Two explosions go off at the Boston marathon... What...

[skullznroses]

Move over and let people who can make decisions rule while you watch and criticize them

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Let the killing continue and act like you think it's a bad thing when you really don't.

 

[skullznroses]

I only get pleasure out of killing when I do it to helpless animals!

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Plants die quietly.

 

[Nirvana_Papaya]

Plants die quietly.

There is some evidence that suggests they feel pain, they just lack the vocal cords to scream.

 

[skullznroses]

Danger

Danger

If you watch Pink Floyds The Wall you would know about plants..

 

[wisco61]

Mustard, in a very long line of absurd statements, this probably takes the cake. Did you know that the the Purple Heart medals still being awarded today were struck in preparation for the invasion of Japan? That is how high the anticipated losses were. How many lives, on both sides, do you think would have been the cost of not using the atomic bombs there?

That's not entirely true. They surrendered, at least in part, because the Russians declared war.

August 6th, we dropped one bomb, nothing. But why would it do anything? We had been firebombing Tokyo for how long? If destroying their capitol with a bunch of bombs didn't do it, why would destroying some random city with one big bomb do anything?

Yet it was more than callousness. The bomb - horrific as it was - was not as special as Americans have always imagined. In early March, several hundred B-29 Super Fortress bombers dropped incendiary bombs on downtown Tokyo. Some argue that more died in the resulting firestorm than at Hiroshima. People were boiled in the canals. The photos of charred Tokyo and charred Hiroshima are indistinguishable.

August 8th, Russia invades Manchuria and cause almost 1,000,000 Japanese soldier casualties. At this time the Japanese begin to prepare to surrender to the US because they knew the Russians would kill their Emperor and take more territory than the US.

Very late the next night, however, something happened that did change the plan. The Soviet Union declared war and launched a broad surprise attack on Japanese forces in Manchuria. In that instant, Japan’s strategy was ruined. Stalin would not be extracting concessions from the Americans. And the approaching Red Army brought new concerns: The military position was more dire, and it was hard to imagine occupying communists allowing Japan’s traditional imperial system to continue. Better to surrender to Washington than to Moscow.

August 9th, we dropped the second bomb, which was unneeded. They were actually in negotiations to already surrender when it was dropped, killing tens of thousands civilians needlessly.

By the morning of Aug. 9, the Japanese Supreme War Council was meeting to discuss the terms of surrender. (During the meeting, the second atomic bomb killed tens of thousands at Nagasaki.) On Aug. 15, the Japanese surrendered unconditionally.

August 15th, the surrender is official. Thank god we only had the 2 bombs and wouldn't be able to produce anymore for 6 months, we may have dropped a couple more.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2011/08/07/why_did_japan_surrender/?page=full

 

[igrowone]

there is an excellent book entitled Japan's Imperial Conspiracy, about 40 years old or so
had a very interesting analysis of Japan's motives and decisions in WW2
key points were Hirohito was very much in the loop in the early planning of the war
and that Japan knew she was beaten for quite some time, was waiting for the right time to negotiate a surrender, and the atomic bombs gave them that

 

[bentom187]

A Conversation with Tsuyoshi Hasegawa
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[Payaso]

Politics.

Conspiracy theories.

Oy vey.
Lots of people asked me to close this thread,
so time to shut this down as it is kinda way off topic now anyway...

PEACE is the answer!​