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Jericho Mile

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this is where (what ought to be) basic skills like critical reading come in handy
It more depends on what you are reading. And in your case what you want to believe. As that’s how you find your reading. Spoon fed to ya.

You’re no critical thinker. Practically an invalid
 

Cuddles

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Seems the same to me. It’s subjective I suppose.

I don’t follow media. A non participant all way round. I do work for the Federal Government….so not at all inexperienced in how it functions. Don’t believe all you are told or read. Or believe it all.
as a rule I don´t. But this I do. It´s the results of airheads play politics and end up with power.
Trump has no clue about economy (or how visias work) lol. It´s the wrong way to go about it. And arresting people who tryvel legally won´t stop illegal immigration -ever.

I really recommend keeping an eye on international news reports fromm time to time. It´s an eye opener ;)
 

Jericho Mile

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as a rule I don´t. But this I do. It´s the results of airheads play politics and end up with power.
Trump has no clue about economy (or how visias work) lol. It´s the wrong way to go about it. And arresting people who tryvel legally won´t stop illegal immigration -ever.

I really recommend keeping an eye on international news reports fromm time to time. It´s an eye opener ;)
Like I said…my wife is Swiss. I hear Europe from her. Same shit really. You’d be surprised how much American media they hear.

Nobody is attempting to stop illegal immigration. My post reflected that. I’ve lived on or around the Southern border most of my life. How about you?
 
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Cuddles

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Like I said…my wife is Swiss. I hear Europe. Same shit really. You’d be surprised how much American media they hear.

Nobody is attempting to stop illegal immigration. My post reflected that. I’ve lived on or around the Southern border most of my life. How about you?
other countries people want to get to . I´m not bothered really. But I can assure you that there have been no reports or cases about americans being arrested for coming on holiday over here.
 

Jericho Mile

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other countries people want to get to . I´m not bothered really. But I can assure you that there have been no reports or cases about americans being arrested for coming on holiday over here.
I’m not doubting this administration is toying with people. Why do you think they would do that? What’s the reasoning? Certainly there is a reason. Certainly there is a message. What is it? I don’t know.

My wife is not a citizen after all these years. She just flew back and forth from Tucson to San Francisco to get a special picture taken for her Swiss passport at the Swiss Consulate. Did it in one day. No problems. Green Card holder.

Same girl who came here in the 1990s and overstayed her visa she loved the States so much. She’ll fly home to Switzerland this summer for 3 weeks. I’ll inform you when she makes it back. 😂 Maybe they’ll throw her in a migrant detention center and then a cattle car. Seriously though…I doubt that she’ll have a problem. Hoopla

It’s like people are protesting Teslas. Funny stuff. My wife told me San Francisco was still full of them.
 
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HempKat

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I will say the vast majority didn’t give shit or have any thing t do with Q ,it just was not a thing my son ( who was there with me filled me in a bit about Q and pointed out a few . As far as believing is that like Santa Claus ? sure there is a relatively small fringe group called Q . What proof do you have that the majority of j6ers follow Q? . We are not gonna prove this either way just telling you my perspective and calling BS on the Q thing having much influence at j6th
I never said a majority of J6ers follow Q. I just questioned your view that hardly any of them did. Nor did I ever say the Q thing had much influence a J6. Frenkly I have no idea of what percentage of Trump supporters follow Q or how many that do follow him were at J6. I just know it was more then a handful. I know this based on things like the one guy with the buffalo headpiece calling himself the QAnon Shaman and that in videos shown that day on the news and over th years since then til now you can spot peopl in the crowd who referenced Q with what the sign said.. I'm not trying to convinc you of anything. I'm pretty sure you're well aware of the people who believe in Q and I'm willing to believe you yourself don't believe in Q. I just think that you're trying so hard to downplay it and minimize it because it makes everyone else look like a bunch of loonie toons.
 

HempKat

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😂 Nah man….I actually read all of it.

In all sincerity since I have returned to IC this is the only news I read. Before coming back nothing. I’m not on social media nor do I search the internet for news. Sure don’t watch it on TV.

My wife is on social media so she tells me some stuff…for example that the position I was going to take on the Forest in April got cut because of the budget thing. That was in local news though. And because she is Swiss and gets news from there…I hear about the wars etc. from the European perspective.

I don’t need to search these threads long for the general narratives. Some of these maniacs post them all day long. Every day. By being observant one can easily draw the pictures. It’s not tough at all. It’s like skim reading a book by picking up on the author’s style of prose. I’ve learned how to cut out the filler and find the message. Then of course I just have to sort out the emotionally influenced opinions and biases. There’s really only a handful of consistent posters…and they’re teamed up. It’s Coke or Pepsi most the time.

I’m not a negative person at all…and truly do not care who the president is or have any serious feelings about any of the issues that people on here are driving themselves crazy over. I do know what I see and hear where I live. Observations. I’ve always been boots on the ground. See it for myself. Attempt to be free of other’s opinions affecting me.

