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Trying to move, rentees do employment verification?

dustin27

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So my girlfriend and I are trying to move out, and be rid of room-mates forever. We have few prospects, with it being winter and all. The most promising place we have found is an apartment that was listed by what sounded like a little old lady.

I just got off the phone with her. She told me about the two listings that were available, and complained to me a little about current renters who are late moving out. She said she spoke to my friend who called her earlier about me (douche room-mates callin people for me?!), asked about how long we have lived here currently, and said she does verify references and employment.

Well, I havent had a job in about 6 months or more. I am trying to get one but its slow going. We have money saved up to float us for a while. I have a large harvest in a week, and stuff ready to flower, but i'm closing this grow down after next week to move.

What are some ideas you guys have? The only one I have is I could say I do freelance work online, and work from a home computer?

The places were lookin at have enough rooms to grow in possibly, or I could scale down to small closets, I dont care, as long as I dont have room-mates anymore. We just need to find a place first, then worry about where to grow later.

Thanks guys.
 
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Encore

Hey Dustin27, It's perfectly normal for a renter to verify employment (wouldn't you?) I know i would at the very least.. The cover story about doing your own thing online sounds good, you might offer her a nice deposit plus first and last months rent to ease any apprehension she may have & if she is elderly she would surely appreciate any extra moneys.

The real question is why are your room mates contacting her? or maybe i misread your post, and she called while you weren't home and took the opportunity to ask questions about your character and such?

In any case good luck to you & yours..


Peace Out & Happy Holidays!!
 
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OrganicOzarks

I have been the "employer" of so many of my friends. With out me most of my friends would have been homeless, and jobless. I have been playing like my friends "employer" for 10 plus years. The funny thing is I would never hire any of them. Lazy fucks.
 
I rent out places, & have never asked employment verification, unless they were getting assistance from the county or city. All I asked for was some forms of ID, along with first & last rent w / security deposit. Tell her you are an independant contractor or self employed, and you got the cash. If that is not enough, then she's ass out. Cash is King, and showing employment is "not" a prerequesite for renting a place to live! Find a place where they don't ask too many questions. Hell, even my landlord knows I'm not working, but he doesn't give two shits, just as long as he gets his rent.
 

dustin27

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Encore- My roommates are an old friend and his girlfriend. He is okay in doses, but I cannot stand to live with him any longer, for many reasons. Last night we had a confrontation, and they think they are better than everyone else, so today they went around gathered information on apartments, like we couldnt do it ourselves.

So while they were out doing what they say is "trying to help" but what i see as "were better then you guys, get the fuck out" they called this old lady to ask about the listing they found in the newspaper, to see if it was still available. Thats how the old lady came into contact with my snobby roommates. I have no idea what he told her. She knows we have been living here for a year and a half; he must have told her that. She remembered my name too, mentioned earlier from him.

In any event, were supposed to drive by and look at the two locations she mentioned, and call her back. She spoke pretty fast and sounded pissed off; I was leaving a message on her machine when she picked up..I have no idea how many bedrooms or the prices for these places, she said it fast and I didn't want to aggravate her more.

OrganicOzarks- That is a brilliant idea. I could combine that with my idea of online freelance work possibly. Thank you.
 
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OrganicOzarks

Here is what I typically do. It works for getting a house, or a job. I will say that they are wharehouse manager, shipping receiving manager, sales manager, purchasing agent, office manager, etc... I will tell them that they have worked for me for 6 months up to 3 or 4 years( I have a friend who is an enternal hustler, everytime he gets out of jail or the pen I play his employer) I then say how much they fictisously make per month. I usually church it up. Then I say that business is slow, and we are having to make cut backs. It sucks real bad to have to lay a friend off, but I have to do what I have to do. That is what I say for a job. Now for a house I say how fucking great they are, and that my business would go under without them. It has worked ever single time. Like I said I have done this for years, and it always works.
 

HighDesertJoe

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I watch to much Judge Judy just get everything in writing and take a lot of pictures of where your moving from and moving to..Good Luck
 

BIG JT

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Pick up a bluetooth headset at walmart for 30 bucks and bring it with you to view the places and while you're viewing, give the landlord/shower the "one minute" finger 3/4 into the showing/. Pretend like it's a really important call from a client. Then when they get to the "what is it you do for work?" which they always do, tell them you're a consultant for a company where there is no way she/he can find out your employment status with them, ex. Johnson & Johnson. This method has worked for me flawlessly many times and most people are so hard up for the money they don't even check references. I think you're landlord hunting just as much as apartment hunting when looking for a place to grow and you need to be good at feeling people out. My 2 cents
 

dustin27

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Thanks for all the great advice guys. I dont think the consulting for a company would work for me. I'm only 21, on the small side for my age, and have dreadlocks. Something self employed would be my best bet, online.
 

