listing was for "UK Cheese". Then, for a brief period, he offered two of them, one that he called Brightsides and another he called "nor-cal circulated cut". I don't know what either he - or anyone else in this thread means by "nor-cal circulated cut" - mine came to me by mistake and I was told it should not be traded/sold. That doesn't sound "circulated" to me. "Nor-cal circulated cut" was probably the nickname Cloney gave whatever cut he had - because he was circulating it, lol.

 

[shishkaboy]

For bimblebrains: Good thinking - that's an interesting scenario. It could mean the ultra-stinky cut being called Brightsides in this thread is one of the hybrids and that cheesefarmer got that one back instead of the original, explaining why he thought it had evolved to have a stronger smell. Meanwhile, Pistils could have then given the original to Obsoul33t.

For shishkaboy: So you think Obsoul33t got his clone from pistils? Who did pistils get his clone from?

Personally - I think the differences between what Obsoul33t got and what is being called the Brightsides are two different cuts and what CSI got is probably a third. I also think the one we're calling Brightsides is the most notorious of all and that it is probably the "best" cheese cut - better than the original.

Hopefully this helps in unraveling the cheese mystery:

I didn't get my cut from Cloney. In fact, I actively check what Cloney offers on Strainly and he first started offering cheese cuts well after I had gotten mine. I also never gave mine to Cloney. His first listing was for "UK Cheese". Then, for a brief period, he offered two of them, one that he called Brightsides and another he called "nor-cal circulated cut". I don't know what either he - or anyone else in this thread means by "nor-cal circulated cut" - mine came to me by mistake and I was told it should not be traded/sold. That doesn't sound "circulated" to me. "Nor-cal circulated cut" was probably the nickname Cloney gave whatever cut he had - because he was circulating it, lol.

Obsol33te got it from white trash redneck
Iirc
I don’t think Sub could get it from Pistils.

 

[Crazy Chester]

Obsol33te got it from white trash redneck

I don’t think Sub could get it from Pistils.

You're a fountain of knowledge, shishkaboy. I really appreciate you answering the numerous questions I've asked to get up to speed - thank you.

So - Subcool smoked the original cheese with Pistils when he went to the UK - then, he got a clone from Obsoul33t, that presumably he used to make his cheese cross strain seeds with.

Besides giving a clone to Obsoul33t - do you know anything about white trash redneck's connection to cheese?

 

[PetePrice]

For bimblebrains: Good thinking - that's an interesting scenario. It could mean the ultra-stinky cut being called Brightsides in this thread is one of the hybrids and that cheesefarmer got that one back instead of the original, explaining why he thought it had evolved to have a stronger smell. Meanwhile, Pistils could have then given the original to Obsoul33t.

For shishkaboy: So you think Obsoul33t got his clone from pistils? Who did pistils get his clone from?

Personally - I think the differences between what Obsoul33t got and what is being called the Brightsides are two different cuts and what CSI got is probably a third. I also think the one we're calling Brightsides is the most notorious of all and that it is probably the "best" cheese cut - better than the original.

Hopefully this helps in unraveling the cheese mystery:

I didn't get my cut from Cloney. In fact, I actively check what Cloney offers on Strainly and he first started offering cheese cuts well after I had gotten mine. I also never gave mine to Cloney. His first listing was for "UK Cheese". Then, for a brief period, he offered two of them, one that he called Brightsides and another he called "nor-cal circulated cut". I don't know what either he - or anyone else in this thread means by "nor-cal circulated cut" - mine came to me by mistake and I was told it should not be traded/sold. That doesn't sound "circulated" to me. "Nor-cal circulated cut" was probably the nickname Cloney gave whatever cut he had - because he was circulating it, lol.

No, the BS is the original - It was Mark aka Wingcommanderblue who thought it had mutated -

"cheese is one plant out of a pack of sensi seeds skunk no1 that my mate germed,he put all the plants that survived from seed in a flower border but only took clones from one....would have been interesting to see what the others were like but ...
the 'mutated' bit comes from wing commander blues article in WW tommy,he's a mate also ,the fella who nicknamed the plant 'cheese'
in his article he suggests that the plant has changed over generations of cloning ,something i believe is possible although i remember her as being pretty much the same minging stench gadget that she always was....who knows he might be right?
prawn have a look in 'my topics' under my user name..i have a few cheese grows in there amongst the soup recipes

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I think some gave out Pyscho + some Bx and that has confused things with S1's too.
That Sub one doesn't look right to me but would need more pics I reckon.

Or maybe the drift is real with this one.

 

[PetePrice]

You're a fountain of knowledge, shishkaboy. I really appreciate you answering the numerous questions I've asked to get up to speed - thank you.

So - Subcool smoked the original cheese with Pistils when he went to the UK - then, he got a clone from Obsoul33t, that presumably he used to make his cheese cross strain seeds with.

Besides giving a clone to Obsoul33t - do you know anything about white trash redneck's connection to cheese?