This is all entertainment for me. Getting jack asses wound up amuses me sometimes. And it’s what keeps these threads going. Without drama this thread would be 10 pages long. It would be no fun for most all participants.

Do I think some of these people are in need of a head check? 😂 come on man…read some of the shit some of them believe. It’s fucking nuts. I really don’t see where some conclusions are drawn from…looney tunes stuff

I was in the nature most the day…watching the weather shift back to high winds tomorrow. Save your minds run mountains (or whatever exercise) enjoy time and space…it’s healthy….reject the programming 😂 invasion of the mind snatchers

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Okay, yeah you're right with most of these political threads it doesn't take much to pick up on where it's going and a lot of what is being said is just nonsensical. I am a bit impressed though that you've picked up on and acknowledged that it's the influence of people like you and the ones who try to argue the points being made by the ons who stick to the thread topic are largely responsible for keeping the threads alive. I say that because there was a point right after the election where all the Pro Trump people stopped posting. They stuck around for a bit but then when they didn't see all the anti Trump people losing it because Trump won, they got bored and stopped posting. After that it was basically just Me, ArmedOldHippy, Moose Eater, GOT_BUD? and a couple of others and sinceh we all have the same viewpoints, the conversation slowed to a crawl real quick. Since the Holidays were now upon us i just stopped posting here because i had better things to spend my time on. Then after the holidays, at some point I peaked in here just out of curiosity and saw things were active again and with most of the same names on both sides. So I got back into it because winter is a pretty slow time for me with me mostly inside with not much to do.

I'm not here trying to learn news alhough every now and then something comes up that I haven't already heard about. I mainly just try to counter misinformation and outright pro Trump propaganda. Not because I'm expecting to change minds of any of the regulars or some notion of my views making a big difference, rather I just hope to inform people who ight visit the thread and maybe get influencd by the misinformation/propaganda. I've lived in the DC area pretty much all my life and picking up on the latest political news isn't really something one has to work at getting. Since so many in th surrounding area ar connected to or more directly effected by ehat goes on then in other parts of the country it gets shown and talked about everywhere, all the time. It's been that way for the whole 65 years i've been around. I first started picking up on it when the Kennedy's were killed and Martin Luther King, then it was Vietnam, then Watergate, and so on and so on.I mean this area lives and breaths the political news/drama all the time. So much so you really have to work at it to not be aware of it. Maybe that's why I started smoking weed? :biggrin:

Anyway here lately you may have noticed i'm not popping up in the conversation daily? Mainly because it gets tedious after a while. Also because it's now getting to the point where I don't need to help keep people informed because things are getting so crazy that soon everyone is going to know about it or at least feel the results of it in some way or another because of all the crazy things Trump and Musk are saying and doing. None of which makes any sense to me. Especially Musk, I mean he was considered the Richest man in the world when all his DOGE nonsense started. Most of his wealth though is tied up in the stocks of his companies and he's pissing so many people off that his stocks are dropping big time and as a result he's lost about half of his wealth (around 200 Billion) and is probably not the richest guy in the world anymore. All of which could have easily been avoided if he never got so directly involved in politics but instead keep his companies running more smoothly then they have been lately.. Hell Tesla has gotten so bad the investors are trying to push hm out of his own company. Trump's no better, he's always talking about how he's the greatest President and saying he's even better then Washington or Lincoln, clearly wanting to be a beloved President but everything he's doing is driving the country into the ground to the point hell be remembered as having started a major recession or perhaps even a depression. When he took office the country was going strong and people were saying things like the US economy was so good it was the envy of the world. If he would just stop with all his nonsense he very easily could have ended up being remembered as almost as good of a President as he thinks he is.
 

Microbeman

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The people illegally entering the country via the southern border can’t afford to fly in of course. Lot of South and Central Americans, Mexicans, and people from African countries. Same as always. Coming in with what they can carry.

Otherwise come on in legally and overstay your visa. Easy way to do it. How my Swiss wife did it in the mid 90’s. Helps if you can speak English and have some funds. Helps if you aren’t brown and obvious. Speaking real.

I’m unaware about the maga bullying except what people say on here. Are they cracking the whip? Pissing some people off? Probably. Politics work that way. Build a wall tear wall down. Same shit. Business as usual. Hopefully people stop wanting to come here to live. Wouldn’t bother me. As it is….people bitch about the USA and how things are run here….but still keep coming. Must be better than a lot of places.

All I know for a fact is people die coming into this country illegally. I found a headless corpse once. The guy’s body was like beef jerky and his head was 50 yards down the trail. Animals you know. Ruled no foul play. But hard to say really. Decomposition.