dustin27

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I'll probably combine it all into: I'm unemployed but looking, have loans floating me, and do online work. She probably wouldnt inquire much more about it, aside from i havent been to college in a few years.
 

dustin27

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How would a person check or provide references if that person is a freelance online writer/blogger/photoshopper/anything...??
 

hiker

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Dustin, BigJT is right, if landlord seems nosey, or like they are going to be around alot, hightail it. Really, if your biggest concern is the grow, let the landlords attitude be important, not so much the house or apartment, also if you have first, last, and security in cash most landlords, especially now with times so tough, will overlook alot
 

dustin27

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Good point, thank you hiker and bigjt and everyone else. I plan on calling tomorrow and inquiring more about one of the two places she said were available. It looks like it might be a duplex, rather than the other listing she told me, which was a 6-plex. I dont know what that would be called. But I dont want to be running my vortex in an old ass building in an old ass town.
 

LazLo

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If you can get blank reporting 1099 forms, TYPE your own info on it. Make photo copies and present to potential landlords.

I was forced to pay for MY OWN credit report as part of my application for "membership" at a condo complex. Had a copy of the 1099 form I typed up myself and asked my employer to lie about the length of my employment with them. Even my "personal references" were contacted.

And yes.........I got the place and still live there!! It was and still is the most desirable location for all of my needs, wants and activities.

Never underestimate the elderly. Especially old gals. Old age and treachery defeats youth and guile. They didn't get old.....just wiser.
 

ddrew

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Looking for an Apt is like looking for a job, people judge you, you have to sell yourself, pay app fees, etc....
Bullshit
It doesn't have to be that way, flip the script
Put and ad on craigslist

"Looking to rent(your specs) for $XXXX a month"

You will get a ton of responses from people who are hurting for cash and very motivated to rent their property.
You look at a few, find the ones you like, and then start playing them off on each other, you say, I had an overwhelming response to my ad, and have seen a lot of nice places, I like yours, but the price is a bit high, based on what I've seen I would be willing to pay($XXX) a month.
Basically you are making these people compete with each other to secure you as a renter, no one does back ground searches when you approach it like this, they are all praying you will select them, and don't want to do anything to sour the deal.

So, place the ad, kick back, and let people compete for your business, instead of running around begging for someone to rent to you.
It will be like a dream, you will have tons of great places to chose from, and no bullshit when it comes time to picking one.

Last time around for me, I found a gorgeous house, in a great neighborhood, with an owner that lives in another state, and I talked them down $200 a month on what they were asking for rent originally.
You can't beat that.
 
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dustin27

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I've been thinking about the ad on craigslist. I had originallly thought those kinds of want ads go un-noticed. WE have been looking at craigslist, and contacting folks on there about house ads also. There is one reason I have my doubts about craigslist:

Last week I emailed a listing about a house ad, several actually. Only one person replied to all my emails. They said I was the only one to contact them since they put it back on the market, they had a young couple interested last week but lost contact, so we would get first shot at the property. In the original ad it said " call or view directly" but no address or number was listed. Then in the email, the guy said " I'd give you the address and let you swing by but my wife is against blindly advertising an empty house online". It sounded like a male was emailing me but the signing name and email name was a womans name, and the emailer provided a link to a free credit report, asking me to print out my free credit score, he said credit doesnt necessarily matter, they just want to see if there are evictions/landlord related judgements.

Well, the link opened a warning saying this site is a phishing site. I emailed him back the next day saying the link didnt work, and I dont really have a credit history ect, and asked why a link to a personal information tracking site was provided. And Its been several days and havent heard a thing back from them. It pisses me off. When I put all the fishy details together, I may have almost gotten scammed. And maybe that is why alot of these cheap, ALMOST TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, prices of house listings I havent heard replies from. They could be scams.
 

ddrew

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Lol, yes there are scams, I had a thread about one I ran into from my ad on craigslist, it was a guy in Nigeria that wanted me to send him a deposit then he would send me the keys, lol.
They're usually fairly obvious.
Right now a lot of people can't make there house payment, and are desperate to find a renter, put the ad up, you will see.

You have nothing to lose by trying.

Responsible couple looking to rent (whatever you're looking for, 3 Bdrm, fenced yard, etc..)
(Area you want to live in)
In the $xxx to $xxxx range
We have an excellent rental history, and are very low maintenance(we can fix little stuff ourselves)
 

crazybear

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Be very careful renting from old nosy people, they have lots of time on there hands & planning on growing even more reason! :plant grow::smoweed:
 
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