That is CSI, Nspecta

 

[Crazy Chester]

No, the BS is the original - It was Mark aka Wingcommanderblue who thought it had mutated -

"cheese is one plant out of a pack of sensi seeds skunk no1 that my mate germed,he put all the plants that survived from seed in a flower border but only took clones from one....would have been interesting to see what the others were like but ...
the 'mutated' bit comes from wing commander blues article in WW tommy,he's a mate also ,the fella who nicknamed the plant 'cheese'
in his article he suggests that the plant has changed over generations of cloning ,something i believe is possible although i remember her as being pretty much the same minging stench gadget that she always was....who knows he might be right?
prawn have a look in 'my topics' under my user name..i have a few cheese grows in there amongst the soup recipes

"

UK420

Uk420.com, the UKs oldest and favourite cannabis community

www.uk420.com

I think some gave out Pyscho + some Bx and that has confused things with S1's too.
That Sub one doesn't look right to me but would need more pics I reckon.

Or maybe the drift is real with this one.

Ok - sorry, I misread the wingcommander article - it was wingcommander rather than cheesefarmer who had received a clone back after the original clone was sent to some growers. When he grew it out he noticed it was different than the original one sent out to growers. As bimblebrains speculated in post #6269, perhaps it really was a different cut that came back - perhaps even one better than the original that was sent out?

I look at the first picture posted of cheese - the mythical one taken outdoors - and I think it looks more like the one I have and less like the Brightsides. Although, it could just be due to the one in that pic possibly being outdoor grown? So far, the one I have hasn't foxtailed outdoors beyond making buds that look like they could foxtail under the right conditions - but, I've only flowered her outdoors. The first pic of cheese doesn't have foxtails either - although some of the buds look like they could possibly foxtail indoors under HPS like has been prominent on the Brightsides cut.

Under bimblebrain's theory - quejo could have given the original out instead of the Brightsides that was blowing everyone's mind as "the cheese" - like the rascal he seemed to be. He may not have even had the Brightsides at the time. The other theory - that quejo gave out a cross that he or some other grower had worked - and the clone wingcommander got back was the original cheese, but the substantial changes he noted were just the natural development and evolution of the clone as it matured from seed. I'm on the fence with this one - because the first possibility is almost as rascally as the second.

 

[bimblebrains_1]

That is CSI, Nspecta

yes white trash redneck was nspecta's username on overgrow in believe...yer that pic from instagram of subby's cheese dont look right at all,too much vertical normal type growth,so am i getting this right then?....the one sub had is from obsoul33t>white trash red neck(csi)>queso and the same one that vision creator passed...so therefore cant be the original...

@PetePrice thanks for sharing those further comments about wingcommder and the flower border,never read that anywhere

 

[Crazy Chester]

yes white trash redneck was nspecta's username on overgrow in believe...yer that pic from instagram of subby's cheese dont look right at all,too much vertical normal type growth,so am i getting this right then?....the one sub had is from obsoul33t>white trash red neck(csi)>queso and the same one that vision creator passed...so therefore cant be the original...

@PetePrice thanks for sharing those further comments about wingcommder and the flower border,never read that anywhere

But, what about the original clone being sent out to growers and wingcommander getting a clone back that has significant differences? Isn't it possible the Brightsides was worked from the original by one of the other growers and turned out even better than the original and that was the one that became known as "the" cheese?

 

[bimblebrains_1]

Ok - sorry, I misread the wingcommander article - it was wingcommander rather than cheesefarmer who had received a clone back after the original clone was sent to some growers. When he grew it out he noticed it was different than the original one sent out to growers. As bimblebrains speculated in post #6269, perhaps it really was a different cut that came back - perhaps even one better than the original that was sent out?

I look at the first picture posted of cheese - the mythical one taken outdoors - and I think it looks more like the one I have and less like the Brightsides. Although, it could just be due to the one in that pic possibly being outdoor grown? So far, the one I have hasn't foxtailed outdoors beyond making buds that look like they could foxtail under the right conditions - but, I've only flowered her outdoors. The first pic of cheese doesn't have foxtails either - although some of the buds look like they could possibly foxtail indoors under HPS like has been prominent on the Brightsides cut.

Under bimblebrain's theory - quejo could have given the original out instead of the Brightsides that was blowing everyone's mind as "the cheese" - like the rascal he seemed to be. He may not have even had the Brightsides at the time. The other theory - that quejo gave out a cross that he or some other grower had worked - and the clone wingcommander got back was the original cheese, but the substantial changes he noted were just the natural development and evolution of the clone as it matured from seed. I'm on the fence with this one - because the first possibility is almost as rascally as the second.

we will never know if mix up's or different clones where involved in that initial few years after the seed pop and i suppose it matters little as we are looking for the brightside, but it sure does get ones mind racing when you read that the people who found her never actually kept her initially and got her back some while later,but then again i tend to overthink everything,too many psychedelics in my youth probably haha

 

[Crazy Chester]

we will never know if mix up's or different clones where involved in that initial few years after the seed pop and i suppose it matters little as we are looking for the brightside, but it sure does get ones mind racing when you read that the people who found her never actually kept her initially and got her back some while later,but then again i tend to overthink everything,too many psychedelics in my youth probably haha

I'm definitely having trouble reconciling the apparent differences in the look of the two cuts from pics. At some point, I'll get a proper flowering off and post some pics - but, that may not even end the mystery...Adding to the mystery is the comments that CSI hasn't produced very good seeds from their cut, yet Subcool apparently did make some good strains with what appears to be the same cut.

