Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[Hiddenjems]

The dumb people in there are the followers - and yeah someone gullible enough to buy everything the hucksters are saying because Mexicans/blacks/gays is dumb.

You’re aware that a majority of Hispanic men voted for trump, the closer to the border the higher the ratio. Are they dumb?

Trump has many faults, racism isn’t one of them.

 

[armedoldhippy]

Should someone start a thread?

we/ve had several conspiracy threads. they tend to flower briefly & wither away because reality is SO much more horrifying than fiction these days.

 

[G.O. Joe]

You’re aware that a majority of Hispanic men voted for trump, the closer to the border the higher the ratio. Are they dumb?

Trump has many faults, racism isn’t one of them.

It's obvious that I'm saying hucksters use tribal sentiment as their foundation and use it as a vehicle for peddling unrelated dumbshit.

Bad Orange Man who singles out black South Africa totally isn't racist. If not, he's sure happy with using it as a tool.

 

[Hiddenjems]

It's obvious that I'm saying hucksters use tribal sentiment as their foundation and use it as a vehicle for peddling unrelated dumbshit.

Bad Orange Man who singles out black South Africa totally isn't racist. If not, he's sure happy with using it as a tool.

I think the amount of openly racist people supporting trump leads people to believe he’s racist. He’s mostly a pragmatist, with what you can do for him being the lens he sees people through.

The amount of white supremacists in America is at an all time low, they’re just very vocal about it. 40 years ago the had kkk and neo Nazi marches with thousands of people. The marches were supported by the aclu. It was a whole other world….

 

[Cannavore]

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Bad Orange Man who singles out black South Africa totally isn't racist. If not, he's sure happy with using it as a tool.

If he singled it out, it undermines your point that he's racist. Logical thinking. He singled it out for an actual reason (other than being racist).

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

I heard a rumor that Patriot Front disbanded the day Kash Patel became FBI Director. Has anyone "fact checked" this?

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

progressive? he's literally the opposite of progressive, we are regressing... who in their right mind thinks trump is an even slightly, vaguely, or remotely progressive president?

can we begin applying that critical analysis?

look at the magnum opus of his first term, the 2018 gop tax bill... it's one big fat santa sack of gifts straight to the robber barons;

also, can you even be a progressive centrist? that's kinda like being super- midwit, isn't it?

i'll give you liberal i guess in the vague sense of liberalism being capitalistic, i prefer "neoliberal", personally but i'm willing to see your counter argument

Its a lot to unpack right now. I'll try to address this soon as its an important point to understand.

 

[Cannavore]

 

[HempKat]

I don’t doubt it but you know who’s hate speech, inciting violence

I said most folks, thats the vast majority ,there was a crazy and under reported amount of folks there

The truth of it is neither you or I know for sure how many people who participated in J6 did or didn't know about QAnon. Given that there were vendors at most of the rallies who sold Q related gear and you could often spot signs among the crowds that referenced Q, I am inclined to believe it was more people then you think. I get it though, if you're not one to buy into that sort of thing and you've heard some of the crazy stories, it would be normal to want to believe it was just a few crazies.

 

[HempKat]

The big difference being that Antifa openly promoted themselves as a radical left wing group by causing widespread chaos and destruction to get attention for a cause they probably couldn't care less about. Qanon appears to be a small small group of people that believe in alternative biblical sources. They haven't burnt down neighborhoods or thrown molotov cocktails at cops faces, atleast not from the footage ive seen. Apples and oranges hemp. Its why i always tell people that hipsters are the true invasive species.
Deport those fuckers and leave the immigrants here i say