In the 90’s I worked on a Resource Impact crew on a National Forest right on the Border. We hiked illegal trails made by smugglers and migrants cleaning up after them. Many times had migrants lost and out of food and water…surrendering to us. They were out there wandering for days. Call Border Patrol have them picked up and deported. See you again in a few weeks…or maybe you make it this time. I respected them for their effort. Not an easy route.
The ones who use coyotes often pay much more than an airline ticket. They are duped into believing it's the only way in. I'm surprised the number of 'poorish' people in my neighborhood that I've educated on how relatively easy it is to get a passport and work visa for farm work in the US. Jump on a bus.
 

Cannavore

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liberals are essentially a group of people who are at least 10 years behind leftists in terms of policies and ideas. these people should have zero political power.

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Porky82

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Okay, yeah you're right with most of these political threads it doesn't take much to pick up on where it's going and a lot of what is being said is just nonsensical. I am a bit impressed though that you've picked up on and acknowledged that it's the influence of people like you and the ones who try to argue the points being made by the ons who stick to the thread topic are largely responsible for keeping the threads alive. I say that because there was a point right after the election where all the Pro Trump people stopped posting. They stuck around for a bit but then when they didn't see all the anti Trump people losing it because Trump won, they got bored and stopped posting. After that it was basically just Me, ArmedOldHippy, Moose Eater, GOT_BUD? and a couple of others and sinceh we all have the same viewpoints, the conversation slowed to a crawl real quick. Since the Holidays were now upon us i just stopped posting here because i had better things to spend my time on. Then after the holidays, at some point I peaked in here just out of curiosity and saw things were active again and with most of the same names on both sides. So I got back into it because winter is a pretty slow time for me with me mostly inside with not much to do.

I'm not here trying to learn news alhough every now and then something comes up that I haven't already heard about. I mainly just try to counter misinformation and outright pro Trump propaganda. Not because I'm expecting to change minds of any of the regulars or some notion of my views making a big difference, rather I just hope to inform people who ight visit the thread and maybe get influencd by the misinformation/propaganda. I've lived in the DC area pretty much all my life and picking up on the latest political news isn't really something one has to work at getting. Since so many in th surrounding area ar connected to or more directly effected by ehat goes on then in other parts of the country it gets shown and talked about everywhere, all the time. It's been that way for the whole 65 years i've been around. I first started picking up on it when the Kennedy's were killed and Martin Luther King, then it was Vietnam, then Watergate, and so on and so on.I mean this area lives and breaths the political news/drama all the time. So much so you really have to work at it to not be aware of it. Maybe that's why I started smoking weed? :biggrin:

Anyway here lately you may have noticed i'm not popping up in the conversation daily? Mainly because it gets tedious after a while. Also because it's now getting to the point where I don't need to help keep people informed because things are getting so crazy that soon everyone is going to know about it or at least feel the results of it in some way or another because of all the crazy things Trump and Musk are saying and doing. None of which makes any sense to me. Especially Musk, I mean he was considered the Richest man in the world when all his DOGE nonsense started. Most of his wealth though is tied up in the stocks of his companies and he's pissing so many people off that his stocks are dropping big time and as a result he's lost about half of his wealth (around 200 Billion) and is probably not the richest guy in the world anymore. All of which could have easily been avoided if he never got so directly involved in politics but instead keep his companies running more smoothly then they have been lately.. Hell Tesla has gotten so bad the investors are trying to push hm out of his own company. Trump's no better, he's always talking about how he's the greatest President and saying he's even better then Washington or Lincoln, clearly wanting to be a beloved President but everything he's doing is driving the country into the ground to the point hell be remembered as having started a major recession or perhaps even a depression. When he took office the country was going strong and people were saying things like the US economy was so good it was the envy of the world. If he would just stop with all his nonsense he very easily could have ended up being remembered as almost as good of a President as he thinks he is.
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Rakkasan

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Immigration, DEI, LGBTQ, guns, race, identity politics, abortion are all wedge issues Trump uses to create hate and division. It's easier to control people when they are united against something. Much like Hitler used the jews to unite Germany even though he was 25% jewish. His sheep are just too ignorant to realize it.

When you look at Trump's past he has clearly been a hypocrite on most, if not all of these issues. He only uses them to sway opinion to gain or keep power. He is only interested in power for his self interests and not the country.

I believe in very tight border security. Trump doesn't. How do I know? Because i'm educated on the dozens of times Trump has been involved using illegal labor. Im aware that he only fired his illegal labor when he realized it would become a political liability in 2016.

I'm also aware that Trump has no problem marrying multiple immigrants some who worked illegally in the United States.

It's fake and phony and only used to advance what is currently important to him........keeping power to grift money.

If opening the border up or continuing the Ukraine war meant keeping power and the ability to grift he would flip on those issues in a New York minute.




 

Rakkasan

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Maybe it's a TDS bill sponsored by a GOP cho mo?

"One of the authors of a bill looking to declare “Trump derangement syndrome” (DTS) an official mental illness has been charged with “attempted coercion and enticement of a minor.”

 

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