 

[bimblebrains_1]

But, what about the original clone being sent out to growers and wingcommander getting a clone back that has significant differences? Isn't it possible the Brightsides was worked from the original by one of the other growers and turned out even better than the original and that was the one that became known as "the" cheese?

not out of the realms of possibilty bro...all i know is if you dont hold something 100% of the time,you never actually know 100% that is same coming back.....we are all stoners and with one lapse of concentration or one piece of info not relayed then before know it....confusion

 

[Crazy Chester]

not out of the realms of possibilty bro...all i know is if you dont hold something 100% of the time,you never actually know 100% that is same coming back.....we are all stoners and with one lapse of concentration or one piece of info not relayed then before know it....confusion

Boy, oh boy, isn't that the truth!

 

[TheDarkStorm]

This.....

Im not sure why people are thinking the Brightside and the original are different......rick grew the the Brightside and had it coming out like cheesefarmers loads of times with all that silver, blown up twisting caylx look......cheesefarmer and brighside new each other well.....they got brighside to take the original cut out to homegrown fantasy in 2002....and then were going there to smoke it....quejo didn't even put out his picture of croped cheese till 2004......

By the way ive had cuttings onon the rare occasion that ive held for years and to begin with they were mediocre.... but have gone haywire all of a sudden after being fkd and come back out completely different and genetically ramped up to the max were the clone was now mad potent, stunk and also grew like a freak.....all while being in my possession throughout its entire life time....

I also wouldn't bank on all the clones quejo pased out as being the original clone....he could be shady when he wanted to be....ive know him to pass out his kachina (trainwreck x cheese ) as cheese and some cheese ibl he was trying to make....not someone who I would say is a confirmed point of verification.

 

[PetePrice]

I think the Shishkaboy, bimble and wizard one look very similar, wouldn't be surprised if they are it but just look slightly diff in diff enviros. I def thought the Pyscho and Cheese were related.
When I first saw the HHF pic outdoors I thought it was bollocks (photoshopped) and remember thinking it was the trainwreck cross Kachina (?) can't recall the name but it was something like that.

This is a pic from BH of the Exodus cut that Brightside spread -

 

[TheDarkStorm]

English ricks Brightside cheese....got that unique silver look and the crazy twisting out caylxes...

 

[TheDarkStorm]

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This looks like the real deal to me....looks different to that clone from the usa in the one picture claiming to be wizard or something......your picture of the snip in the cup looks to be the same as what English rick had....
English ricks Brightside in veg....

 

[TheDarkStorm]

This is a good post.

I read somewhere the psychosis was called “the purple” at first…

Kinda looks like the cheese that @Cloneman posted?

I think there were 2 cuts…
The one that wing commander blue posted
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And the one from cheese farmer?
I get confused with all the multiple names…
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Im sure all these pictures in the magazine you've put up are all cheese farmers pictures of his own grows of his cut.....all the pictures are the same cut, different grows at different weeks of bloom....same cut.

 

[bimblebrains_1]

This looks like the real deal to me....looks different to that clone from the usa in the one picture claiming to be wizard or something......your picture of the snip in the cup looks to be the same as what English rick had....
English ricks Brightside in veg....
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but i'm sure @Crazy Chester has said his cut is traceable back to obsoul33t which is the same as csi's (white trash redneck) and that is known to be a different plant to the brightside...

 

[bimblebrains_1]

I think the Shishkaboy, bimble and wizard one look very similar, wouldn't be surprised if they are it but just look slightly diff in diff enviros. I def thought the Pyscho and Cheese were related.
When I first saw the HHF pic outdoors I thought it was bollocks (photoshopped) and remember thinking it was the trainwreck cross Kachina (?) can't recall the name but it was something like that.

This is a pic from BH of the Exodus cut that Brightside spread -

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@PetePrice the plant shishkaboy is growing is the one i sent him,i'm not sure on it being the same plant as the wizard because @4kali has grown it and has told me its not the one he remembers with the lime green flowers (like pictured above)....

 

[PetePrice]

@PetePrice the plant shishkaboy is growing is the one i sent him,i'm not sure on it being the same plant as the wizard because @4kali has grown it and has told me its not the one he remembers with the lime green flowers (like pictured above)....

So @4kali has grown both yours and the Wizard next to each other in the same environment?