See you're representing ANTIFA after they were made the boogieman of the day. The very first few ANTIFS related protests had nothing to do with other causes, they would protest on there own cause which was an ANTI FAcicism position, hence the name ANTIFA back then the protest were mostly peaceful but usually an opposing more conservative force would show up and things would escalate into a fight. Then eventually the ANTIFA people got tired of being beat up and started fighting back. By the time BLM protests started there were reports of ANTIFA being responsible for starting fires and looting stores. Just like J6 people tried claiming that it was FBI plants that instigated the violence, ANTIFA people were claiming that it was other not of their group starting the violence. I'm not sure how true this was but I do remember seeing one video of some guy dressed in the black outfits ANTIFA were starting to be known for, setting up piles of hand sized rocks or bricks, in front of stores, perfect for smashing windows. Then he was spotted by people that definitely were ANTIFA who jumped him and turned him over to police. I don't really know much about ANTIFA other then what was reported in the news. I'm sure on FOX and other right wing outlets they were made out to be the scum of the earth while other more left wing outlets portrayed them very differently. So unless you or I were once members of the group we can't really know for sure what they were responsible for or what they were about. I'd be wlling to admit that just like the J6 crowd, ANTIFA had some among their group who were trouble makers with their own agendas. You say that some thru molotov cocktails at cops faces which if true is horrific and those people should have been arrested and tired and jailed for attempted murder. So to should all the J6 people who best cops with clubs, bats, flag poles, metal pipes, bike racks and everything else that was used to assault the capital police. In fact many were but unfortunately Trump pardoned them as soon as he could. The thing that always puzzled me though is Trump had a brief window from Jan 7th thru Jan 20th that he could have given that crowd a blanket pardon but at that point in time he chose not to.

 

[HempKat]

Yes…. Please explain or post what is was.

You know full well what it was, if you don't it's not my job to educate you. All you need to know is that it was enough for the jury to find Trump guilty.

 

[Hiddenjems]

He’s right though. Hitler, Stalin, and mao killed very few people with their own hands. State employees killed millions.

Evil lies in the heart of every man, just waiting for the right signal to set it into action.

 

[HempKat]

Incorrect. Trumps law would require your parents be citizens and that you be born here.

Ex post facto laws are banned in the constitution.

Then what would be the point in Trump changing birthright citizenship (also in the constitution)? Since the constitution made it clear ANYONE born in the US automatically became US citizens (that's what birth right means). Then to use that to deport children born here of illegals would be attempting to make it an x post facto law. When it was put into the constitution there wasn't a wide spread issue with illegal immigration so what would be the motive other then to not require peope who were born here to have to go thru the same citizenship application process that those who immigrated here had to go thru? That's why people born here are given a social security number at birth and are never required to pass a test to become citizens. If your goal is to make it apply to everyone born here from at least one illegal immigrant then it must be made to apply to everyone born here who hadn't applied for citizenship. I mean it's kind of pointless arguing about it right now though because so far every judge it has gone before has ruled it unconstitutional. If somehow Trump does manage to get the Supreme court to rule in his favor I hope someone tests the limits of it because technically as soon as it became law Trump would no longer be a citizen and therefore couldn't be president.

 

[HempKat]

Get fucking real. I thought we were talking about Harris….but since they are interchangeable I suppose we are. That’s where it is.

Are you kidding? Nobody has been talking about Harris since early last November. No wait I take that back there are one or two people who've tried to make the case that Trump stole the election from her but not many have been paying attention to them.

 

[Cannavore]

He’s right though.

No he isn't

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

He’s right though. Hitler, Stalin, and mao killed very few people with their own hands. State employees killed millions.

Evil lies in the heart of every man, just waiting for the right signal to set it into action.

Well said

 

[HempKat]

The best election in the history of the fake libertarians was in 2016 with gary johnson taking 3.3% of the vote lmfao just like evangelicals with the GOP or the progressives in the DNC, you are a voting block that will always vote for one of the two parties in the end.

DOGE is essentially what libertarians want. Seems to be going well with the people lmfao. Seems to be going well in Argentina or wherever libertarian president Milei is from too.

If only he didn't blow that Aleppo question, he might have doubled his numbers.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

 

[HempKat]

He’s right though. Hitler, Stalin, and mao killed very few people with their own hands. State employees killed millions.

Evil lies in the heart of every man, just waiting for the right signal to set it into action.

Yeah well that's how it tends to play out when the Dear Leader will have you killed if you don't follow his orders.